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Do you carry one in the chamber?[W:26]

Do you carry with one in the chamber?


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Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

Was I talking to you? Scroll down and reply in your turn.

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Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

Last I checked, there wasn't a rule that you can't reply to whomever you wish on the forum.

Sorry, there's a bit of recent history between us. I'll tone it down.
 
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I have the luxury of owning lots of carry guns and the further luxury of being able to shoot 2-4 times a week including weekly "Steel matches" and a glock match here and there where I shoot (among other things) one of the small G 26. SO I can transition between my SW revolver (pure double action), my SIG 380 (Pure single action cocked and locked), Smith and wesson semis (safe action as they call it but my carry pieces -a SHIELD and a MP Compact both have the manual safeties on them) and a SW Bodyguard (the safety is so small I don't use it but the trigger is LONG and heavy like a revolver)

i want and would like to get out more but im just so busy, it takes a back seat to many other things
 
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i want and would like to get out more but im just so busy, it takes a back seat to many other things

I tell students that if they cannot practice constantly to stick with one gun so they don't have to think about the operation in a crisis. That's why I am a big fan of J frame revolvers. not much to go wrong and while most people can shoot say a compact auto (like a Glock 19) more accurately, I find the J frame revolvers far more reliable and more accurate than the micro autos (like the little Kahrs, the Kimber SOLOs or the Ruger LCPs)
 
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yes practicing common sense is a consideration in my life, weird huh LMAO

ive also made sure my daughter and i know first aid and CPR, we also have action plans for house emergencies and if she turns up in trouble/missing.

also just for further entertainment, whats "macho" about only having one arm? doesnt sound to macho to me lol

I mean i doubt any of this ever happens but say a dog is biting the other one or im grabbed from behind or injured some how? what good would my gun be then?

guess the "smarter" thing to do would be to not use common sense, you know like when people have heart pills in their glove box 300 yards away in their car, or mace with a child proof lid on it, buried in a purse LOL

you fail

No, I don't fail. I live somewhere else. I don't need to be always armed and ready to repel boarders. Or robbers or burglars.
 
Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

I don't keep a round in the chamber regardless of a safety, as I don't think it's a safe practice, but I tend to be overly cautious, since that's what I was taught.


My Dad tended to load revolvers with an empty chamber under the hammer, as an extra safety precaution. This was probably something HIS father taught him, from the days when revolvers mostly lacked internal safety mechanisms to prevent accidental discharge from something hitting the hammer... and it goes back further to cap-and-ball revolvers too.


But it really isn't necessary with modern firearms. As long as you keep your finger outside the trigger guard, an AD is extremely improbable.
 
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I tell students that if they cannot practice constantly to stick with one gun so they don't have to think about the operation in a crisis. That's why I am a big fan of J frame revolvers. not much to go wrong and while most people can shoot say a compact auto (like a Glock 19) more accurately, I find the J frame revolvers far more reliable and more accurate than the micro autos (like the little Kahrs, the Kimber SOLOs or the Ruger LCPs)

sounds like good advice and i agree
while im not expert ive done enough playing around and reading to know that there are just some guns that act differently and if you switch in a panic situation and arent prepared it may not work out well.

I knew a lady at work that bought a gun, a lady smith. SHe got it because of an abusive ex. We were talking about it one day and though she had it for 6 months she never shot it or any gun for that matter! I let her know thats the worse thing ever, that she is more likely to hurt herself or the wrong person. We shot together for a while, she got pretty good and she was glad she did because she admitted that without practice if she shot that in a panic she probably would have just dropped it after the first shot.

It amazes me sometimes how people get a gun and do nothing with it.
 
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My Dad tended to load revolvers with an empty chamber under the hammer, as an extra safety precaution. This was probably something HIS father taught him, from the days when revolvers mostly lacked internal safety mechanisms to prevent accidental discharge from something hitting the hammer... and it goes back further to cap-and-ball revolvers too.


But it really isn't necessary with modern firearms. As long as you keep your finger outside the trigger guard, an AD is extremely improbable.

and as I noted, an empty chamber UNDER the hammer of a revolver does not SLOW your response to an attack, it just means you have one less round

an empty chamber in a semi auto DOES slow up your response time
 
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sounds like good advice and i agree
while im not expert ive done enough playing around and reading to know that there are just some guns that act differently and if you switch in a panic situation and arent prepared it may not work out well.

