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If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do [W:72,96,331

If there was a national vote on equal rights for gays what would you do?

  • Vote Yes - granting equal rights and the right to legal marriage

    Votes: 110 82.7%

  • Vote No - denying equal rights and banning them from getting legal marriage

    Votes: 14 10.5%

  • No vote - you simply dont vote at all

    Votes: 9 6.8%
  • Total voters
    133
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Personally, I do not see the point of disallowing people from being legally married, simply because they are of the same sex.

My parents, being highly religious Christians, would disagree, on the grounds of "1 man 1 woman is the right way"...probably..., but...I just don't see how it really causes ANY issues, apart from upsetting some people. Which isn't a reason to stop it.


Edit: But then, my parents don't even vote, due to religious beliefs, so...
 
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Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
Name me one state where the voters threw out their constitutional amendment......I will be waiting but it won't happen.
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Maine

Changed their minds in 3 years no less. That's how stupid this whole argumentum ad populum is.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

OldWorldOrder said:
So? Why are they naming it after a religious sacrament?

Do you believe in separation of church and state? Are you a proponent of the Constitution?
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Marriage is not named as a religious sacrament. Its called Holy Matrimony.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

zgoldsmith23 said:
Do those states matter statistically, perhaps? This probably wouldn't be electoral so you can put away your 270-map.
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Popular vote my left wing friend but we will have to watch the ballots closely or they would do what they did here in Washington stuff the ballot with left wing votes
or like they did in Ohio where democrats over voted by hundred over the registered voters in the County.
 
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chromium said:
Maine

Changed their minds in 3 years no less. That's how stupid this whole argumentum ad populum is.
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Maine is a blue left wing state....come up with red states.
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
Did you just move the goalposts? Why? Who was talking about constitutional amendments?
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These are states that flat said no to SSM.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

OldWorldOrder said:
Did you just move the goalposts? Why? Who was talking about constitutional amendments?
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of course his post did, this is common when one posts failed dishonesty argument its the only option left
 
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Navy Pride said:
Maine is a blue left wing state....come up with red states.
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Maine is not a "blue left wing state". It has a tea-party-promoted Republican Governor, one Republican and one independent Senators, and doesn't fit very well into any simple political category. It was a rock-solid Republican bastion once, of course - before the concentration of "social conservatives" in the party had reached a toxic level.
 
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Cyrylek said:
Maine is not a "blue left wing state". It has a tea-party-promoted Republican Governor, one Republican and one independent Senators, and doesn't fit very well into any simple political category. It was a rock-solid Republican bastion once, of course - before the concentration of "social conservatives" in the party had reached a toxic level.
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One could argue if a independent had not split the vote, the democrat would have won againist the current republican govenor.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
Marriage is not named as a religious sacrament. Its called Holy Matrimony.
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Absolutely. If one day someone will advocate forcing churches to perform gay marriages, I will be the first to protest, in no uncertain terms.
But the State is not a church. Refusing to certify civil, secular contracts between gays is, indeed, discrimination (and I don't use this word lightly or often), and it must end.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
I am outta here.........Time for my buddy Bill O. You lefties should watch it you might learn something.........

I would love to see a national vote taken on the issue.
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Correct. I'd learn how to be wrong.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Unitedwestand13 said:
One could argue if a independent had not split the vote, the democrat would have won againist the current republican govenor.
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Yes, but that's Maine for you: independents are a power. At least as potent as Dems and GOPers.

It's not like I am in love with Maine, I am more of a New Hampshire kind of guy - live free or die, you know. But it is not a blue state - its politics are truly unique and hard to characterize in familiar mass-media terms.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Just noticed: The results of the poll are kind of slightly lopsided, aren't they? :lol:
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

Navy Pride said:
Maine is a blue left wing state....come up with red states.
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There is no such thing as a left wing/liberal state. Sweden, Holland, maybe Canada are liberal. I love how you constantly move the barometer for public consensus. In 10 years you'll be saying SSM is horrible because some trailer trash dirt road county in Mississippi opposes it.
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

The poll is phrased in an erroneous way.

It sets up a false dualism saying that you are either for gay marriage and thus for equal rights or that you are opposed to gay marriage and thus opposed to equal rights.

The fallacy in the poll's construct is based on the false premise that gay marriage is a right.

It's not.

Gay marriage is a contradiction in terms, an oxymoron, as marriage is and always has been nothing other than "between a man and a woman as husband and wife".

Thus gays have no "right" to marriage, obviously, by foundational respect to definitive propriety, any more than cat owners have a "right" to enter their cats in a dog show for the same reason.

Thus the poll has no accurate correct answer.

All selections in the poll are simply erroneous, including the third one, as not voting in a meaningless poll does not mean one has "no vote", obviously.

Thus the poll is meaningless.
 
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Ontologuy said:
The poll is phrased in an erroneous way.

It sets up a false dualism saying that you are either for gay marriage and thus for equal rights or that you are opposed to gay marriage and thus opposed to equal rights.

The fallacy in the poll's construct is based on the false premise that gay marriage is a right.

It's not.

Gay marriage is a contradiction in terms, an oxymoron, as marriage is and always has been nothing other than "between a man and a woman as husband and wife".

Thus gays have no "right" to marriage, obviously, by foundational respect to definitive propriety, any more than cat owners have a "right" to enter their cats in a dog show for the same reason.

Thus the poll has no accurate correct answer.

All selections in the poll are simply erroneous, including the third one, as not voting in a meaningless poll does not mean one has "no vote", obviously.

Thus the poll is meaningless.
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Would you rather a gay guy marries your daughter?
 
Re: If there was a National Vote on Equal rights for gays, what would you do. [W:72,

No way,,not in this lifetime, would I concede to view two Guys as legitimately married! No way,,,,,,,and to pay them to be Married? No way,,,,,not happening,,NEVER!
 
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chromium said:
Would you rather a gay guy marries your daughter?
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NO! NEVER!,,,,,,,,,He/They should live in Huts on Islands,,away from everyone else! Yes,,
 
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Hiram said:
No way,,not in this lifetime, would I concede to view two Guys as legitimately married! No way,,,,,,,and to pay them to be Married? No way,,,,,not happening,,NEVER!
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It's going to happen even in your backwater state within 5 years, so are you saying you don't wish to live that long?
 
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chromium said:
Would you rather a gay guy marries your daughter?
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Meaningless, topically irrelevant comment.
 
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Ontologuy said:
Meaningless, topically irrelevant comment.
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It's not irrelevant. That's what a large number of them do when blocked from equal opportunity in life.
 
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chromium said:
It's not irrelevant. That's what a large number of them do when blocked from equal opportunity in life.
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False, obviously, on both counts.

First, it truly is irrelevant.

Second, being denied the oxymoronically termed "gay marriage" is not being "blocked from equal opportunity in life", any more than cat owners being denied entry of their cats in a dog show is for them being "blocked from equal opportunity in life". :roll:
 
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shlunka said:
I never alluded to Maine.
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Didn't say you did but one of your lefty friends did.
 
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