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Will Hillary run for president in 2016? [W:114]

Will Hillary run for president in 2016

  • Yes she and Bill can save this country,

    Votes: 12 70.6%

  • No she would destroy this country.

    Votes: 5 29.4%
  • Total voters
    17
Will Hillary run for president in 2016
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The answer is yes...
... and she will win quite handily because of concessions and promises that Christie will need to make to the GOP base to win the nomination.:mrgreen:
 
So how do you know Clinton and Christie will get the nom from their respective parties?
 
Phil_Osophy said:
So how do you know Clinton and Christie will get the nom from their respective parties?
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Can't speak for Christie, but as Clinton goes are there any other shining stars in the Democratic Party that I'm not aware of?
 
Biden.... Lol.... "Buy a shotgun, buy a shotgun, buy a shotgun"....

*man buys shotgun, attacks the navy yard.
"Thanks, Biden. You were right. All I needed was a shotgun"
 
If Christie runs, it will be another McCain/Romney type thing. It's almost like the republicans threw the election away intentionally. McCain has some type of mental disorder, and Romney is the white Obama....
 
Phil_Osophy said:
If Christie runs, it will be another McCain/Romney type thing. It's almost like the republicans threw the election away intentionally. McCain has some type of mental disorder, and Romney is the white Obama....
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Who would you like to see run for the GOP?
 
The fact of the matter is that the middle (moderate ) third of the electorate ultimately elect the president.
McCain and Romney were the closest thing the GOP had to a moderate at the time and Christie will be the only chance they will have in 2016.
That being said Chris will have a hard time overcoming the pressure to talk crazy in the lead-up to the GOP convention. His nomination is not guarenteed.
He will say some things that will insure his nomination and simultaneously negate any real chance he may have had in the general.
The American people will not accept a right wing crazy extremist and the GOP will not accept anything but a right wing crazy extremest.
If Christie stays sane in the primaries the GOP may nominate something like a Paul or a Cruz. If that's the case Hillary could phone it in and win in a landslide.
 
I would like to see a libertarian in office.
 
Well, I was going to vote yes, but what asinine options.
 
Moderator's Warning:
The personal crap and off-topic stuff stops now or violations will be issued.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I was actually OK with NAFTA because it would help our immediate neighbor and I had hoped it would reduce or stop illegal immigration. Then the other trade agreements followed, and undercut the purpose of NAFTA.

I agree, republicans are at fault too. In the same token, those wanting to praise Cli9nton should remember that it takes both congress and a president to make these bills become law.
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Exactly, One cannot strictly blame or praise the president without taking congress into consideration. Especially when congress is of one party and the president of another.
 
Buck Ewer said:
I'm sure you would ... and I would like to see a socialist...

... but realistically, who do you think has a better chance than Christie in the GOP?
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As of today, no one. All one has to do is take a good look at the electoral map, all the solid/safe and likely states that are on the Democratic side of the ledger. It will take an ideal candidate to pull off a win for the GOP and even Christie might not manage it. But a lot can change between now and then.
 
Perotista said:
Whether she does or doesn't, who ever wins the Democratic nomination will be the odds on favorite to win in the general. Mainly due to the huge advantage Democrats now hold in the Electoral College Map.
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Mornin Pero. :2wave: Not with 12 Democratic Senators coming out and saying the Obamacare Mandate should be delayed now.....while adding that to the issue of Obamacare. 2014 it will impact. 2015 is when the Insurers will be able to adjust costs. More of the middle class and the poor will suffer do to all the Democrats taxing.

As raising property taxes and having the rich pay more isn't going to make up for all the other taxes that will affect all consumers. Affecting the poor an middle class daily life. The loss of full time work, and people not investing to cover themselves. Will all come together in 2016.

That being said.....Clinton has no major accomplishments as a SOS. Frequent Flyer miles and spending don't make for a good resume there. Moreover she was a token Senator in NY and was never even part of that states politics. Other than touting first lady kudos and of course her.....I misspoke moments. There just really isn't anything there. She cannot bring consensus and the country will be fed up with the partisan divide she will continue.