I knew a lady at work that bought a gun, a lady smith. SHe got it because of an abusive ex. We were talking about it one day and though she had it for 6 months she never shot it or any gun for that matter! I let her know thats the worse thing ever, that she is more likely to hurt herself or the wrong person. We shot together for a while, she got pretty good and she was glad she did because she admitted that without practice if she shot that in a panic she probably would have just dropped it after the first shot.

It amazes me sometimes how people get a gun and do nothing with it.

I tell people a gun is like a scalpel -just buying one doesn't mean you can perform surgery with it
 
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1.) No, I don't fail.
2.)I live somewhere else.
3.) I don't need to be always armed and ready to repel boarders. Or robbers or burglars.

1.)yes your post was a total failure onthe topic at hand because it was all fantasy based on nonsense and assumptions instead of reality which was proven.
2.) doesn't matter where you live, ignoring common sense is always the wrong move, the topic is about "do you chamber"
3.) me neither, ill probably never have to use my gun in self defense but since i have a gun the smart thing to do is to no how to use it and have it ready in its best operational stage. again TOPIC based

Like i said your post was a total fail, next time simply ask a honest question and your learn something lol
 
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Seriously? This is a consideration in your life? Or is it just an indulgence of macho juvenile fantasies.



Those who are more casual CCW'ers tend to get criticized for not being sufficiently trained, sufficiently professional, etc, at get terms like "bubbas" and "gun toting rednecks" thrown at them. Those who DO get advanced training and take it very seriously get called walter-mitty types, macho fantasy ninjas or hyper-paranoid.

This sort of criticism typically comes from the hoplophobic crowd, or those whose life experience has simply never included a time when they feared for their life at the hands of a criminal, and don't understand the legitimate concern of those who have had that experience... so we might as well ignore it.


If you're going to carry, it is best to take it seriously and seek out quality training, and try to be the best CCW'er you reasonably can, given that most have limits on how much time and budget they can put into it.


Agent J's concerns about situations where he might only have one hand available are perfectly legitimate and reasonable questions to ask within the context of CCW self-defense.
 
Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

Those who are more casual CCW'ers tend to get criticized for not being sufficiently trained, sufficiently professional, etc, at get terms like "bubbas" and "gun toting rednecks" thrown at them. Those who DO get advanced training and take it very seriously get called walter-mitty types, macho fantasy ninjas or hyper-paranoid.

This sort of criticism typically comes from the hoplophobic crowd, or those whose life experience has simply never included a time when they feared for their life at the hands of a criminal, and don't understand the legitimate concern of those who have had that experience... so we might as well ignore it.


If you're going to carry, it is best to take it seriously and seek out quality training, and try to be the best CCW'er you reasonably can, given that most have limits on how much time and budget they can put into it.


Agent J's concerns about situations where he might only have one hand available are perfectly legitimate and reasonable questions to ask within the context of CCW self-defense.

Your analysis is sound and gun packers are damned by the anti defense crowd no matter what they do. But one of the reasons for the ridicule is that it involves self hating by the hoplophobes. Many anti rights advocates are fearful of their own lack of skill and courage and they see gun ownership as something that reminds them of their personal inadequacies. They ridicule gun carriers in an attempt to exorcise their own failings
 
Modern firearms do not pose a significant risk of accidental discharge. A simple bump, or even a major blow, to the gun will not cause the firing pin to contact the chambered round. Assuming that you will have two hands available to operate the slide is like assuming that you won't need the gun at all. If you should be carrying a gun then you should be carrying it ready to draw and fire.
 
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In answer to the OP, I always carry with a round in the chamber. My carry guns are DAO with internal safeties, no manual safety lever, and are in operation much like revolvers but with a lighter trigger. This is my preference since I grew up shooting revolvers. I've carried other types of autos and didn't much like SA or DA/SA or messing about with a manual safety. Given that DAO or LDA actions are what most professional agencies have gone to, there's a pretty established body of evidence that this is an effective action type.

When I was a cop, we carried with a round in the chamber also. A weapon that isn't ready to use is of dubious utility, given that trouble is often something that appears suddenly.
 
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No one should carry a gun position 1 except military, police, and someone actively expecting an impending assault. People walking around practicing lackadaisical gun safety habits is what causes accidents that are ultimately used as rationalization for gun bans. If gun owners aren't responsible and safe, it give people who oppose the 2nd Amendment more ammo, so to speak.
 
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No one should carry a gun position 1 except military, police, and someone actively expecting an impending assault. People walking around practicing lackadaisical gun safety habits is what causes accidents that are ultimately used as rationalization for gun bans. If gun owners aren't responsible and safe, it give people who oppose the 2nd Amendment more ammo, so to speak.

that's just plain silly.

