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If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96,331

If there was a national vote on equal rights for gays what would you do?

  • Vote Yes - granting equal rights and the right to legal marriage

    Votes: 110 82.7%

  • Vote No - denying equal rights and banning them from getting legal marriage

    Votes: 14 10.5%

  • No vote - you simply dont vote at all

    Votes: 9 6.8%
  • Total voters
    133
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Ontologuy said:
The poll is phrased in an erroneous way.

It sets up a false dualism saying that you are either for gay marriage and thus for equal rights or that you are opposed to gay marriage and thus opposed to equal rights.

The fallacy in the poll's construct is based on the false premise that gay marriage is a right.

It's not.

Gay marriage is a contradiction in terms, an oxymoron, as marriage is and always has been nothing other than "between a man and a woman as husband and wife".

Thus gays have no "right" to marriage, obviously, by foundational respect to definitive propriety, any more than cat owners have a "right" to enter their cats in a dog show for the same reason.

Thus the poll has no accurate correct answer.

All selections in the poll are simply erroneous, including the third one, as not voting in a meaningless poll does not mean one has "no vote", obviously.

Thus the poll is meaningless.
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as usual facts, law, rights, court cases and precedence prove your post wrong and totally destroy every failed fallacy point you made.
Let us know when you have any facts that support your post and when all the facts, laws, rights, court cases and precedence that prove you wrong magically disappear.

the only thing erroneous is your failed opinion proven factually wrong by reality. lol
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Ontologuy said:
False, obviously, on both counts.

First, it truly is irrelevant.

Second, being denied the oxymoronically termed "gay marriage" is not being "blocked from equal opportunity in life", any more than cat owners being denied entry of their cats in a dog show is for them being "blocked from equal opportunity in life". :roll:
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Yeah right, my gay uncle married a woman and later used that exact explanation, and just recently divorced and moved to a state that allows gay marriage, and i have *no idea* what i'm talking about. :roll:
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Hiram said:
No way,,not in this lifetime, would I concede to view two Guys as legitimately married! No way,,,,,,,and to pay them to be Married? No way,,,,,not happening,,NEVER!
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"you" dont have to but national law is going to very soon. Sorry about your luck.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

chromium said:
There is no such thing as a left wing/liberal state. Sweden, Holland, maybe Canada are liberal. I love how you constantly move the barometer for public consensus. In 10 years you'll be saying SSM is horrible because some trailer trash dirt road county in Mississippi opposes it.
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when your talking about presidential elections you have blue and red states, blue being left, red being white.........surely you know that.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Ontologuy said:
False, obviously, on both counts.

First, it truly is irrelevant.

Second, being denied the oxymoronically termed "gay marriage" is not being "blocked from equal opportunity in life", any more than cat owners being denied entry of their cats in a dog show is for them being "blocked from equal opportunity in life". :roll:
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again facts, laws, rights, court cases and precedence all prove your failed opinion factually wrong. Please keep doubling down on this fallacy though case its funny.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

AGENT J said:
"you" dont have to but national law is going to very soon. Sorry about your luck.
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dream on my left wing friend, dream on.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
when your talking about presidential elections you have blue and red states, blue being left, red being white.........surely you know that.
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when you gonna list all these states that PUBLIC VOTED to ban equal rights?
when you gonna post the pool results for those stats and national results for equal rates for gays?
we are waiting
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

AGENT J said:
as usual facts, law, rights, court cases and precedence prove your post wrong and totally destroy every failed fallacy point you made.
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False, obviously.

You simply, being a liberal, have a difficult time accepting the truth I tell .. and erroneous decisions by liberal factions in no way change the truth of what I've told.


AGENT J said:
Let us know when you have any facts that support your post and when all the facts, laws, rights, court cases and precedence that prove you wrong magically disappear.
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Let us know when your ideology no longer prevents you from discerning between obvious truth (as I've presented it) and erroneous court cases, laws and the like that disrespect the truth and are, for more than a few reasons, simply temporary anomalies.


AGENT J said:
the only thing erroneous is your failed opinion proven factually wrong by reality.
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Your projection here is meaningless.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
dream on my left wing friend, dream on.
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nothing to dream about anymore
the miracle of discrimination and bigotry losing and being destroyed by equal rights is happening right before our very eyes and its awesome!!!!
sorry comrade theres always russia.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

chromium said:
Yeah right, my gay uncle married a woman and later used that exact explanation, and just recently divorced and moved to a state that allows gay marriage, and i have *no idea* what i'm talking about. :roll:
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Yes, apparently, to your last clause here, obviously.

Your anecdote is meaningless in its ability to speak to the obvious fact that you concluded from your invalid premise.

There is no "equal opportunity" inherent in the oxymoronically termed "gay marriage", as I accurately presented.