All she has is.....I am Woman, hear me Roar. Which might be enough to win with the media circus help in exploiting those Woman issues. Playing on the first woman President and how Coooool that would be. Kinda like they did with Obama. Cmon lets give her a try and all that BS.

She did have Schumer her puppet come out endorsing her to run yesterday. Soro's sent 25k to an action pac for her with the promise of more to come if she does run. Course then yesterday Romney pretty much endorsed Christie for the party.

One thing is for certain.....she wouldn't want to Debate Christie as he would tear her up. Plus she can't even use that BS about Christie ever being extreme on any issue.

Daniels is sitting at Purdue.....Pence could be a possibility. Others are talking about Jindal and what he has to say and has been saying at C-Pak and in Iowa. Puts him in confrontation with the Tea partiers and Cruz as well as Rand Paul. If not head of the ticket.....one to run with.
 
MMC said:
Mornin Pero. :2wave: Not with 12 Democratic Senators coming out and saying the Obamacare Mandate should be delayed now.....while adding that to the issue of Obamacare. 2014 it will impact. 2015 is when the Insurers will be able to adjust costs. More of the middle class and the poor will suffer do to all the Democrats taxing.

As raising property taxes and having the rich pay more isn't going to make up for all the other taxes that will affect all consumers. Affecting the poor an middle class daily life. The loss of full time work, and people not investing to cover themselves. Will all come together in 2016.

That being said.....Clinton has no major accomplishments as a SOS. Frequent Flyer miles and spending don't make for a good resume there. Moreover she was a token Senator in NY and was never even part of that states politics. Other than touting first lady kudos and of course her.....I misspoke moments. There just really isn't anything there. She cannot bring consensus and the country will be fed up with the partisan divide she will continue.

All she has is.....I am Woman, hear me Roar. Which might be enough to win with the media circus help in exploiting those Woman issues. Playing on the first woman President and how Coooool that would be. Kinda like they did with Obama. Cmon lets give her a try and all that BS.

She did have Schumer her puppet come out endorsing her to run yesterday. Soro's sent 25k to an action pac for her with the promise of more to come if she does run. Course then yesterday Romney pretty much endorsed Christie for the party.

One thing is for certain.....she wouldn't want to Debate Christie as he would tear her up. Plus she can't even use that BS about Christie ever being extreme on any issue.

Daniels is sitting at Purdue.....Pence could be a possibility. Others are talking about Jindal and what he has to say and has been saying at C-Pak and in Iowa. Puts him in confrontation with the Tea partiers and Cruz as well as Rand Paul. If not head of the ticket.....one to run with.
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I hear you, but what has happen is a switch in fortune. Back in the 80's and 90's the electoral favored the Republicans. But the Democrats were able to win in 92 by nominating two southerners to break up what what some pundits said was a presidential lock. Throw in the fact Bush the first broke his no new taxes pledge and then ran a campaign that seemed like he didn't care if he won or lost, that is until the last two weeks, you had a Democratic victory against what look like long odds. In the 2000's that map changed to be relitive even and now it favors the Democrats. Look at this way, I do not think any Republican will win CA, OR, WA or HI in the west. 78 EV. How about the northeast? Leave Christie out of it and put Paul or Cruz or just mr. Republican no name. Maryland, New York, up. Outside of NH what do you think the odds are of a Republican without the name of Christie taking any northeastern states? Not much, add those to the mix along with D.C. that brings the total of what I call safe/likely states up to 166 EV. Now throw in IL, MI, WI, MN, and IA, all blue states, that 228 EV of the 270 to win. I left PA out, although I consider PA would probably go Democratic. Right now CO and NM are pretty solid blue states that is 242 EV.

Give the south and the plain states to the GOP along with Indiana, leave out NC, VA, OH, FL, and NV as swing states along with PA and NH, the GOP total is 191. Personally I think PA would go Democratic against a Cruz or Paul with the possible exception of Christie, Daniels and maybe Pence. VA has been trending into a pretty reliable blue state. So FL, OH, and NC are must wins for any GOP nominee and that would bring him up to 253, just 17 shy. So PA may hold the key.

