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When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?

  • As soon as possible. There are many people that shouldn't be having kids.

    Votes: 7 63.6%

  • Within 50 years. We're not quite ready but we are almost there.

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • 51-200 years. Some people are so stupid that they think aborition is wrong.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 201-1000 years. This is the most advanced dream of abortionist. It takes lots of time.

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Total voters
    11
  • Poll closed .
Dittohead not! said:
Mandatory abortion and making abortion illegal are two sides of the same coin. Both make the decision one of government, and not of the individual.
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The Mark said:
The problem with this is, someone has to decide who they are.

And that is why we can never have such a law.
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JJB3333 said:
I'm sorry but this is just wrong. you want us to implement a law that says i can murder your child because it think you'll be a bad parent. Who are you to decide who lives and who dies. you got kids? how bout nephews and nieces? how would you feel if some old rich guy whos never met you decided that it was OK to butcher them like animals. its just disgusting. Save the mothers life i can understand. the child will be born in utter and complete pain and live that way for how ever long it would live, that i can understand. But mandatory because we assume you'll be a bad parent. hell no. This happens, im marching on Washington, and not picket signs at my side.
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Sorry. The majority has already spoken. I will let the data stand alone.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Sorry. The majority has already spoken. I will let the data stand alone.
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Did we stop fighting Obamacare when it was legalized? did we give up the war on terror when Bin-Laden was killed? if we just gave up every time we lost the initials we would have never achieved half of what we have today. I don't care if im the only one in the whole d*** country who fights the idea that we should murder baby's because they might be raised wrong, as long as one person still fights, no cause is lost.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Now that the elitist have convinced the American public to accept abortion as a morally reasonable thing to do, the next step is to implement mandatory abortions to those who are unfit to be parents. This was envisioned by Plato as a way to improve the quality of the human species much in the same way that cattle are bred to improve the heard.

The question I have to ask is: When Should Mandatory Abortions be implemented in the United States?
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vasuderatorrent

Below is a quote from Book V of Plato's Republic
Unsolicited Commentary: Plato’s Republic: Book Five

"The second wave regarded the communal rearing of children, closely linked to the breeding of the females by only the best men. Socrates was intent upon destroying any bond that might develop except the bonds of a person to their community. The greatest evil was that which caused factions (462b). To this end he erased the family from the lives of the guardians and auxiliaries. No marriages were to be allowed. The best warriors would be directed to mate periodically with the women and the children of those unions would be raised collectively. Not even the mother would know who her offspring were. Socrates goes so far as to insist that this is the most natural way for our best men and women to procreate and exist together. It is not unlike the fighting dogs or game cocks which Glaucon raises at his home 459a).

It is hard to imagine how this relates to the soul of a human except that, perhaps, we should look closely at the relationships to which we cling. In this light, the argument that the offspring of unwarranted intercourse should be aborted is not quite so hideous."
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I'm going to answer your question with a question: This is some kind of sick joke,right?

BTW-You don't have enough options in your poll.
 
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That's exactly what I thought when I first saw this thread.

To put it in words: WTF is this ****.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
That's because this isn't a choice. Elitist are in charge and want to make America stronger. America has already accepted abortion as ok. The next step is mandatory abortions for unfit parents. When the unfit quit breeding this will improve the gene pool thus the quality of life for all. It wasn't my idea. This is a vision of the smartest people in our country. Plato envisioned a Republic that was ruled by the most intelligent class of people rather than the elected class which he despised.
Unless you have the highest IQ in the country it doesn't matter what you think.
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vasuderatorrent
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That is just,like, your opinion ...man.

Which, BTW, I don't share or support.
 
Dittohead not! said:
There is a reason it is called "pro choice."
Anti abortion should be called "anti choice."
mandated abortions would also be "anti choice."

Alcohol is legal. Is there a mandatory beer anyone has to drink? Should pot ever be legalized, will we have to smoke it?

The OP is totally absurd
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I totally agree, my jaw dropped when I read it.
 
CanadaJohn said:
North America had a sad history in the last century where the mentally ill and handicapped were often sterilized against their knowledge or will. I had thought, as a society, that we had advanced beyond that sad, despicable period, but maybe not.
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It appears that some people have been left behind.
 
Paschendale said:
I'm unaware of any situations where securing a right means requiring its exercise. Freedom of speech includes the freedom not to speak. Freedom of religion includes the freedom to have no religion. Freedom to contract includes the freedom not to contract. Freedom of association includes the freedom not to associate. The right to privacy includes the freedom to be public if you like. The right to marry includes the right not to marry. The right to remain silent includes the right not to remain silent. The right to abort includes the right not to abort.

The OP is complete nonsense.
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I agree.