What people do in oppositional defiance disorder fashion is not meaningful with respect to foundational realities such as that marriage is between a man and a woman as husband and wife and only that.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
when your talking about presidential elections you have blue and red states, blue being left, red being white.........surely you know that.
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you may want to be careful throwing around words like "leftist" then as if it's the equivalent to liberal. I'm not a dem and Maine hardly always votes for dems. However, i too would not mind at all a national ballot on this, as i'm pretty damn confident how it would turn out.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Ontologuy said:
False, obviously.

You simply, being a liberal, have a difficult time accepting the truth I tell .. and erroneous decisions by liberal factions in no way change the truth of what I've told.



Let us know when your ideology no longer prevents you from discerning between obvious truth (as I've presented it) and erroneous court cases, laws and the like that disrespect the truth and are, for more than a few reasons, simply temporary anomalies.



Your projection here is meaningless.
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except facts are on our side and you got nothing but your failed opinion. Reality defeats you and destroyed your failed post as usual.
let us know when you have any facts to support your failed claims. . . .heck even ONE fact that makes it not equal rights and not marriage . . . . . ONE . . . .lol
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

AGENT J said:
when you gonna list all these states that PUBLIC VOTED to ban equal rights?
when you gonna post the pool results for those stats and national results for equal rates for gays?
we are waiting
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I can't I don't no any but there has been 33 some states that define marriage as a union between a man and a woman by national referendum . even you know that.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
I can't I don't no any but there has been 33 some states that define marriage as a union between a man and a woman by national referendum . even you know that.
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thats what i thought, thank you for admitting how severely uneducated you are on this topic and how all your posts were complete failures because you didnt have anything to support them.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

AGENT J said:
again facts, laws, rights, court cases and precedence all prove your failed opinion factually wrong. Please keep doubling down on this fallacy though case its funny.
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Repeating your erroneous premise will not lead to an accurate conclusion, no matter how many times you repeat it.

It will simply only be spam.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

AGENT J said:
except facts are on our side and you got nothing but your failed opinion. Reality defeats you and destroyed your failed post as usual.
let us know when you have any facts to support your failed claims. . . .heck even ONE fact that makes it not equal rights and not marriage . . . . . ONE . . . .lol
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False, again, obviously.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Ontologuy said:
Yes, apparently, to your last clause here, obviously.

Your anecdote is meaningless in its ability to speak to the obvious fact that you concluded from your invalid premise.

There is no "equal opportunity" inherent in the oxymoronically termed "gay marriage", as I accurately presented.

What people do in oppositional defiance disorder fashion is not meaningful with respect to foundational realities such as that marriage is between a man and a woman as husband and wife and only that.
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If it's between a man and woman only then it's inevitable that gays will marry the opposite sex...and you will have to accept that because it fits your "foundational reality." So again, would you be ok with a gay guy marrying your daughter?
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Ontologuy said:
Repeating your erroneous premise will not lead to an accurate conclusion, no matter how many times you repeat it.

It will simply only be spam.
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thats what i thought you got nothing facts destroys your lies again!!!


all you have to do is list one fact that supports you and makes it not an equal rights issue and not real marriage. . . . ONE fact that proves those lies true . . . . ONE . .

your post loses again
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

chromium said:
you may want to be careful throwing around words like "leftist" then as if it's the equivalent to liberal. I'm not a dem and Maine hardly always votes for dems. However, i too would not mind at all a national ballot on this, as i'm pretty damn confident how it would turn out.
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even the left wing state of Maine (and I define it that way) because every pundit does, I believe would vote down Gay Marriage. There are still a lot of good Christian people there even if you hate to admit it.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Ontologuy said:
False, again, obviously.
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yes everything you say is false obviously. FACTS make it that way posters are destroying your failed posts.

when ever you are ready post these facts that make it not a equal rights issue and not real marriage we cant wait for the entertainment!
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

chromium said:
you may want to be careful throwing around words like "leftist" then as if it's the equivalent to liberal. I'm not a dem and Maine hardly always votes for dems. However, i too would not mind at all a national ballot on this, as i'm pretty damn confident how it would turn out.
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I just calls em as I see em my left wing friend.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Ontologuy said:
False, again, obviously.
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I don't find it "obvious" that marriage can only be "man + woman".

I used to.

But then it made less and less sense.

So I don't anymore.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
even the left wing state of Maine (and I define it that way) because every pundit does, I believe would vote down Gay Marriage. There are still a lot of good Christian people there even if you hate to admit it.
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Clearly they would not: "The bill for legalization was approved by voters, 53-47 percent, on November 6, 2012"

Same-sex marriage in Maine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
I just calls em as I see em my left wing friend.
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why don't you just /ignore me like DD so i can mock you behind your back
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

AGENT J said:
nothing to dream about anymore
the miracle of discrimination and bigotry losing and being destroyed by equal rights is happening right before our very eyes and its awesome!!!!
sorry comrade theres always russia.
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Don't you lefties ever get tired of throwing out those stale old words.
 
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