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Is the President YOUR President?

Is the President YOUR President?


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Is the President YOUR President?

I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

Have you ever had such sentiments?
 
Oh, oh. :bolt
 
Yup. I don't like what he does and frankly most of the time listening to him drives up my blood pressure, but he is my President. He's the leader of the country. You are absolutely correct - to say that someone from the other party is "not your President" is to elevate your partisan affiliation over your national affiliation. If that is your order of precedence, then that means you would be willing to harm the country in order to help your party, and I cordially invite you to take a swim to some other nation (Cuba, comes to mind) where Party is held in esteem more in line with your value system.


BUU-uuut, that doesn't mean I will "always support him", so I can't vote that in the poll :).
 
Is the President YOUR President?

I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

Have you ever had such sentiments?

Right or wrong, my President. But that doesn't mean I have to support everything (s)he*) does.

*)just in case.
 
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to say that someone from the other party is "not your President" is to elevate your partisan affiliation over your national affiliation. If that is your order of precedence, then that means you would be willing to harm the country in order to help your party

VERY key phrase here. Something I have said many times at DP. Let's see how many people demonstrate that they prefer party over country.
 
VERY key phrase here. Something I have said many times at DP. Let's see how many people demonstrate that they prefer party over country.
Maybe I should have waited until later? :p
 
Maybe I should have waited until later? :p

Nah. People will still show up and make silly excuses over why supporting one's party over one's country really isn't supporting one's party over country. Wouldn't matter when you posted what you did.
 
Nah. People will still show up and make silly excuses over why supporting one's party over one's country really isn't supporting one's party over country. Wouldn't matter when you posted what you did.

Then the power of shame really is dead.


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Fortunately, we have a series of checks and balances when the POTUS steps out of line and becomes someone elses president.

I didn't vote for the MoFo so I don't see him as 'my' president. Nor do I see the bluer parts of this land being 'my' country.

Plus I'm assured the 'other' side feels the same way.

Sorry but 'we' are currently a divided land.
 
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I think it's just factually inaccurate to say that X President isn't "my" President if your a citizen so it doesn't make much sense to say it. Just like Dick Durbin and Mark Kirk are my senators, Obama is my president.

I do not think, however, that saying, for example, "Barack Obama is not my president," is necessarily an example of putting "ideology over country." The problem is that you're equating an elected official with the country when, in fact, the country is much more than any elected official including the President. Even further, if someone who you believed was truly harming the country is President, then rejecting them as your President may be putting your country first. This is why we have the impeachment process.

Summary: Don't equate the President with the country. They are two separate entities. Moreover, rejecting a President may be better for the country than doing otherwise if that President causes harm to the country.
 
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Is the President YOUR President?

I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!"
Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty,
and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

Have you ever had such sentiments?




Anyone who refuses to accept the fact that the President of the USA is the President of the USA has a problem that will not be solved on this website.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is out of touch with reality.
 
Fortunately, we have a series of checks and balances when the POTUS steps out of line and becomes someone elses president.

I didn't vote for the MoFo so I don't see him as 'my' president. Nor do I see the bluer parts of this land being 'my' country.

Plus I'm assured the 'other' side feels the same way.

Sorry but 'we' are currently a divided land.




President Obama will be the President of the USA until another Democrat takes his place.

Anyone who's not happy in the USA will always find that the entrances to the exits are wide open.

Deal with it.
 
President Obama will be the President of the USA until another Democrat takes his place.

Anyone who's not happy in the USA will always find that the entrances to the exits are wide open.

Deal with it.

Hey, isn't that what the left threatened to do after Bush II was elected? Leave?

FWIW, I'll stay right here in 'my' country of Texas.
 
Is the President YOUR President?

I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

Have you ever had such sentiments?

Obama and I do not share any priority or goal, so I can't say Obama represents me in any way, and thus is not "my president".
 
l never believe that politicians are our leaders.
 
Is the President YOUR President?

I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

Have you ever had such sentiments?

The job of the (our current or any) president is to enforce current law (run the country) and to propose/support law/policy changes that will improve it. Where Obama falls far short is in his tendency to ignore enforcement of any current laws that he dislikes. For example he dislikes current immigration law so he simply refuses to deport "dreamy" criminal (undocumented?) aliens. He likes allowing blue states to enact stricter gun control laws, relax or ignore drug/immigration laws yet will jump on red states that want to help enforce immigration law or enact voter ID laws.
 
Is the President YOUR President?

I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

Have you ever had such sentiments?
President Obama is the President, He occupies the Office.
I do not think he has demonstrated that he represents all Americans.
I will not be sad to see him leave in 38 months (January 2017).
 
He is the President of my country, so yes, but the option says that "Yes, I always support" him, which I do not. If something is an internal political issue, the blanket statement is unacceptable.
 
President Obama will be the President of the USA until another Democrat takes his place.

Anyone who's not happy in the USA will always find that the entrances to the exits are wide open.

Deal with it.

I don't think the exits are wide open, but clearly the entrances are a bit porous.
 
In so much as I don't see the need for leaders, whoever holds the office is "my President". But it sounds like someone saying that Survivor is "my show".

What are we? a pack of dogs?
 
Is the President YOUR President?

I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

Have you ever had such sentiments?

If he's the President of the United States he's "my President". He may not be the President I voted for, and it doesn't mean I support every action he takes, but not agreeing with him or not voting for him doesn't magically change the fact that he's the President of my country and as such my President.
 
President Obama will be the President of the USA until another Democrat takes his place.

Anyone who's not happy in the USA will always find that the entrances to the exits are wide open.

Deal with it.

So just to clarify...are you attempting to act as if you're somehow above the frey, while slyly suggesting that if a Republican wins the Presidency they won't really be President?

Or are you just ignorantly prognosticating 3 years out from the electioni that the Democrats will simply automatically win, and put it there for no other reason other than to thumb your nose at the other side while trying to act like you're being above the hyper partisan frey?
 
Is the President YOUR President?

I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

Have you ever had such sentiments?

He's my president insofar that he represents the country I live in. But I hesitate to call him "my president". He represents a lot of things I'm against.
 
Is the President YOUR President?

I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

Have you ever had such sentiments?

Not really. President is President - the fragrant durian fruit on the top of our democratic system's bush.

I probably could get a second, Polish citizenship and then have a choice, who do I consider "my President", really: Obama or Komorowski. (I like Komorowski better).

But as things stand now, Obama is my president, even though I voted for Gary Johnson.
 
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