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Social policy is center left and fiscal policy is center right.
 
Fisher said:
Social policy is center left and fiscal policy is center right.
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Ten years ago I would've agreed with you, but we're right around center for economic policy now. We're shifting dangerously toward center-left.
 
Gipper said:
Ten years ago I would've agreed with you, but we're right around center for economic policy now. We're shifting dangerously toward center-left.
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No we are not. If you look at Obamacare for instance, it does not do what it was supposed to do. It will be very rightish in its effect.
 
Fisher said:
No we are not. If you look at Obamacare for instance, it does not do what it was supposed to do. It will be very rightish in its effect.
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It really depends on what your compass looks like. Fascism isn't right-wing on my compass.
 
Gipper said:
It really depends on what your compass looks like. Fascism isn't right-wing on my compass.
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Massive corporate subsidies are.
 
Fisher said:
Social policy is center left and fiscal policy is center right.
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I wish you were right, for the sake of your country and for the economies of the world that are affected by the American economy. I believe that people with money, people who have a personal stake in the health of your country, are fiscally center right, but far too many people in America are becoming dependents of the nation and as the scales tip in that direction more and more people will think more about their personal survival than the survival of the country. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Fisher said:
Massive corporate subsidies are.
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It's not coming down to subsidies. It's going to come down to socialized medicine in the guise of "insurance".

Subsidies would be if private sector policies were considered "legal" under the new doctrine. We're seeing that this won't be the case.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I wish you were right, for the sake of your country and for the economies of the world that are affected by the American economy. I believe that people with money, people who have a personal stake in the health of your country, are fiscally center right, but far too many people in America are becoming dependents of the nation and as the scales tip in that direction more and more people will think more about their personal survival than the survival of the country. I hope I'm wrong.
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America has a bronze age economy in an iron age world. Our economic prowress simply won't survive. It is not a matter of if but when.
 
Fisher said:
Massive corporate subsidies are.
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Not always. There is a lot of protectionism, price fixing through subsidies, etc that is sponsored by the labor faction of the left. Farm Subsidies were started by the left for example. Of course, that was before the liberals went on a anti-religion binge and drove most of the rural/southern communities from the Dems over to the Reps.
 
Fisher said:
America has a bronze age economy in an iron age world. Our economic prowress simply won't survive. It is not a matter of if but when.
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Usually it can vary with one administration making a correction in the country's politics and economics but if Obamacare makes it all the way through than a turnaround may prove impossible. There is no Ronald Reagan on the horizon yet and, although the attack on any Republican candidates and their families will be merciless, sensible people actually have to get out and vote in the next election to help maintain the future of the country.
 
Gipper said:
It's not coming down to subsidies. It's going to come down to socialized medicine in the guise of "insurance".

Subsidies would be if private sector policies were considered "legal" under the new doctrine. We're seeing that this won't be the case.
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During the Cold War it was argued that although those who were forced to live under communism had to give up a few freedoms at least they were secure under government programs. Ben Franklin claimed that "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both". That lesson has to be repeated regularly over the centuries and still people don't get it.

Call it an "Irony Curtain" that has crossed over the land.
 
Hm. In practice or in discussion?

In practice, it is center-ish. Some issues very left, some issues very right, but increasingly moving right, because the discussion is extremely right.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Hm. In practice or in discussion?

In practice, it is center-ish. Some issues very left, some issues very right, but increasingly moving right, because the discussion is extremely right.
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The terms 'left' and 'right' are handy sometimes but not to define a country with multiple issues happening at the same time, and the definitions varying from city to city and state to state.
 
I don't quite understand the question. "Right" or "left" of what? Some universal standard of "center" made of platinum and kept under guard at the International Bureau of Weights and Measures in Paris?
 
Fisher said:
Massive corporate subsidies are.
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Correct.

And that's what's been going on in the USA for quite a while.

Bailing out firms that are 'too big too fail' was just another subsidy that every taxpayer, rich or poor, will eventually pay for.
 
Fisher said:
America has a bronze age economy in an iron age world. Our economic prowress simply won't survive. It is not a matter of if but when
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Maybe, maybe not. We'll have to wait and see.

Right now the USA still leads the world in many areas.
 
shrubnose said:
Correct.

And that's what's been going on in the USA for quite a while.

Bailing out firms that are 'too big too fail' was just another subsidy that every taxpayer, rich or poor, will eventually pay for.
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That "too big to fail" theory applies , more than anything, to the United States. Many seem to feel they can give out free things to half the country, maintain a strong military, give everyone cheaper and better health care and maintain a growing debt of $17,000.000.000.000. This is so obscenely foolish that I cannot see any country getting out of this mess, especially with voters whose thoughts don't go beyond food stamps and Obamaphones.
 
shrubnose said:
Maybe, maybe not. We'll have to wait and see.

Right now the USA still leads the world in many areas.
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You won't have to wait too long unless Americans get their act together and elect someone based on experience and honesty rather than on a 19th century failed ideology.. Those areas of the world it still leads are becoming fewer with jobs, and power, mostly growing in the bureaucracies. Try getting rid of them!
 
pbrauer said:
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I think Reagan brought it to the center right, Bush the first turn it back to center left, Clinton went back to the center while Bush the second and Obama went left with it with no center. My opinion.
 
We're 20 years behind most of Europe and Canada socially, so center-right far as that goes. Economics, well, income inequality has soared with little to no safety net, so i have to go with far right.
 
DVSentinel said:
You forgot FUBAR!
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The public demands more and better services. They get them. The public demands lower taxes. They get them. FU maybe but not FUBAR. It is very easy to recognize what is going on.

Why would you write your congressman to demand higher taxes? You can just pay more voluntarily.
Why would you write your congressman to demand less services? All you have to do is decline to receive those services.

Lots of people find reason to write their congressman to lower their tax bill or to receive some type of government service. Consistent deficits and a growing national debt is the cost of democracy. It looks weird but it is superior to tyranny. A well intentioned tyrant could wipe out the national debt with 10-20 years. With democracy things will continue to go this way. It's FU but not FUBAR.
 
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