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Should the legally blind be allowed to carry guns in public?

Should the legally blind be allowed to carry guns in public?

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molten_dragon said:
I think that everyone should have to pass a basic marksmanship test in order to carry a gun in public. If a legally blind person can pass it, I see no reason to ban them from carrying a gun. If they can't, they shouldn't have one.
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I completely agree
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
they may have the right to bear arms, but what point is having a gun if you cannot hit what you cannot see?
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1) if you actually have read this thread you will see the following

a) I think people should have to pass a shooting test to carry firearms on public properties

b) some of those who don't want blind people carrying guns do not want ANYONE carrying guns so their arguments are a bit disingenuous

2) If you cannot see a target then carrying a gun on the public streets is probably a bad idea which would be proscribed by a shooting test
 
TurtleDude said:
you have constantly presented silly anti gun arguments for months
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I believe a concealed and carry licensee should be pretty difficult to get and i believe in universal background checks and more strict gun laws. Does that make me "anti gun"? Quite honestly i dont care. But being a gun owner myself i also could give a rats ass if im considered "anti gun".
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I believe a concealed and carry licensee should be pretty difficult to get and i believe in universal background checks and more strict gun laws. Does that make me "anti gun"? Quite honestly i dont care. But being a gun owner myself i also could give a rats ass if im considered "anti gun".
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yeah that makes you anti gun for several reasons

1) what you want has no rational hope of decreasing crime

2) Universal background checks are nothing more than a stalking horse for registration and cannot be enforced without complete registration and again won't increase public safety

3) what more strict gun control laws do you want? we have too many gun control laws as it is


4) given how few CCW licensees have misused their guns, its idiotic to say licenses should be harder to get--why does a Socialist want to make it more difficult for poor and working class people to be able to protect themselves?
 
TurtleDude said:
yeah that makes you anti gun for several reasons

1) what you want has no rational hope of decreasing crime

2) Universal background checks are nothing more than a stalking horse for registration and cannot be enforced without complete registration and again won't increase public safety

3) what more strict gun control laws do you want? we have too many gun control laws as it is


4) given how few CCW licensees have misused their guns, its idiotic to say licenses should be harder to get--why does a Socialist want to make it more difficult for poor and working class people to be able to protect themselves?
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So im anti gun. Gotcha. Like i said i could care less what you call me.
 
Even fully blind people have a right to defend themselves. It's not like a blind person could commit a mass shooting. What's the danger here? As far as range time, shooting at sound.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
So im anti gun. Gotcha. Like i said i could care less what you call me.
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I am waiting for you to tell us what strict laws you want and then demonstrate they will actually do some good

the brady law did nothing to decrease violent crime yet you want to make private sellers conduct background checks-a law that cannot be enforced unless and until there is complete registration


so tell us "gun owner" what laws do you want
 
TurtleDude said:
I am waiting for you to tell us what strict laws you want and then demonstrate they will actually do some good

the brady law did nothing to decrease violent crime yet you want to make private sellers conduct background checks-a law that cannot be enforced unless and until there is complete registration


so tell us "gun owner" what laws do you want
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I'm "anti gun" remember. Your the one saying i hate guns and you did pick my positions for me earlier why should i explain?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I'm "anti gun" remember. Your the one saying i hate guns and you did pick my positions for me earlier why should i explain?
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One of the traits of anti gun posters is they are rather coy in telling us what additional laws they want. we pro gun people have no problem expressing our position because our position is honest and motivated by what we claim motivates our position.
 
TurtleDude said:
One of the traits of anti gun posters is they are rather coy in telling us what additional laws they want. we pro gun people have no problem expressing our position because our position is honest and motivated by what we claim motivates our position.
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And apparently you also dont mind picking other peoples positions for them cuz they dont think blind people should be able to carry in public.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
And apparently you also dont mind picking other peoples positions for them cuz they dont think blind people should be able to carry in public.
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you already admitted you want to make it harder for law abiding citizens to get carry licenses and you want to push a stalking horse for registration and other laws

so why are you so afraid to tell us what those additional laws are?
 
TurtleDude said:
you already admitted you want to make it harder for law abiding citizens to get carry licenses and you want to push a stalking horse for registration and other laws

so why are you so afraid to tell us what those additional laws are?
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Close gun show loophole, require handgun license, limit magazine sizes, registry of handguns and assault rifles, outlaw open carry.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
I'm torn on this one. On one hand if they qualify they should be able to but on the other hand, c'mon your BLIND! You want to drive too?:lol:

"According to Prof. David Kopel of the University of Denver's Strum School of Law, in the past 25 years, 42 states have made similar alterations to their laws, changing the language to state that a sheriff "shall issue" (instead of "may issue") firearm permits to applicants without a felony record. According to Aaron Dorr, executive director of Iowa Gun Owners, sheriffs may reject a permit application based on the applicant's behavior in the previous two years.
"We don't think being legally blind is a behavior," Dorr says"

.Should the legally blind be allowed to carry guns in public? - Crimesider - CBS News
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The blind should be legally allowed to carry in public.The 2nd amendment says the people the right to keep and bear arms.It does not say only those who can see the right to keep and bear arms, the right of only those not convicted of a felony the right to keep and bear arms and so on.A blind person deserves the protection of a gun just like anyone else does.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Close gun show loophole, require handgun license, limit magazine sizes, registry of handguns and assault rifles, outlaw open carry.
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see you are anti gun

there are no gun show loopholes-that demonstrates you are ignorant of the law

why should people have a license to exercise a right

magazine limits is a moronic suggestion that has no "limit" to how far it will go and only applies to honest people

assault rifles-again you prove you are ignorant of the law-they have been registered since 1934 and banned (those made after may 19, 1986)

why should handguns be registered? that is a wet dream for gun banners

why should open carry be banned-that eliminates security guards like Brinks

Yes your solutions are extreme anti gun idiocy and have no valid use in a free society
 
My mother's legally blind. She knows how close a target has to be, in order for her to be able to safely shoot at it.

Like all matters related to arming rights, it's a matter of responsibility.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Close gun show loophole, require handgun license, limit magazine sizes, registry of handguns and assault rifles, outlaw open carry.
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So... you need a "mommy may I" permit in order to exercise a natural human right. Sorry, but this means you are against gun rights.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
So... you need a "mommy may I" permit in order to exercise a natural human right. Sorry, but this means you are against gun rights.
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Yes i am! Muahahahaha no gun rights for anyone!
 
TurtleDude said:
see you are anti gun

there are no gun show loopholes-that demonstrates you are ignorant of the law

why should people have a license to exercise a right

magazine limits is a moronic suggestion that has no "limit" to how far it will go and only applies to honest people

assault rifles-again you prove you are ignorant of the law-they have been registered since 1934 and banned (those made after may 19, 1986)

why should handguns be registered? that is a wet dream for gun banners

why should open carry be banned-that eliminates security guards like Brinks

Yes your solutions are extreme anti gun idiocy and have no valid use in a free society
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Like i said i dont care what you call me.
 
I believe I would have to side on err of freedom and say the person should be allowed to carry a firearm unless he/she breaks the law in such a way that would require to revoke their right to carry or own a firearm under the law.
 
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