If a man can refuse to support his child that HE helped create, do you think women are just going to abort their babies? LOL! NO, you and I will be paying for these children as the child's father and creator walks away free from any responsibility.
Maybe, maybe not. I don't care what they do.
I've already addressed this fallacy earlier in the thread. Search my name in-thread. We'll be paying for it either way, except perhaps we might be paying for him instead of the kid. Or maybe all three of them, with the nice chunk the government takes for itself off of child support payments for women on assistance.
Or, perhaps, the woman will consider her choice with these new factors in mind. That could happen too. I imagine it will depend on the woman.
He should think about this and wear protection at all times. If not, then he is responsible, regardless of what the woman decides to do.
And who says he didn't? Condoms aren't 100% effective.
Regardless, she still has no right to own his life for a decision SHE made.
He does not control his sperm any more than she controls her ova. You've said a woman "can't help" getting pregnant, but you think a man somehow dictates what his sperm do or whether the condom breaks in all cases? Do you read what you write?
Exactly, and I use the same argument with women. If you don't want to pay, then don't play. It's a simple concept. If you decide to play, then you realize what CAN result in such activities. You are giving your consent at the time of the act as you are aware.
Well, then you're wrong in both cases.
The fact that you think of children as a punishment on the parents is so callous I don't even know where to begin. Yes, you're obviously so concerned about the child.
So now you think he can force a woman to give her child up for adoption? Wow that's effing harsh. Grow a frigging heart will you? If a man has consensual sex with a woman and she gets pregnant as a result, he is responsible, regardless of whether or not he thinks it's "fair." LIFE isn't fair.
Uh, no. I think she can make her choice about that.
What I said is that a woman has a right to give up a child. There is no biological mandate that she care for it.
So why are you using biology as a way to deny men a right that women have? Women can and do give up their children. Why can't men?
I have no heart? You're the one who thinks children should be wielded as a punishment against people whose sex lives you disagree with.
This is true but changes nothing about what I said. BOTH are responsible. It just so happens that nature decided to make the woman the one to carry and bear the child. So cry to mother nature about how "unfair" it is. :roll:
It's true that she assumes full responsibility, but it doesn't change that he should have to pay for her choices and take on her responsibilities as though she were a child herself?
Mother nature has nothing to do with it. Mother nature is utterly silent on who "has" to care for a baby.
Of course not, that is why the man who chose to sleep with a woman and not protect himself is also responsible, regardless of what the woman's decision might be. If he doesn't like that, he should keep his trouser snake inside his trousers. SEX comes with consequences and they are not always "fair."
People whose sex lives erk you should be punished with a child they don't care for. Got it. I'm heartless. Right.
