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Would you vote for an Atheist?

Would you vote for or consider voting for an Atheist for any public office?

  • Yes

    Votes: 62 89.9%
  • No

    Votes: 7 10.1%

  • Total voters
    69
If I were an attendee of a church, and I am not, I would have every right to be upset if the preacher was an atheist..
I'd weakly prefer my political leader/Representative not to be a Muslim....but this matters less and less every day..
I do NOT want any extremist - these people are a serious problem...
 
The lesser of two evils is still evil. And you're throwing out atheists not because they are "evil" but because you THINK they are evil; all the while supporting our descent into hell. Good job.

I never said atheist are evil. Why put words in my mouth? Is your argument so weak that is the only way you can present it?
 
I never said atheist are evil. Why put words in my mouth? Is your argument so weak that is the only way you can present it?

You said you wouldn't vote for atheists because they don't have a moral compass and when I pointed out that others already in office often lack the same thing, you claim you have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Making the phony Christians the lesser evil and Atheists the greater evil.

Can you remember the things you wrote a few posts back?
 
I'll vote for whoever matches me best on the issues, but I'd actually really prefer my candidates to be atheist. With religious candidates you always have to worry if they'll place their god or religion above their constituents. Some politicians will even go out of their way to make sure you know their god comes first. Their sole and only responsibility should be to the American people.

A "like" and oh so true..particularly in the land of Islam.......here....not much of a problem, IMO.
 
You said you wouldn't vote for atheists because they don't have a moral compass and when I pointed out that others already in office often lack the same thing, you claim you have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Making the phony Christians the lesser evil and Atheists the greater evil.

Can you remember the things you wrote a few posts back?

Your interpretation of my post is flawed.
 
Your interpretation of my post is flawed.

It's exactly as you said, if you meant something else you should have written something else. IYO Atheists compose the greater evil and you cannot support them against already established and demonstrated evil because somehow being an atheist will be worse than the liars and cheats already in office. