• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96,331

If there was a national vote on equal rights for gays what would you do?


  • Total voters
    133
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Who defined marriage in the first place and who gave them the right to do so?

I don't think the one who did it needs yours or anyone else permission.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

1.)Because there has always been an implicit idea of intimacy in marriage.
2.)In fact it is considered fraud to marry simply for the purpose of gaining entry into the country, this is because it is not just a contract between individuals it is a contract between implied intimate individuals.
3.) When we remove any implicit idea of what traditional marriage is we render it meaningless.
4.) This is a necessary result of a change in the definition.

1A)law doesnt care about intimacy
1B) gay couples are intimate
2.) wow thats a very far stretch, its FRAUD because it has an illegal motive. I could get marries to morrow and have no intimacy and its totally legal not to mention AGAIN law doesnt care and gays are intimate. You are basically comparing sex and rape.
3.) its not being removed because its made up, traditional marriage is made up, its subjective to you, me and everybody else and law doesnt care about it
4.) well since nothign is being removed and the definition isnt changing you dont have to worry

now ill ask the question again since you didn t answer it

why would this ever be true since the way it is right now its not open to ALL Man Women relationships?
what logic supports that allowing gay couples to enter just simply busts opens the imaginary flood gates?
Do you honestly think "i" could influence what you view the meaning of YOUR marriage to mean?
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

I don't think the one who did it needs yours or anyone else permission.

Who was that?
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

I don't think the one who did it needs yours or anyone else permission.

translation: you dont know
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

1.) you factually are not
2.) you are factually wrong
3.) say 25 more times the facts wont change you are factually not for equal rights and they factually dont have them
4.) odd can your quote the post where i called you a homophone and or bigot in this thread? I never did
5.) its not my hookup lol another fail
6.) nobody is redefining marriage this lie always fails, gay marriage is factually marriage.


also ill be waiting for you to quote me calling YOU a bigot and or homophobe in this thread. it never happened.

No matter how much you want it you saying it does not make it so,

Your left wing buddies have.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Moderator's Warning:
Reminder guys, stick to the topic which is not each other or the character of a poster's relationship.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

1.)No matter how much you want it you saying it does not make it so,

2.)Your left wing buddies have.

1.) I agree, me saying doesnt make it so. FACTS make it so thats way your views factually are not for equal rights and gays factually do not have them currently.

2.) so not me know? thats what i thought, good move backing off your statement since it was false.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

If you don't know that is so sad.

so you can say who? we are waiting.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Marriage is not named as a religious sacrament. Its called Holy Matrimony.

No, it's not called that. It's called maritare, because it's Latin. In English, it's either marriage or matrimony. Now, why do you want the US government involved in religious matters? Do you support the Constitution?
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

These are states that flat said no to SSM.

It's sad that this isn't what you said before. So very sad. Why did you change your argument?
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

I am for equal rights to and I believe you already have them....I have said this over and over again but as usual you are not listening and just throwing out you stale homophobe and bigot names when I am neither. Call your hook up whatever you want but don't try and redefine marriage.

What NP fails to understand is that there was a time.....before the definition of marriage was changed....that people considered his inter-racial marriage "Disgusting", "In violation of God's law", "Un-natural", etc.

They gave his so called "Marriage" the same disrespect that he gives to gay marriages. So sad that people never learn from history and keep repeating the same mistakes over and over and over.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

It's going to happen even in your backwater state within 5 years, so are you saying you don't wish to live that long?

No I'm a Bible believer,,,,roots and culture you could say that I do not approve based on belief. I am not judging,,just discerning. Everybody is responsible for their own behavior, both spiritually and secular. Due to my Moral belief system,,,,,I do not like subsidizing a non prolific Marriage basis based on Faith principles. Yes,,my opinion is as subjective,,so is yours.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

No, it's not called that. It's called maritare, because it's Latin. In English, it's either marriage or matrimony. Now, why do you want the US government involved in religious matters? Do you support the Constitution?

Don't lecture me on Latin I went to Catholic School for 12 years and can speak latin fluently and the sacrament is Holy Matrimony.