Lots of interesting scenarios that can be played out, but Cruz and Paul I do not think could carry most of the must win states. Just an opinion and it is too far out to really know. Just some contemplation s on my part.
 
Perotista said:
I hear you, but what has happen is a switch in fortune. Back in the 80's and 90's the electoral favored the Republicans. But the Democrats were able to win in 92 by nominating two southerners to break up what what some pundits said was a presidential lock. Throw in the fact Bush the first broke his no new taxes pledge and then ran a campaign that seemed like he didn't care if he won or lost, that is until the last two weeks, you had a Democratic victory against what look like long odds. In the 2000's that map changed to be relitive even and now it favors the Democrats. Look at this way, I do not think any Republican will win CA, OR, WA or HI in the west. 78 EV. How about the northeast? Leave Christie out of it and put Paul or Cruz or just mr. Republican no name. Maryland, New York, up. Outside of NH what do you think the odds are of a Republican without the name of Christie taking any northeastern states? Not much, add those to the mix along with D.C. that brings the total of what I call safe/likely states up to 166 EV. Now throw in IL, MI, WI, MN, and IA, all blue states, that 228 EV of the 270 to win. I left PA out, although I consider PA would probably go Democratic. Right now CO and NM are pretty solid blue states that is 242 EV.

Give the south and the plain states to the GOP along with Indiana, leave out NC, VA, OH, FL, and NV as swing states along with PA and NH, the GOP total is 191. Personally I think PA would go Democratic against a Cruz or Paul with the possible exception of Christie, Daniels and maybe Pence. VA has been trending into a pretty reliable blue state. So FL, OH, and NC are must wins for any GOP nominee and that would bring him up to 253, just 17 shy. So PA may hold the key.

Lots of interesting scenarios that can be played out, but Cruz and Paul I do not think could carry most of the must win states. Just an opinion and it is too far out to really know. Just some contemplation s on my part.
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Well you are Right with Virginia.....the Dems have invested heavy there. Hence the Top 5 seats all being Democratic. So when they said it was a purple state it was actually turning blue. Despite domestic issues of and for the state.

Also lets not forget anymore mishaps with Obama with the rest of his term and all those Democrats that sided with him at the time for whatever reason. All in that party takes that hit running into these next elections. Which any more problems with Obamacare just will be remembered for added emphasis.
 
MMC said:
Well you are Right with Virginia.....the Dems have invested heavy there. Hence the Top 5 seats all being Democratic. So when they said it was a purple state it was actually turning blue. Despite domestic issues of and for the state.

Also lets not forget anymore mishaps with Obama with the rest of his term and all those Democrats that sided with him at the time for whatever reason. All in that party takes that hit running into these next elections. Which any more problems with Obamacare just will be remembered for added emphasis.
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Sure enough. This is what I call the mood of the country today. Today it would be near impossible for a Republican to win in 2016. But heck, we're two years off and no one know what lies ahead, what events or issues that could change the entire political election scene.
 
God forbid if Hilary ever were elected we would have a first lady who is "Slick Willie" He could bring back Monica to the WH and get BJs in the oval office.
 
Perotista said:
Sure enough. This is what I call the mood of the country today. Today it would be near impossible for a Republican to win in 2016. But heck, we're two years off and no one know what lies ahead, what events or issues that could change the entire political election scene.
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If Hillary were elected its because she would carry a huge woman vote who feel sorry for her.
 
Buck Ewer said:
I'm sure you would ... and I would like to see a socialist...

... but realistically, who do you think has a better chance than Christie in the GOP?
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You already have a socialist . :confused:
 
Navy Pride said:
If Hillary were elected its because she would carry a huge woman vote who feel sorry for her.
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I am sure she would carry a huge women's vote, but it wouldn't be because they feel sorry for her. Women on the whole tend to vote Democratic and men Republican. They are built different and think different.
 
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