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Who do you hold at fault for the Govt shutdown?

Who is at fault for the shutdown?

  • Republicans

    Votes: 87 45.3%

  • Democrats

    Votes: 32 16.7%

  • Both

    Votes: 65 33.9%

  • Neither

    Votes: 8 4.2%
  • Total voters
    192
Perotista said:
Sure I remember Scoop Jackson. You could say he was in the same mold as Sam Nunn. He ran for president the same year Jimmy did. All of my old Democratic Icon's are either retired or long dead.
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Scoop Jackson was a great American.
 
I'm going to say neither. I'm actually surprised it took this long to happen. It's merely a reflection of the extreme ideological divide amongst Americans. We've become so polarized we can't reconcile two halves of the country. We're going to have to be willing to compromise on both sides (no, slightly less than what the democrats/republicans want is not compromise).
 
NIMBY said:
Okay. 1) Senate 2) House 3) Governors 4) State legislatures and down..
This is why the Repubs won in 2010..Sen. Kaine was out of his league compared to Michael Steele. Crickets from Repubs.
And Christie over Paul for the 2016, who I could vote for.
Post-season is awesome. Tomahawk-chop
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the idea of Clinton or Biden, although I liked Joe as a Senator and I think he has done a great job as VP, I just can't picture him as President, Hillary neither. Perhaps it is a southerner's fetish with someone from New England, I don't see myself voting for Christie either. I suppose I am hopping a third party candidate with tons of money may step forward ala Perot in 92 with a meaningful message and creditable campaign.

I think if Daniels from Indiana ran, I would vote for him. Perhaps an Alexander or a Susan Martinez on the GOP side. Hickenlooper was interesting to me for a while, but the gun control law there has dropped him off my radar. Nixon of Missouri I have heard a lot of good things about him. But all in all, I will just wait.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Are you still CONUS? Good evening pero...
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Afraid so AP. Way too many doctor appointments with the wife and then hail damage to the house. But our time is coming. How are you doing this fine evening? I got to get the house sold before we make that trip across the pond.
 
Perotista said:
Afraid so AP. Way too many doctor appointments with the wife and then hail damage to the house. But our time is coming. How are you doing this fine evening? I got to get the house sold before we make that trip across the pond.
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Well, I'm sorry about the doctor appointments, and hopefully you two will be able to move along shortly. Everything is fine on this end,,,
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Well, I'm sorry about the doctor appointments, and hopefully you two will be able to move along shortly. Everything is fine on this end,,,
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Glad to hear it, darn Dodgers are trying to catch up. Time for Kimbrel.
 
I do NOT want Biden or Clinton. Time to move on.
I really like Gillibrand and your mention of Nixon is spot on.
Many new and younger Repub govs, like S. Martinez and Sandoval, need to serve their time and do a good job for their states, IMO.
With 3 years to run, I believe this is Christie's time.
Perotista said:
the idea of Clinton or Biden, although I liked Joe as a Senator and I think he has done a great job as VP, I just can't picture him as President, Hillary neither. Perhaps it is a southerner's fetish with someone from New England, I don't see myself voting for Christie either. I suppose I am hopping a third party candidate with tons of money may step forward ala Perot in 92 with a meaningful message and creditable campaign.

I think if Daniels from Indiana ran, I would vote for him. Perhaps an Alexander or a Susan Martinez on the GOP side. Hickenlooper was interesting to me for a while, but the gun control law there has dropped him off my radar. Nixon of Missouri I have heard a lot of good things about him. But all in all, I will just wait.
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NIMBY said:
I do NOT want Biden or Clinton. Time to move on.
I really like Gillibrand and your mention of Nixon is spot on.
Many new and younger Repub govs, like S. Martinez and Sandoval, need to serve their time and do a good job for their states, IMO.
With 3 years to run, I believe this is Christie's time.
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Yeah, I think so too. 4-3 bottom of the eighth.
 
First, the color announcer says he was safe after a replay.
Now he says he's out.
Sounds like a politician.
Congrats.
The color guy jumps on the no-call strike and misses again.
As long as DET loses, I don't care what OAK does.
Perotista said:
Yeah, I think so too. 4-3 bottom of the eighth.
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NIMBY said:
First, the color announcer says he was safe after a replay.
Now he says he's out.
Sounds like a politician.
Congrats.
The color guy jumps on the no-call strike and misses again.
As long as DET loses, I don't care what OAK does.
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I'm happy, now just take one out in LA and return to the big ATL.
 
Interesting that the OP made the poll anonymous. It would be intriguing to see which conservative posters voted to blame the GOP. DP membership tends to skew more conservative than liberal, so this poll is telling.
 
Respect to those who can see through the partisanship, like those Dems who slammed the Obama admin for the NSA spying and drone strikes. Good for you. I'll keep an eye on your future posts and treat them in the light of this sensible attitude.
 
mac said:
Who, in your opinion, is primarily at fault for the shutdown?
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Well, if a President wants more than the House wants to give him? He reminds me of a child, that wants his allowance but not cut the grass.
 
americanwoman said:
There's no poll yet but I think it's ridiculous neither side can compromise. Yes, there are provisions that need to be worked out but why did the ones who oppose it not only wait until the last minute but have no alternative to bring to the table. Something needs to be done with healthcare and while Obamacare isn't perfect it's a start and maybe we should give it a try and if it doesn't work, then fix it.
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I think you are totally right that the problems should have been solved earlier. But Obama did not want to delay his epochal project, though such delay is the condition the House made for his budget. It is the Presidents job to spend the money the House allows him and it seems to be constitutional to attach conditions. I think it pretty sick to allow a government shutdown and a temporary stop on all programs because the House wants to delay one program. But the same goes for the House. They could have acted against their better judgement and didn't.
 
American said:
And this is relevant how? It's really important to party hackers who don't ever care about doing the right thing. For you, it's about control, power and money.
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It's relevant because this thread is about which party is more to blame.

Clearly, Republicans are. 8 out of 10 people say so.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
It's relevant because this thread is about which party is more to blame.

Clearly, Republicans are. 8 out of 10 people say so.
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A poll makes it true? Perhaps there is hope for the Flat Earth Society after all. :lamo:lamo
 
Diogenes said:
A poll makes it true? Perhaps there is hope for the Flat Earth Society after all. :lamo:lamo
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A poll represents how people, in general, feel at the time the poll is taken.

Currently 8 out of 10 feel that Republicans, at least in part, are to blame.

Now while this forum poll is pretty meaningless because it's an unscientific online poll restricted to visitors of this site, it does reflect the numbers we're seeing from actual scientific polling.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
It's relevant because this thread is about which party is more to blame.

Clearly, Republicans are. 8 out of 10 people say so.
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anonymous polls mean nothing. what a moronic statement you have made there
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
A poll represents how people, in general, feel at the time the poll is taken.

Currently 8 out of 10 feel that Republicans, at least in part, are to blame.

Now while this forum poll is pretty meaningless because it's an unscientific online poll restricted to visitors of this site, it does reflect the numbers we're seeing from actual scientific polling.
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I watched all three network news anchors blame the GOP. Gee, I wonder what the sheeple will say when asked
 
TurtleDude said:
I watched all three network news anchors blame the GOP. Gee, I wonder what the sheeple will say when asked
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Reality has a liberal bias.

Here's some sheeple:

 
TurtleDude said:
I watched all three network news anchors blame the GOP. Gee, I wonder what the sheeple will say when asked
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That's because Republicans are to blame. But don't more people watch Fox?
 
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