I do support the Constitution and there is nothing in it about SSM and don't bring up the 14th amendment equal rights clause because the framers of that amendment had nothing about SSM and would turn over in their graves if they could see how the left has twisted that amendment.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

No I'm a Bible believer,,,,roots and culture you could say that I do not approve based on belief. I am not judging,,just discerning. Everybody is responsible for their own behavior, both spiritually and secular. Due to my Moral belief system,,,,,I do not like subsidizing a non prolific Marriage basis based on Faith principles. Yes,,my opinion is as subjective,,so is yours.

The fed "subsidizes" it if you're referring to taxes, and the fed is trillions in debt. No need to worry about that. In fact, SSM has proven an economic boon for the states that allow it, and adopting kids takes them off the foster care rolls.

I don't care much for subsidizing your church either, but that's how it goes.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

And I know what is coming,,,yes I sin,,no I am not perfect. Yes I know the Law is blind to race and sex,,,,,,,just think this the Gay agenda is not about equal rights,,so to speak,,it is more about the money they can get in the form of death SS benefits etc. There is an undeniable fact that there are only two sexes in the Human race,,Male and Female,,,,,,,Proliferation through nature requires that only one can have a child.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Don't lecture me on Latin I went to Catholic School for 12 years and can speak latin fluently and the sacrament is Holy Matrimony.

I do support the Constitution and there is nothing in it about SSM and don't bring up the 14th amendment equal rights clause because the framers of that amendment had nothing about SSM and would turn over in their graves if they could see how the left has twisted that amendment.

What NP always "conveniently" overlooks is that the "framers" also didn't believe in Inter-racial marriage either......and considered it "un-natural" and "disgusting" .....
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Don't lecture me on Latin I went to Catholic School for 12 years and can speak latin fluently

Then you should know better.

and the sacrament is Holy Matrimony.

And marriage. They're interchangeable. You should know better.

I do support the Constitution

Then why do you want the government dealing with sacraments?

and there is nothing in it about SSM

Why is the government dealing with sacraments at all?

and don't bring up the 14th amendment equal rights clause because the framers of that amendment had nothing about SSM and would turn over in their graves if they could see how the left has twisted that amendment.

No, we're talking about how you want religion in our government. Thankfully, less and less people are listening. HURRAY FOR GAY PEOPLE GETTING MARRIED!
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

It's sad that this isn't what you said before. So very sad. Why did you change your argument?

You really need to go back and read what I said.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

The fed "subsidizes" it if you're referring to taxes, and the fed is trillions in debt. No need to worry about that. In fact, SSM has proven an economic boon for the states that allow it, and adopting kids takes them off the foster care rolls.
Yes and I certainly DO NOT think there is any major proof to say that same sex unions can not raise a child,,,normal? No,,,but I do know Gays have integrity the same as any other individual on a responsibility level. I am not saying Gays are less,,,,,I am saying I cannot personally approve of the premise of two of the same kind being married.

Next thing you know,,Cousins and siblings will want to marry,,what is the plan for that?
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

You really need to go back and read what I said.

You talked about votes. Then you wanted to talk about amendments. Then you wanted to talk about amendments only in red states.

You keep changing your argument, it's really kinda funny. Gay people are getting married all over, calm down, stop crying. You don't even have to marry one (YET! OMG!).
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96

I have interracial grand kids and can see no direct correlation with that and the Gay agenda...there are Gays of all races,,Yes?;)
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Next thing you know,,Cousins and siblings will want to marry,,what is the plan for that?

Let them? Do you even understand the concept of of consensual crimes?
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Yes and I certainly DO NOT think there is any major proof to say that same sex unions can not raise a child,,,normal? No,,,but I do know Gays have integrity the same as any other individual on a responsibility level. I am not saying Gays are less,,,,,I am saying I cannot personally approve of the premise of two of the same kind being married.

Next thing you know,,Cousins and siblings will want to marry,,what is the plan for that?

More states allow cousins to marry than gay couples. Not much of a slippery slope when it's the other way around.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

You talked about votes. Then you wanted to talk about amendments. Then you wanted to talk about amendments only in red states.

You keep changing your argument, it's really kinda funny. Gay people are getting married all over, calm down, stop crying. You don't even have to marry one (YET! OMG!).

Haha, thanks for the image of NP being forced to enter into a gay marriage :lamo
 
Back
Top Bottom