It is nonsense and it's not going to happen in the USA.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I never claimed either the desire or the qualifications - you, however, feel quite capable of making decisions related to other people's bodies.

I do find it odd, however, that you so freely want to end certain people's ability to procreate yet you adamantly oppose other people who believe that a woman should not be allowed to abort for "lifestyle" reasons. It's funny that you selectively believe in the sanctity of a person's body and a person's right to choose.

As a result, you're not "pro-choice" so much as you're "pro-your-choice".
I, on the other hand, am fully pro-choice because I believe in the right of people to make their own choices even if I disagree with those choices and think they are terrible
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This is almost exactly how I feel about some of the choices that people make.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Don't feel bad though. Have you ever seen a conservative fight for the benefit of the extremely wealthy businessman at their own expense?
Most of us are helpless victims to the intellectual class.
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 Humans are social creatures. We crave acceptance and a sense of belonging. It's in our genes to be trusting of authorities. It has a survival function.
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The only helpless victims on this planet are those who allow others to victimize them.
 
Zyphlin said:
I'm going to ignore the obvious ridiculousness of the OP and actually try to crazily address it in a serious way...

If we reach such a point in the United States that overcrowding is leading to significant health and living issues that result in a high mortality rate for all ages due to sickness, lack of resources, and lawlessness running rampant then I could see an attempt to make having additional children a reasonable on to make within the given scope of society.

That said, such a situation is about as likely to occur as a unicorn leaping out of my ass leaving a rainbow trail
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I'm no really into spectator sports but I would pay to watch that happen.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
China had an one child only policy for several decades. Abortions were mandatory in China.
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 It might still be that way. This isn't far fetched at all. We already think abortion is ok. It wouldn't be that difficult to implement without controversy. When I say controversy I mean rioting and violence. I am not referring to massive blog post and people holding signs in front of the White House. Government treats this type of protesting as no protesting at all.

vasuderatorrent
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You are out of touch with current reality, China is changing its abortion policy and a few other things.

You might want to spend a little more time reading the news and staying in touch with current events.
 
Zyphlin said:
I think attempting to compare the general social structure and what the public finds "acceptable" in the United States and China is a bit ridiculous, not to mention the processes in each country in which this would have to come to pass. Not to mention your ridiculously hyperbolic take on comparing the level of controversy and support for mandatory abortions, thus occuring against the INDIVIDUALS will, as it'd relate to the support for allowing abortions to be legal. In part because you, in an obvious fashion, purposefully ignore any sense of logic or reason or intellectual honesty regarding the reasons why many of those who support abortion being legal do...because they feel that the individual should have a choice of what they do to their body. FORCING abortions onto folks would actually result in a coilition of "pro-life" and "pro-choice" individuals joining together in opposition to it..."pro-life" folks opposing it because it still is taking the life of a child in their opinion, and "pro-choice" folk opposing it because it removes the ability of a woman to chose what is done to her body.

Your question isn't honest, your argument isn't intelligent, your premise is ridiculous...all this is is you being annoyed about people being pro-life and trying to put forth a retarded and over the top hypothetical and pretending that somehow it's in any way likely while ignoring the overwhelming amount of actual evidence and reason that suggests the exact opposite.
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Great post and 100% on the money.

You said what needed to be said and you didn't waste a word doing it.

Mark Twain would take his hat off to you.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
It all boils down to choice.
The statist says the choice should be made by the state, either in the form of attempting to outlaw abortion, or attempting to mandate abortion. We don't yet have a powerful enough state to impose such a rule, but we could have one day.

The libertarian says that the choice should be made by the individual, and not the state.
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It's quite clear: Pro choice, or anti choice, more accurately, anti individual choice and pro government choice.
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I have noticed that quite often the same people who want to get government off of Wall Street's back want the same government to stick its nose into every American bedroom for various reasons.




"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government jhas gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~ Ronald Reagan
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Sadly, none of the crazy strawmen these people come up with even surprise me anymore. It got nothing but an eye roll out of me.
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Gee, with all the wacky ideas the abortion banners have come up with for limiting a woman's rights (ex vaginal probes, legitimate rape, etc) why would anyone be surprised that the OP came up with another wacky idea for limiting a woman's right to choose?
 
And when will you let your state of sanity stand alone?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
That isn't an option. I described that in an earlier post. We have already accepted abortion as morally appropriate. There is only a short time away when government officials will have the sufficient support to implement selective breeding of the human race. Never isn't an option unless you are pro-life.
In that case you shouldn't be answering this poll.
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Some People have accepted abortion as morally appropriate for some people under certain situations, others are totally opposed to it.

And a lot of people have positions in the middle of those two.

Maybe you shouldn't have [posted this poll, eh?
 
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