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Does Obama want a government shut down?

Does Obama want a government shut down?

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johndylan1 said:
You are probably right, but that will leave it to go to conference. At that point the house can refuse negotiation, gov would shutdown for only a few hours before the house starts sending department spending authorizations up to the senate one by one and dare the senate to allow the shut down of each individual department to continue.
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Depends on what the reporting is like ... guess that's not really much of a toss-up is it.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Obama is irrelevant - who cares what he wants.
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Greetings, CJ. :2wave:

My question is: how does this benefit anyone? I doubt many businesses are going to continue to pay 40-hours wages to a 30-hour work week, so if that's the case, people are going to find their paychecks a lot smaller than they're used to be. With Obamacare kicking in soon, that seems like a double whammy...lower paychecks at the same time everyone now pays more for health insurance. Well, everyone except those, like unions, who are receiving exemptions. Have I missed something important here? :shock:
 
polgara said:
Greetings, CJ. :2wave:

My question is: how does this benefit anyone? I doubt many businesses are going to continue to pay 40-hours wages to a 30-hour work week, so if that's the case, people are going to find their paychecks a lot smaller than they're used to be. With Obamacare kicking in soon, that seems like a double whammy...lower paychecks at the same time everyone now pays more for health insurance. Well, everyone except those, like unions, who are receiving exemptions. Have I missed something important here? :shock:
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On top of that, add the ridiculous price of gasoline and steadily rising food costs also are crippling the working people.

Now..if we were all unionized govt employees we'd be fine...
 
Navy Pride said:
Your thoughts please.
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I think he does. The president has the bully pulpit and can be heard way above any member of congress. The presidents hopes is a government shut can be blame solely on the Republicans. It will probably work.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, CJ. :2wave:

My question is: how does this benefit anyone? I doubt many businesses are going to continue to pay 40-hours wages to a 30-hour work week, so if that's the case, people are going to find their paychecks a lot smaller than they're used to be. With Obamacare kicking in soon, that seems like a double whammy...lower paychecks at the same time everyone now pays more for health insurance. Well, everyone except those, like unions, who are receiving exemptions. Have I missed something important here? :shock:
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Howdy Pol. If the president was smart, he would waive all of Obama care for everyone for a year. That would get him past the 2014 elections. Obama care has the possibility of switching the senate to GOP control more than anything else.
 
Silly question. Of course Obama does not want a government shut down. Obama is not the one threatening a government shut down to being with.
These House whackos would not even consider the shut down if Obama had stood his ground and held to his principles thus far. Because Obama has bent over for Republicans repeatedly, they think he might flinch on this too. But he wont. Because if he flinches this time, we are done with this spineless man, and he knows it.
Obama will stand his ground, as will Senate Democrats. And if the GOP wants to bring down America it will be on them.
One good thing will come of it... We will be rid of the GOP corporate puppet machine for good.
 
My second cousin made post on facebook today that said Obama ain't gonna honor the military's pay-checks . . . he ain't gonna cover Social Security checks either. Worse thing ever? He won't make the disability checks good . . . for our disabled vets. Apparently, Obama writes personal checks to all of these people. He controls the purse strings. Go figure . . . I thought Congress wrote the checks. You learn something new everyday.
 
Painter said:
Silly question. Of course Obama does not want a government shut down. Obama is not the one threatening a government shut down to being with.
These House whackos would not even consider the shut down if Obama had stood his ground and held to his principles thus far. Because Obama has bent over for Republicans repeatedly, they think he might flinch on this too. But he wont. Because if he flinches this time, we are done with this spineless man, and he knows it.
Obama will stand his ground, as will Senate Democrats. And if the GOP wants to bring down America it will be on them.
One good thing will come of it... We will be rid of the GOP corporate puppet machine for good.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
too funny...
 
Perotista said:
Howdy Pol. If the president was smart, he would waive all of Obama care for everyone for a year. That would get him past the 2014 elections. Obama care has the possibility of switching the senate to GOP control more than anything else.
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Good evening, Pero. :2wave:

Took a very short little trip to celebrate my birthday, and I came back to this! Honestly, sometimes I wonder what is really going on with the thinking in DC! :mrgreen:
 
polgara said:
Good evening, Pero. :2wave:

Took a very short little trip to celebrate my birthday, and I came back to this! Honestly, sometimes I wonder what is really going on with the thinking in DC! :mrgreen:
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That is the problem, they don't think.
 
Navy Pride said:
Your thoughts please.
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I honestly don't think so. I think he'd love for republicans to compromise a little, he compromise a little and have a smooth sailing presidency where everybody got along. Although I'm not a democrat from what I've seen republicans operating from a grass roots GOP mandate egged on by conservative pundits have taken the position not to compromise one bit. From before he was even elected he was defined as the enemy. The first president in history who's had to produce a birth certificate to prove is citizenship, reminiscent to some of the reconstruction era grandfather clause. Even his administration has been labeled in terminology reserved for the most despised tyrannies of the world, The Obama "Regime."
 
