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So how come such a simple alternative plan wasn't brought in by republicans months or even years ago? Obamacare wasn't signed into law yesterday.
All we need to do to end this crisis is let the House vote on a clean spending bill that ONLY funds the government and does nothing else.
Its very simple.
Why can't Boehner find some courage and do it?
Why should they? I pay for insurance, can't you pay for yours?
I realize this is just your opinion, but it seemed so appropriate, I couldn't resist! ! :thumbs:
"A picture is worth a thousand words." Attributed to Frederick Barnard.
Greetings, Rocketman. :2wave:
Yes I can - I actually do pay for my own and for my family, why do you think I don't? Because I am for healthcare reform?
I don't know about you but I don't really like it when a 5 year old child with cancer is denied coverage and treatment by a company that pays it's CEO millions upon millions of dollars. Something is kinda wrong with that picture. You might be with the let the baby die, the ceo earns his money blah blah blah crowd but I prefer to have a heart.
Show me any company that basis decisions from the heart. I have issue with parents that had that 5 year old child without coverage.
Many people have coverage but are denied certain treatments. Let's say the baby was born with a birth defect, do you think it's right to classify that as a pre-existing condition and deny coverage in that instance?
I think it is wrong to have that baby without coverage, that means knowing what is covered. Preparation is on you, not anyone else.
So when you have the ultra sound and find out the baby has a birth defect and will not qualify for coverage, you are for abortion. Gotcha!
To be clear, I don't hold it up as a "victory." What I'd say is that in many but not all respects, it is working. To wit:
• 97% of MA residents are now insured.
• It's got a 65% approval rating
• It's working well with the advent of ACO's
• Insurance premiums rose at half the rate of the rest of the US
• Insurers are not going bankrupt
• It hasn't bankrupted the state
Nothing about the ACA changes the rates at which primary care physicians get paid; that's still between the doctor and the insurer. The only possible way it could have an effect is if the law results in more people going to see doctors.
And surely you are not going to hold up one and only statistic -- wait times for non-emergency care -- and on that basis declare that Romney's reforms are a disaster across the board?
Thing is, if you truly asked those questions before having that child you would not be getting that answer. I have a grandchild with a defect, everything was covered but that answer was already known. I see you can't debate without extremism.
thanks, those three have hurt my income, insurance costs, and future more than any other three I can remember. The sheep that follow them think they actually care about them.
I guess saying "it is wrong to have that baby without coverage" isn't the least bit extreme. Considering that with a list of pre-existing conditions that won't be covered by insurance, and for many instance those can't be detected until further along in the pregnancy, either you risk the pregnacy and then you might have a baby with a condtion that won't be covered, don't get pregnant so you don't risk it, or you abort the baby so you don't have a child that won't be covered.
As I have posted before, my siblings are all Dems, and my two brothers have small businesses. Even they are unhappy and disappointed in BHO, and they get all nostalgic when referring to the past..."when we had lots of work." They attribute it to people not having jobs like they used to; hence no money to spend on new roofing or remodeling, etc, and they blame that on BHO's government policies.
my company is French owned, 8 years ago this was their strongest market, it is now their weakest and they have been liquifying assets here for the last 4 years
Of you whine about things that are bs ^, prepared parents don't have these issues
Fair enough. I'm not a fan of single payer either, but it would not be the incoherent, coercive mess that is ACA. The good news about single payer is that in every country where it exists there is some means (within the system or otherwise) to get better care by paying more.eace
Right now Boehner is the man standing in the way of ending the shutdown.
All he has to do is let the House vote on a clean budget.
The Senate took the House bill, stripped out the stuff that was unrelated to the Continuing Resolution, and sent it back to the House.
Boehner won't let them vote on it.
So much for democracy.
lol, even the most 'prepared' parents can be thrown a curveball finding out their child will have special needs. I am trying to be realistic here but I am not going to waste anymore time. I am sure the current healthcare system works great for you and I hope you have a great day. :2wave:
Agreed, but do we really want a 2-tier system where the 99% get the crappy neglect that passes for health care on the Indian reservations and the wealthy 1% have access to quality care? That strikes me as a recipe for a serious revolution.
Standing a bit further back to gain a larger perspective: We already know that we have a problem with entitlements that are unsupportable - Social Security, Medicare, defined benefit retirement programs and the like. Do we really need another entitlement program right now, particularly one with as murky a cost future as ObamaCare?
My own suggestion for a third, and final, Republican position is full funding for the rest of the government with the following restrictions on ObamaCare: (1) Delay the individual mandate for a year, but allow those who want to sign up to do so; (2) Repeal the awful 2.3% tax on medical devices (which applies to revenue, not profit, and sends jobs overseas); (3) No exemptions for Congress and staffers - the chefs must eat the same crap as they feed rest of us. If the Democrats feel that even these three modest requirements are worth holding the entire government hostage, let them explain their positions - and we will express our opinion at the polls next year.
continue on with your beliefs, my mother used to read me a story like that:
Considering the right wing response to the passing of PPACA that image is particularly fitting.