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Should we abolish Columbus Day?

Abolish Columbus Day, replace it with Bartolomé Day?


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Didn't Columbus die thinking he'd found India, because his incompetence lead him to grossly underestimate the size of the Earth?
 
Didn't Columbus die thinking he'd found India, because his incompetence lead him to grossly underestimate the size of the Earth?

Pretty much. If he hadn't blundered into the Americas, he most likely would've simply starved to death in the middle of the Pacific.
 
Ehhh I don't know if that's really an accurate parallel. Don't mistake me, I'm actually quite a fan of Western imperialism believe it or not, as I think it's largely had a net benefit on the world's economic and social situation.

Even so, I do think there's merit in observing an untouched culture, for what you can learn about different cultural evolutionary pathways, and so it is something of a shame to see the cultures of the New World so utterly and totally extinct.

I think it's a defensible position to both support that the Western Hemisphere has become an extension of Europe and European ideals, and still mourn the loss of a culture that developed in strikingly different ways to those in the Old World.

Well, they're not totally extinct. We can still observe Native American tribes in the Amazon and artic fringes of North America living as more or less distinct cultures.

It's a far cry from a full fledged native empire, but it's certainly something. lol

I have to do a doublethink on the "less objectively terrible" comment. That would be less objectionably terrible from the "European"oint of view - which makes it subjective. :lol:

Better technology, better standards of living, and less violence all seem pretty "objective" to me. :shrug:
 
Why does Christopher Columbus get credit when it was actually Leif Erikson?
 
Why does Christopher Columbus get credit when it was actually Leif Erikson?

even better, why does columbus get credit when it was probably one of the crew who saw land first? then again Columbus controlled the ship's logbooks, so he had the final say of what was written down.
 
even better, why does columbus get credit when it was probably one of the crew who saw land first? then again Columbus controlled the ship's logbooks, so he had the final say of what was written down.

Well of course credit is going to go to the captain.
 
Why does Christopher Columbus get credit when it was actually Leif Erikson?

Leif just hung out for a while and didn't really do anything. A few settlements, meh. Columbus brought Europe.
 
Why does Christopher Columbus get credit when it was actually Leif Erikson?

Because at the time, it was thought Columbus actually discovered America, it wasn't until much later that archaeology found that it was the Vikings. It's a little bit hard to change to "Viking Day" now.
 
Because at the time, it was thought Columbus actually discovered America, it wasn't until much later that archaeology found that it was the Vikings. It's a little bit hard to change to "Viking Day" now.

Viking Day sounds way cooler.
 
Not really, the Vikings found Canada, they didn't find America. Columbus did that.

So? Viking Day sounds way better.
 
Leif just hung out for a while and didn't really do anything. A few settlements, meh. Columbus brought Europe.

He still wasn't the first to discover it though.
 
Because at the time, it was thought Columbus actually discovered America, it wasn't until much later that archaeology found that it was the Vikings. It's a little bit hard to change to "Viking Day" now.
I would say it wouldn't be changed to such because the Viking discovery did not lead to this Country being established, where as Columbus's discovery did.
 
I would say it wouldn't be changed to such because the Viking discovery did not lead to this Country being established, where as Columbus's discovery did.

It should be because it's better.
 
Not really, the Vikings found Canada, they didn't find America. Columbus did that.

Columbus found Cuba and other islands... he never made it to the USA.
 
I would say it wouldn't be changed to such because the Viking discovery did not lead to this Country being established, where as Columbus's discovery did.

Columbus had nothing to do with America being established... that would be the English and French.
 
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