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If prostitution were legal...

If prostitution were legal... would pimps be "necessary"?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 5.6%
  • No

    Votes: 27 75.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 19.4%

  • Total voters
    36
If prostitution were legal... would pimps be "necessary"?

Please note that "necessary" is in quotes.
Many diferent buisness models could operate prostitution. The presence of a pimp would depend on the buisness model used.
 
Your lack of understanding is getting tedious.

1. Women from EU countries don't need work visas/green cards/work permits of any sort to work in Germany as prostitutes.
2. The overwhelming majority of women trafficked are from EU countries.
3. 25% of the women trafficked were Poland/Czech Republic:
a) both of which are countries that have legalized prostitution
b) both of which have women who don't require visas/work permits to work as prostitutes in Germany.

You're starting to look REALLY ignorant.

No you are for not taking into account that their methods are different from ours. People who come here DO need work permits, etc.
 
To the bolded parts, which is it? I think you contradicted yourself.

Won't make a dent and not by much are interchangeable terms.

Sorry if I'm missing something, but this doesn't make any sense. Do you mean profitable for the customer, or profitable for the "pimp"? Also, who says we have to have the same system as Germany? I don't know much about normal prices, but I would think we could get the legal alternative to complete on a level where most people would pay extra for legality, and less risk. (STDS)

Profitable in the sense that it would bear any kind of positive fruit for the society in general. We'll simply have

1) legal prostitution
2) illegal prostitutes being shipped in by those who find it more profitable to put slaves to work
 

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No you are for not taking into account that their methods are different from ours. People who come here DO need work permits, etc.

Yes, and they need passports - just like the thousands of Filipino women who've legally entered through California, given work permits and then legally have been put to work as slaves. Human traffickers only need to be nice until the paperwork is done.
 
Won't make a dent and not by much are interchangeable terms.



Profitable in the sense that it would bear any kind of positive fruit for the society in general. We'll simply have

1) legal prostitution
2) illegal prostitutes being shipped in by those who find it more profitable to put slaves to work

We already have number 2. Because a lot of women on the streets are addicted to drugs, they willingly sell their bodies for drug money. I don't know where you live but you seem very naive.
 
Yes, and they need passports - just like the thousands of Filipino women who've legally entered through California, given work permits and then legally have been put to work as slaves. Human traffickers only need to be nice until the paperwork is done.

And if prostitution is legalized, these women have an escape route. Now, not so much.
 
And if prostitution is legalized, these women have an escape route. Now, not so much.

Ah, you mean like Germany - where women have been legally transferred from one country to another and then legally put to work as slaves until the police find them in abhorrent conditions? Sure. :roll:
 
Ah, you mean like Germany - where women have been legally transferred from one country to another and then legally put to work as slaves until the police find them in abhorrent conditions? Sure. :roll:

Bad things are going to happen to people regardless. Regulation would protect a good many people though.
 
We already have number 2. Because a lot of women on the streets are addicted to drugs, they willingly sell their bodies for drug money. I don't know where you live but you seem very naive.

So wait, your solution to that problem is making it more enticing to traffic women?
 
Won't make a dent and not by much are interchangeable terms.
Eh, I see what you mean, but in my opinion they are barely interchangeable.



Profitable in the sense that it would bear any kind of positive fruit for the society in general. We'll simply have

1) legal prostitution
2) illegal prostitutes being shipped in by those who find it more profitable to put slaves to work
I disagree. There's going to be people who pay extra for legality, and if it's sufficiently regulated it would cut down on the spread of disease. What makes you think our government wouldn't be able to make prices sufficiently competitive? I agree, it would be more expensive, but would it be by enough for people to turn down not getting arrested, and not contracting STD'S?
 
That's Link, from The Legond of Zelda. His name is Link.....these are the jokes people....

I think you need to work on your presentation. :mrgreen:
 
So wait, your solution to that problem is making it more enticing to traffic women?

No my idea is to protect people who are going to do it regardless.
 
Eh, I see what you mean, but in my opinion they are barely interchangeable.

I disagree. There's going to be people who pay extra for legality, and if it's sufficiently regulated it would cut down on the spread of disease.

Sure, and there are people who pay for music CDs/DVDs, yet illegal distribution/downloading is far more profitable than legality. Nothing beats stealing and then selling it - 100% profit margin. :shrug:
 
No my idea is to protect people who are going to do it regardless.