If I am EXPECTING AN ASSAULT I will be behind cover with a SHOTGUN Or a rifle.

I carry a pistol because you never know when an attack might come
 
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1.)yes your post was a total failure onthe topic at hand because it was all fantasy based on nonsense and assumptions instead of reality which was proven.
2.) doesn't matter where you live, ignoring common sense is always the wrong move, the topic is about "do you chamber"
3.) me neither, ill probably never have to use my gun in self defense but since i have a gun the smart thing to do is to no how to use it and have it ready in its best operational stage. again TOPIC based

Like i said your post was a total fail, next time simply ask a honest question and your learn something lol

Okay, here's an honest question- do you live in Mogadishu? 'Cause, if you need to have a round in the chamber when you leave the house you must live somewhere extremely violent and very far from somewhere safer.
 
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Sixteen in the clip and one in the hole. Nate Dogg is about to make some bodies turn cold.... :rock
 
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Okay, here's an honest question- do you live in Mogadishu? 'Cause, if you need to have a round in the chamber when you leave the house you must live somewhere extremely violent and very far from somewhere safer.


You don't have to live in Somalia, or Chicago for that matter, to suffer very severe consequences from being victimized by a criminal and not be prepared to defend your life and person. This is demonstrated every day in every state in the union, and every province of Canada, and indeed almost everywhere.

The odds may vary, but even if the odds are long that is of no comfort whatsoever to the unlucky one who gets targeted by a criminal who cannot spell compassion let alone exhibit any.


Some of us have experienced these things first hand, or seen them impact people we care about; thus we are passionate about being prepared to defend ourselves and those we love.


There is no "safe place" on the face of the earth, that is an illusion. The only real safety we have is that which we can provide for ourselves.
 
Re: Do you carry one in the chamber?

No one should carry a gun position 1 except military, police, and someone actively expecting an impending assault. People walking around practicing lackadaisical gun safety habits is what causes accidents that are ultimately used as rationalization for gun bans. If gun owners aren't responsible and safe, it give people who oppose the 2nd Amendment more ammo, so to speak.



This is an unnecessary level of safety where modern firearms are concerned, as long as one is well-versed in the basic Three Rules and practices them.
 
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Those who are more casual CCW'ers tend to get criticized for not being sufficiently trained, sufficiently professional, etc, at get terms like "bubbas" and "gun toting rednecks" thrown at them. Those who DO get advanced training and take it very seriously get called walter-mitty types, macho fantasy ninjas or hyper-paranoid.

This sort of criticism typically comes from the hoplophobic crowd, or those whose life experience has simply never included a time when they feared for their life at the hands of a criminal, and don't understand the legitimate concern of those who have had that experience... so we might as well ignore it.


If you're going to carry, it is best to take it seriously and seek out quality training, and try to be the best CCW'er you reasonably can, given that most have limits on how much time and budget they can put into it.


Agent J's concerns about situations where he might only have one hand available are perfectly legitimate and reasonable questions to ask within the context of CCW self-defense.

Well, then, ignore what I say because I've never feared for my life at someone else's hands. I guarantee I wouldn't keep my family in a place that didn't feel safe to me.
I'll ask you what I asked him, do you live in Mogadishu? Or are you imagining monsters under the bed?
 
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1.) Okay, here's an honest question- do you live in Mogadishu?
2.) 'Cause, if you need to have a round in the chamber when you leave the house you must live somewhere extremely violent and very far from somewhere safer.

1.) nope
2.) factually not true
 
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This is an unnecessary level of safety where modern firearms are concerned, as long as one is well-versed in the basic Three Rules and practices them.

Handling a firearm with a round chambers is where firearm accidents come from. It's just one step closer to accidentally shooting someone and becoming the new poster child for egregious gun bans.
 
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Well, then, ignore what I say because I've never feared for my life at someone else's hands. I guarantee I wouldn't keep my family in a place that didn't feel safe to me.
I'll ask you what I asked him, do you live in Mogadishu? Or are you imagining monsters under the bed?


No sir. I am a former law enforcement officer. My experiences have brought me to the belief that the concept of "Oh, I live in a safe neighborhood" is largely an illusion, and that there are no guarantees of safety anywhere except that which you create. Given the severity of the consequences of being unprepared, consequences which I have all too often seen with my own eyes, I choose to take responsibility for my own protection and that of my family.

And yes, I've dealt with potentially dangerous situations as a civilian where I was very glad to be armed.


No macho fantasies involved, just pragmatic choices based on life experience.
 
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