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Should we abolish Columbus Day?

Abolish Columbus Day, replace it with Bartolomé Day?


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Well, I won't pretend to know how you were eventually able to establish your age, but I'm going to guess it wasn't due to your seeming inability to respond without a steady stream of taunts and insults.

You are being unfair in your assessment, as those were responses to the same or a continuation thereof.
That is all we need to know.
 
Maybe he is not speaking about your biological age...ever think of that? Nope...
I see you are showing your juvenility again. Go figure.
 
I see you are showing your juvenility again. Go figure.

That is not juvenile... it is perceptive. You can't tell the difference. Go figure.
 
Interesting. I didn't know he was quite that horrible. As for the holiday, I don't have any attachment to Columbus and wouldn't care if we did away with Columbus Day as such. I'd like to keep that day a federal holiday, though. ;)

I'm not crazy about the idea of Bartolome day, although it sounds like he was a great guy. I think naming a federal holiday after an established saint could pose some issues.

How about a more generic Pioneer's Day?
 
You have yet to show that it was unwarranted and/or that it was murder.
And back then it was obviously allowed and therefore not wrong.





Wtf?
We were speaking in terms of what is legal and illegal.
Not morals and ethics (which are personal) as ChrisL is now attempting.


Another ridiculous comment, from the guy who said he wasn't arguing the legality of it. :doh

Yes murders have been around since time immemorial, just as legal killing has.
What Columbus did was legal.
Learn to distinguish between the two.

Look, if you can't tell the difference between right and wrong without "the law" telling you, then that is just sad.
 
Interesting. I didn't know he was quite that horrible. As for the holiday, I don't have any attachment to Columbus and wouldn't care if we did away with Columbus Day as such. I'd like to keep that day a federal holiday, though. ;)

I'm not crazy about the idea of Bartolome day, although it sounds like he was a great guy. I think naming a federal holiday after an established saint could pose some issues.

How about a more generic Pioneer's Day?

Sounds like a great name to me.
 
That is not juvenile... it is perceptive. You can't tell the difference. Go figure.
No, it is juvenile.
Just as most of your other attempts to criticize were.
And your problem that you don't know the difference.


Look, if you can't tell the difference between right and wrong without "the law" telling you, then that is just sad.
You look.
It wasn't wrong for him to do.

Nor is there a Universal morality.
 
Yes, there pretty much is.
Wrong!
Or in other words, prove it.

What is right and wrong is subjective. Always has been.

Some folk are against the death penalty, others are not.
Do I need to go on?
 
How about we eliminate Columbus Day as a holiday and elevate Veteran's Day from a similar type holiday to status of one of the major holidays (similar to Memorial Day, etc.)?
 
How about we eliminate Columbus Day as a holiday and elevate Veteran's Day from a similar type holiday to status of one of the major holidays (similar to Memorial Day, etc.)?

Or how about we leave Columbus day alone, elevate Veteran's Day and get rid of MLK day.
 
Wrong!
Or in other words, prove it.

What is right and wrong is subjective. Always has been.

Some folk are against the death penalty, others are not.
Do I need to go on?

We have human rights watch groups among others, such as the United Nations to make sure human beings are not "killed" in such ways.
 
We have human rights watch groups among others, such as the United Nations to make sure human beings are not "killed" in such ways.
And?
Not everybody supports or believes in them or their objective.
 
No, it is juvenile.
Just as most of your other attempts to criticize were.
And your problem that you don't know the difference.

He wasn't saying that you were literally 9 years old... He was talking about your mentality...
I merely pointed that out since you seemed to miss it. I was not attempting to criticize you.

So no, I don't have a problem. Well, I continue to talk to you, I guess. That is criticism...
I bet you have HCP or something... High Conflict Personality. You sound very much like my
ex-wife's new partner and that is what he has. Just battle battle battle and never give an inch.
 
And?
Not everybody supports them or their objective.

I believe it's pretty much collective opinion that killing people for their gold or riches is bad. Except for a few outliers.
 
And?
Not everybody supports them or their objective.

So until it is 100% agreement on an issue nothing can ever be right or wrong? Is that what you are trying to say?
 
I believe it's pretty much collective opinion that killing people for their gold or riches is bad. Except for a few outliers.

Nope. Even though there were laws for thousands of years making murder illegal, there were no laws pertaining to those specific natives that made it illegal.
That means that it was legal to kill and torture the natives. Get it now? ;)
 
I believe it's pretty much collective opinion that killing people for their gold or riches is bad. Except for a few outliers.
That is not a Universal morality.
And it wouldn't be wrong to the person who was doing it.
 
Or how about we leave Columbus day alone, elevate Veteran's Day and get rid of MLK day.

Keep Columbus day and get rid of MLK day? You are out of your ****ing mind!! :lol:
 
That is not a Universal morality.
And it wouldn't be wrong to the person who was doing it.

Yes it is.

Yes it would.
 
:laughat:
He wasn't saying that you were literally 9 years old... He was talking about your mentality...
I merely pointed that out since you seemed to miss it. I was not attempting to criticize you.

So no, I don't have a problem. Well, I continue to talk to you, I guess. That is criticism...
I bet you have HCP or something... High Conflict Personality. You sound very much like my
ex-wife's new partner and that is what he has. Just battle battle battle and never give an inch.
:doh
Still trying to judge and/or pigeonhole huh? What a shame.
Ain't gonna work.
And yes you do have a problem with not understanding that your juvenile actions to criticize, were juvenile.
 
So until it is 100% agreement on an issue nothing can ever be right or wrong? Is that what you are trying to say?
No, I am saying that law is determinative. How could you miss that after all this time?

I am also saying that in this instance you judge the individual by the standards of the time they were in.
 
Keep Columbus day and get rid of MLK day? You are out of your ****ing mind!! :lol:
Nope.
MLK day was undeserved.

Columbus day is deserved.
 
No, I am saying that law is determinative. How could you miss that after all this time?

I am also saying that in this instance you judge the individual by the standards of the time they were in.

And he was brought up on charges for his actions, so apparently ILLEGAL.
 
Nope.
MLK day was undeserved.

Columbus day is deserved.

Insanity. MLK is a much more modern figure that more people can relate to. Unlike that loon Christopher Columbus.
 
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