• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Obama, the grinch that stole Christmas?

Will obama care hurt Christmas sales

  • Yes, obamacare will hurt Christmas sales

    Votes: 7 46.7%

  • Obamacare will have no effect on Christmas sales

    Votes: 8 53.3%

  • Obamacare will boost Christmas sales

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    15
sawyerloggingon

sawyerloggingon

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
May 6, 2011
Messages
14,697
Reaction score
5,704
Location
Where they have FOX on in bars and restaurants
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
Many Americans are finding out that their insurance rates are going up. Unlike government most of us live on a budget and things like insurance and Christmas are in that budget. Seems to me that when a family learns that they will have to come up with a couple thousand dollars more next year for insurance they may very well take that out of their discretionary spending fund and that would be Christmas. Most retailers depend on the Christmas shopping season to get them into the black and if sales this year reflect the cost of obamacare a lot of them will be hurt, some fatally. A local company where I live is a good example. They have been suffering all through this Obama economy and just laid off 500 people. Rumor has it if they have a bad Christmas they will close their doors.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Many Americans are finding out that their insurance rates are going up. Unlike government most of us live on a budget and things like insurance and Christmas are in that budget. Seems to me that when a family learns that they will have to come up with a couple thousand dollars more next year for insurance they may very well take that out of their discretionary spending fund and that would be Christmas. Most retailers depend on the Christmas shopping season to get them into the black and if sales this year reflect the cost of obamacare a lot of them will be hurt, some fatally. A local company where I live is a good example. They have been suffering all through this Obama economy and just laid off 500 people. Rumor has it if they have a bad Christmas they will close their doors.
Click to expand...


What company was that and how much does their CEO make? Just wondering at what level are they suffering so badly.

As for Christmas shopping the retailers shouldn't depend so much on one holiday and if you have too buy JR a football instead of a new tablet, forgive me for not crying my heart out for you. Christmas should not be so much about gifts and shopping as it should be as for family and friends.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Many Americans are finding out that their insurance rates are going up. Unlike government most of us live on a budget and things like insurance and Christmas are in that budget. Seems to me that when a family learns that they will have to come up with a couple thousand dollars more next year for insurance they may very well take that out of their discretionary spending fund and that would be Christmas. Most retailers depend on the Christmas shopping season to get them into the black and if sales this year reflect the cost of obamacare a lot of them will be hurt, some fatally. A local company where I live is a good example. They have been suffering all through this Obama economy and just laid off 500 people. Rumor has it if they have a bad Christmas they will close their doors.
Click to expand...

If it were only Xmas, it would hardly matter. But he has risked a depression.
 
Potential impact after individual mandate deadline.
 
americanwoman said:
What company was that and how much does their CEO make? Just wondering at what level are they suffering so badly.

As for Christmas shopping the retailers shouldn't depend so much on one holiday and if you have too buy JR a football instead of a new tablet, forgive me for not crying my heart out for you. Christmas should not be so much about gifts and shopping as it should be as for family and friends.
Click to expand...

I agree with you in theory but facts are facts and the fact is retailers depend on Christmas to put them in the black. If obamacare ruins Christmas sales it will ruin many retailers. The comp I am referring to in the OP is Coldwater Creek, they are a catalog company that sells women's clothes.

http://www.coldwatercreek.com/defau...dwater creek&gclid=CK3IoIfK1boCFex7QgodPjcA1g
 
sawyerloggingon said:
People unlike government plan ahead, they budget for the coming year.
Click to expand...

Like they do for Christmas shopping? Come on. An incredible amount procrastinate. On top of that, enough Americans have little clue whether the new marketplace will be a benefit to them, or a potential harm.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Many Americans are finding out that their insurance rates are going up. Unlike government most of us live on a budget and things like insurance and Christmas are in that budget. Seems to me that when a family learns that they will have to come up with a couple thousand dollars more next year for insurance they may very well take that out of their discretionary spending fund and that would be Christmas. Most retailers depend on the Christmas shopping season to get them into the black and if sales this year reflect the cost of obamacare a lot of them will be hurt, some fatally. A local company where I live is a good example. They have been suffering all through this Obama economy and just laid off 500 people. Rumor has it if they have a bad Christmas they will close their doors.
Click to expand...

A lot of businesses rely on Christmas sales. I know that Obamacare is an easy excuse, but this business was probably one bad Christmas away from closing anyway.
 
Fiddytree said:
Like they do for Christmas shopping? Come on. An incredible amount procrastinate. On top of that, enough Americans have little clue whether the new marketplace will be a benefit to them, or a potential harm.
Click to expand...

It has been in the news constantly and I think people that will pay more for obamacare see the writing on the wall. That will be reflected in Christmas sales.
 
rocket88 said:
So even without Obamacare, it wasn't doing so well anyway? It seems like a weak excuse to blame Obamacare for that.
Click to expand...

All women's clothing retailers have had horrible sales through out the recent recession, Cold Water is one of many at deaths door and this obamacare Christmas may well be the last nail in the coffin.
 
:lol: obama

animal-goat-satan_881.jpg
 
sawyerloggingon said:
All women's clothing retailers have had horrible sales through out the recent recession, Cold Water is one of many at deaths door and this obamacare Christmas may well be the last nail in the coffin.
Click to expand...

It may be, but it takes more than one nail.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
It has been in the news constantly and I think people that will pay more for obamacare see the writing on the wall. That will be reflected in Christmas sales.
Click to expand...

The economy has been softening all year. If sales are down, which I seriously doubt they will be from recent years, then it is more that than obamacare. I further doubt that the ACA will turn any successful business into a bankrupt business. Politics is a convenient excuse for failed business management. Americans are all about "It ain't my fault".
 
I think as a nation we should end "christmas shopping" for a year or two. Show that we can control the economy.
 
CRUE CAB said:
I think as a nation we should end "christmas shopping" for a year or two. Show that we can control the economy.
Click to expand...

What the hell would that accomplish other than a bad note for the year.
 
Fisher said:
The economy has been softening all year. If sales are down, which I seriously doubt they will be from recent years, then it is more that than obamacare. I further doubt that the ACA will turn any successful business into a bankrupt business. Politics is a convenient excuse for failed business management. Americans are all about "It ain't my fault".
Click to expand...

It's been one thing after another since Obama took over and now this obamacare Christmas will be the death blow for many retailers.
 
Obamacare sank my battleship.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
In case you haven't noticed the economy has sucked since Obama became pres and women's apparel has been one of the hardest hit.
Click to expand...

Uh, no, the economy has sucked since 2007.
 
People will always find a way to blow a wad of money on christmas. ACA has absolutely no affect on it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom