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commiting suicide ?

thougts about suicide

  • l never attempted to commit suicide

    Votes: 33 36.7%
  • l tried to commit suicide once

    Votes: 5 5.6%
  • l tried to commit suicide more than once

    Votes: 5 5.6%
  • l thought about commiting suicide but never attempted

    Votes: 28 31.1%
  • l never thought about commiting suicide

    Votes: 26 28.9%
  • l usually tend to commit suicide but always prevent myself

    Votes: 3 3.3%
  • other

    Votes: 9 10.0%

  • Total voters
    90
There were plenty of times in my life where I wanted too but I never actually tried. I just couldnt do that too my friends and family.
 
some are born with a self destruct mechanism which can be almost insurmountable at times. the creative, tempestuous personality is especially vulnerable. all i will say is that i have a lot of empathy, and i think that it's absolutely a mistake. understanding this doesn't completely solve the problem, but it's insight that needs to be applied during all dark nights of the soul.

A lecturer once told me that suicide is made so as to either make everyone else feel bad about influencing (or not doing enough to stop) suicide, or to manipulate and gain something out of it dramatically. So though your empathy is nice you could be manipulated into being asked for things more than what you could deliver.
 
No to suicide. I'd prefer to find some noble cause faced with overwhelming odds and little hope of success and get killed that way, if life became unbearable.

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Or jump on front of a bullet to save another more worthy non suicidal (like you) person:

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Considered joining the secret service with that? I know I did after watching the movie and feeling suicidal during my teen angst :mrgreen:
 
The one thing every human on the planet should be in charge of is their own body, their own life, their own choices. It is not for us to judge when, why and how life has become utterly unbearable for someone else. Shaming them by warning them how their loved ones will suffer is particularly cruel. All of us WILL die, and when we do our loved ones WILL suffer. Will they suffer less if we die slowly, over a period of months, slowly suffocating as our lungs give out, or crying in agony as cancer consumes us, or so awash in despair after decades of hopelessness and mental ravagement over which they have no control? They can grieve now, or they can grieve later... when they grieve should be my choice, not theirs.

It infuriates me when people flippantly toss out the word "coward" to describe an anguish they personally have never endured, and could never, ever understand. How dare you judge someone else's pain, someone else's life? You are not in their skin, not in their mind, don't suffer their agony. You cannot know what they live with, and what's worse, you obviously don't even care. Just shrug, call them cowards, and feel like you are their moral and mortal superior.

Until some day it is you who is dying by inches, suffering beyond your wildest imagination, and some cold, self-righteous ass looks you in the eye, calls you a coward for wanting the agony to end, calls you selfish for not thinking of those you leave behind, stares at you as if you are nothing more than a piece of meat that has no right to make decisions for itself.

In answer to the poll, yeah, I've obviously thought a lot about suicide, because I for one will not spend my final months strapped to a respirator, gasping, waiting for the breath to finally stop, and the torture to finally end. It will not end that way for me. I will choose when, how, and where, and I will do so while I still have dignity. To those who call me a coward, may you never end up as I and so many others will... until then, **** you and your self-absorbed, ignorant hubris.

Though I understand you anger, showing apathy to suicide may turn their anger from their self to that of the apathetic person. I do not know if it is the case but perhaps it worked with you?

If some suicidal people use their condition to make everyone either feel bad or give in to their demands then a plain ruthless "I do not give a damn" may do the trick. That is all I am saying.
 
Med? You okay girl?

Any suicidal person with difficult nights can PM me. We can talk about it.
 
If some suicidal people use their condition to make everyone either feel bad or give in to their demands then a plain ruthless "I do not give a damn" may do the trick. That is all I am saying.

Any suicidal person with difficult nights can PM me. We can talk about it.

Refer them to the nearest mental health agency. It's not up to you or any other lay person to figure out whether to tell then you don't give a damn or to save then via private messages.

The mere expression of suicidality means the person is definitely not 100% serious, and potentially as little as 0% serious, but whatever the case my be, refer them to an in-person mental health professional.
 
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Refer them to the nearest mental health agency. It's not up to you or any other lay person to figure out whether to tell then you don't give a damn or to save then via private messages.

The mere expression of suicidality means the person is definitely not totally serious, and possibly not at all serious. Whatever the case my be, refer them to an in-person mental health professional.

Yes, those were my intentions if they were serious. I cannot handle a serious suicidal person nor would I want to. I would have became a therapist if I could bare such pressure.
 
Yes, those were my intentions if they were serious. I cannot handle a serious suicidal person nor would I want to. I would have became a therapist if I could bare such pressure.

There isn't much pressure, surprisingly. Therapists are required to petition for involuntary psychiatric hospitalization if they're convinced a patient is serious. When this petition is granted, the local police will typically do the dirty work of detaining a person to bring them in for involuntary treatment. It sucks, but when the alternative is death with a possible negligence lawsuit from bereaved/pissed/greedy family to boot, the procedure is pretty easy to justify and can happen somewhat smoothly in many communities.

That's your other option, by the way. If you know the person's whereabouts and can contact local law enforcement, ask for a welfare/safety check on the person. They'll swing by and bring the person in if it seems like there's an imminent mental health concern, or leave the person alone if there appears to not be. Then your liability is covered and due diligence was applied.
 
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There isn't much pressure, surprisingly. Therapists are required to petition for involuntary psychiatric hospitalization if they're convinced a patient is serious. When this petition is granted, the local police will typically do the dirty work of detaining a person to bring them in for involuntary treatment. It sucks, but when the alternative is death with a possible negligence lawsuit from bereaved/pissed/greedy family to boot, the procedure is pretty easy to justify and can happen somewhat smoothly in many communities.

That's your other option, by the way. If you know the person's whereabouts and can contact local law enforcement, ask for a welfare/safety check on the person. They'll swing by and bring the person in if it seems like there's an imminent mental health concern, or leave the person alone if there appears to not be. Then your liability is covered and due diligence was applied.

Are you a therapist?
 
But hey, I have learnt living with that paranoia.

If you are paranoid, that doesn't mean nobody is chasing you, GG. :lol:

P.S. I'm not trying to make fun of you, honest. :)
 
A lecturer once told me that suicide is made so as to either make everyone else feel bad about influencing (or not doing enough to stop) suicide, or to manipulate and gain something out of it dramatically. So though your empathy is nice you could be manipulated into being asked for things more than what you could deliver.

it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem in most cases. it's also like burning everyone else that you care about in a way that never completely heals, and you sort of fade away forever. being remembered like that is something that no one should want.

however, none of that is really at the forefront of the decision. as i said in another thread about this, describing it to someone who isn't programmed that way is like trying to explain what purple looks like to someone who can't see. the best advice i can give is that if you have this trait, promise yourself that at the darkest hour, you'll seek help before going through with it.
 
not a funny topic but a reality of this life

With the ME conflict and WW3 on the horizon, I think you won't have to commit suicide, if you are considering one, Medusa. Turkey will be cooked for Christmas. :mrgreen:
 
Cowardice.

This is erroneous and demonstrates that you neither understand mental illness nor the etiology of suicide. You might want to educate yourself on this issue.
 
not a funny topic but a reality of this life






you can vote freely ,l didnt click " make vote public ":mrgreen:

I had a hard time in my early teens, so I had considered it lightly from time to time. Never even remotely seriously considered it nor did I ever try.

Now I would absolutely never do it, no matter how bad things got, because I believe this life is all we have, so no matter how bad it gets, it's always better than the alternative.

The way I figure it, you have trillions and trillions of years to be dead, but only about 70-90 to be alive.
 
There isn't much pressure, surprisingly. Therapists are required to petition for involuntary psychiatric hospitalization if they're convinced a patient is serious. When this petition is granted, the local police will typically do the dirty work of detaining a person to bring them in for involuntary treatment. It sucks, but when the alternative is death with a possible negligence lawsuit from bereaved/pissed/greedy family to boot, the procedure is pretty easy to justify and can happen somewhat smoothly in many communities.

That's your other option, by the way. If you know the person's whereabouts and can contact local law enforcement, ask for a welfare/safety check on the person. They'll swing by and bring the person in if it seems like there's an imminent mental health concern, or leave the person alone if there appears to not be. Then your liability is covered and due diligence was applied.

Done all of these things several times. The key here is safety, both for the suicidal person and the treating provider. I would prefer to contact authorities and be WRONG then not and be wrong.
 
Cowardice.

That one has been invented by slave masters to control and manipulate the public.
If you were a slave master, what would be the first thing you would ban? Escape! After all, you need someone (slaves) to build pyramids and dig channels, and work the land, etc., etc.
 
I've never considered or attempted suicide up til now.

I might consider it in the future if I get Alzheimer's (which runs in my family) or if I have some incurable disease that's killing me slowly and painfully.
 
Medusa, if this is not just a conversational topic, and something you are considering, I hope you get help. This isn't something to take lightly. I give you alot of **** on this board, but I certainly wouldn't want you to do anything silly.

thanks İ appreciate your care but this thread is not about me :lol:
 
Never tried, never will. People who commit suicide are cowards (outside of those suffering from painful and/or debilitating diseases).


Ummmm....you really and honestly have no idea about this do you?

Mental health issues are often times not things that cowardice or courage have any relationship with.

Please don't try to broad-brush something as serious as suicide with a simple black & white statement of non-fact.
 
not..
I decided a long time ago there isn't someone or something that's worth taking my life over..

when someone or something upsets me I just plot to get even..
 
I do not believe lizzie would be offended by my post. If you were personally offended, I apologize... but I said what I meant and I meant what I said.

Of course I'm not offended, Di. Your scenario description, and the one that I alluded to in my earlier posts, have little in common. You are referring to someone who is chronically and terminally ill. I am referring to people who are in the depths of clinical depression, not based on chronic illness, but born of psychological dysfunction and neurotransmitter/ brain chemistry problems. If my loved one was terminally ill, and did not want to suffer any longer, I would find it much easier to accept their suicide than that of my loved one who was young and otherwise healthy, but was having difficulty with reality perception. Either way, that choice is ultimately up to the person who commits suicide. I just speak from the standpoint of one who has been on the other end of it, and who had to deal with the carnage and pain that it causes for the survivors. That is the primary reason that, although I have been extremely depressed, I controlled the urge to end it all.
 
Suicide is one of the very few things in Japanese culture I frown upon. They saw 自殺 (self + kill) as more honorable than being captured by an enemy. I see it as an immediate ticket to hell.
 
I see it as an immediate ticket to hell.

So you think some "loving god" would punish a person with eternity in hell simply because they suffer from a severe mental health condition?

That's somewhat like suggesting god would send a person to hell who gets cancer and dies from it.

Sad.
 
That is the primary reason that, although I have been extremely depressed, I controlled the urge to end it all.

That's the difference in a nut shell isn't it?

There's no defined line where one can control the urge and one can't.

Once someone passes that line all bets are off.

And each mind, body, soul places that line in a different spot.

Some women can over-come being raped and go on to lead a productive life.
Other's can't.

Are you suggesting that since some can "get passed it" that all should be able to?
 
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