How do you make a poll pg?
If you want, I'd like one as to what people like their ice cold beer in, bottles or cans?
polgara said:
:thumbs: So it appears! :lamo:
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Looks like Broun in a crowded field since Gingrey whined about how low his pay is.
He is already an Akin/Mourdock.
Perotista said:
Howdy Pol. If the president was smart, he would waive all of Obama care for everyone for a year. That would get him past the 2014 elections. Obama care has the possibility of switching the senate to GOP control more than anything else.
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NIMBY said:
How do you make a poll pg?
If you want, I'd like one as to what people like their ice cold beer in, bottles or cans?
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Good evening, NIMBY. :2wave:

I've never done one, so I'm not sure. I bet you'll get lots of help from others on this thread, though. :thumbs:
 
Here's one for ya.
Have No Fear Of Ice Cold Beer.
The 1st letter of each word stands for a diatomic molecule;hydrogen;nitrogen;fluorine;oxygen;iodine;chlorine;bromine
With high school students I must say beverage but they like it.
polgara said:
Good evening, NIMBY. :2wave:

I've never done one, so I'm not sure. I bet you'll get lots of help from others on this thread, though. :thumbs:
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NIMBY said:
Here's one for ya.
Have No Fear Of Ice Cold Beer.
The 1st letter of each word stands for a diatomic molecule;hydrogen;nitrogen;fluorine;oxygen;iodine;chlorine;bromine
With high school students I must say beverage but they like it.
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:thumbs: Those kids are getting smarter all the time! :lamo:
 
Politico had an article about how the kids "may not stink" as bad as we thought.
I don't look at my kids like that.
We go further now then ever and it's up to them and their families what choices they make.
polgara said:
:thumbs: Those kids are getting smarter all the time! :lamo:
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polgara said:
Greetings, CJ. :2wave:

My question is: how does this benefit anyone? I doubt many businesses are going to continue to pay 40-hours wages to a 30-hour work week, so if that's the case, people are going to find their paychecks a lot smaller than they're used to be. With Obamacare kicking in soon, that seems like a double whammy...lower paychecks at the same time everyone now pays more for health insurance. Well, everyone except those, like unions, who are receiving exemptions. Have I missed something important here? :shock:
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Good morning Lady P. Hope all is well. Bottom line, America is very strong and not even a disasterous President can destroy it - as I said after the election, you now have four more years of stagnation, but that too will pass in time. Americans are great at perseverance. As the old saying goes "If you're going through hell, keep going".
 
Navy Pride said:
Anyone who thinks he does not want a shutdown is a left wing partisan.
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Anyone who thinks he does want a government shutdown is a rightwing partisan.
 
NIMBY said:
Looks like Broun in a crowded field since Gingrey whined about how low his pay is.
He is already an Akin/Mourdock.
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In the latest PPP polls Michele Nunn leads Broun 41-36, she leads Kingston 40-38 and is tied with Gingrey 41 apiece. Here is just the Republican Field Gingrey 25, Broun 19, Kinston 15, Handel 13, Perdue 5, Grayson 3.

Of course with Michele Nunn it is a lot of name recognition. But I truly believe if the GOP nominates Broun, our next senator from Georgia will be another Democratic Nunn. But no one really knows where she stands on the issues yet.

Georgia has moved up its primary from July to May in hopes to keep the nomination away from Broun. If Michele Nunn is anything like her father, she will have my vote regardless of who the GOP nomination is. But until she comes out and lets everyone know where she stands on the issues, this may be just a pipe dream especially if she is like an Atlanta Liberal. We will just have to wait and see.
 
jamesrage said:
Anyone who thinks he does want a government shutdown is a rightwing partisan.
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Not necessarily. If Obama can get the public to blame the GOP heavily for the shutdown and carry that disapproval into the midterms next year and possibly retake the House, that would be a huge incentive for a shutdown for Obama. That's a big IF though.
 
Perotista said:
In the latest PPP polls Michele Nunn leads Broun 41-36, she leads Kingston 40-38 and is tied with Gingrey 41 apiece. Here is just the Republican Field Gingrey 25, Broun 19, Kinston 15, Handel 13, Perdue 5, Grayson 3.

Of course with Michele Nunn it is a lot of name recognition. But I truly believe if the GOP nominates Broun, our next senator from Georgia will be another Democratic Nunn. But no one really knows where she stands on the issues yet.

Georgia has moved up its primary from July to May in hopes to keep the nomination away from Broun. If Michele Nunn is anything like her father, she will have my vote regardless of who the GOP nomination is. But until she comes out and lets everyone know where she stands on the issues, this may be just a pipe dream especially if she is like an Atlanta Liberal. We will just have to wait and see.
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My girl from North Dakota didn't let you down.
As a stage 4 cancer survivor, she delivered a forceful defense of ACA BEFORE the election.
With all the old-timers in ND, ACA actually helped her.
Repubs may have this "Akin" problem in LA and AK also.
 
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