There are already laws in place to protect prostitutes in the EU where prostitution is for the most part legal. You can't force people to prostitute themselves. Which is what human trafficking is all about to begin with. What are the results? Millions being trafficked, women still being abused by pimps. Again, legalizing prostitution won't make human trafficking disappear or even so much as make a dent in a business that turns a near 100% profit.
 
There are already laws in place to protect prostitutes in the EU where prostitution is for the most part legal. You can't force people to prostitute themselves. Which is what human trafficking is all about to begin with. What are the results? Millions being trafficked, women still being abused by pimps. Again, legalizing prostitution won't make human trafficking disappear or even so much as make a dent in a business that turns a near 100% profit.

The EU is not America. I couldn't care less about the EU. I think legalization here in America would certainly make things safer in a variety of ways for all parties involved.

Legalization and regulation would make it easier to track and control who is and who is not prostituting themselves with special licensing requirements, etc. How you think that would have the opposite effect, I don't know but I can't make sense of where you're coming from at all.
 
I think you need to work on your presentation. :mrgreen:
Well maybe you're right. Im just not going to take this topic to seriously with a shut-down underway.

Prostitution is not the world's oldest profession. Common sense tells me the world's oldest profession would have to be something like a cook, or hunter, medicin.

http://prostitution.procon.org/view.timeline.php?timelineID=000028


Prostitution in America was brought down by one of the earliest women's lib movments.... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman's_Christian_Temperance_Union .....so relegalizing it today in the name of women's lib is just stillness.

And then there's international sex-slave traffeking to consider, which was a large part is Sweeden's decision to ban it:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/03/31/sweden.beatrice.ask.trafficking/index.html

Yes it's your body but you cannot do things which harm others. Legalised prostitution harms others.
 
Well maybe you're right. Im just not going to take this topic to seriously with a shut-down underway.

Prostitution is not the world's oldest profession. Common sense tells me the world's oldest profession would have to be something like a cook, or hunter, medicin.

Historical Timeline - Prostitution - ProCon.org


Prostitution in America was brought down by one of the earliest women's lib movments.... Woman's Christian Temperance Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .....so relegalizing it today in the name of women's lib is just stillness.

And then there's international sex-slave traffeking to consider, which was a large part is Sweeden's decision to ban it:
Sweden: Why we criminalized purchase of sexual services - CNN.com

Yes it's your body but you cannot do things which harm others. Legalised prostitution harms others.

You totally ignore my statements about us doing it differently. There is more than one way to skin a cat. I'm sure it would be quite easy to look at other countries, what they've done and what has failed and what has been successful, and apply things in a manner that would be effective.

No one can convince me that regulation and legalization would make prostitution LESS safe than keeping it in the darkness. That just doesn't make sense.
 
Sure, and there are people who pay for music CDs/DVDs, yet illegal distribution/downloading is far more profitable than legality. Nothing beats stealing and then selling it - 100% profit margin. :shrug:

Except with that you don't have diseases being spread around. :roll: So you concede legality would cut into the illegal way?
 
Except if prostitution were legal you'd be robbing what are essentially agents. Legal agents.

Those exist now, and they wouldn't be on the list.

Its the predatory manipulators that would get it. Maybe tattoo "douche" on their forheads while I'm at it. Or "trick", even better.
 
Except with that you don't have diseases being spread around. :roll:

Wait, you think legal prostitutes are the only ones who use condoms? Even human traffickers have an interest in keeping their slaves healthy.
 
Eh, I see what you mean, but in my opinion they are barely interchangeable.




I disagree. There's going to be people who pay extra for legality, and if it's sufficiently regulated it would cut down on the spread of disease. What makes you think our government wouldn't be able to make prices sufficiently competitive? I agree, it would be more expensive, but would it be by enough for people to turn down not getting arrested, and not contracting STD'S?
Just like how gun control was supposed to cut down on crime, right?

The most common type of prostitute is the street walker. You can't regulate the street walker because there are simply to many to audit. If one contracts an std disqualifying her from licensure, there is nothing stopping her from selling anyway. There are simply to many street walkers for a 3rd party (cops) to audit.
 
Wait, you think legal prostitutes are the only ones who use condoms? Even human traffickers have an interest in keeping their slaves healthy.
I have no clue where you got that impression? :confused: I don't think condoms are really all that effective at stopping AIDS. The real I'm thinking it would be safer is if it's regulating you could have mandatory testing for legal prostitutes, or have a documents proving they got testing so people know who has.
 
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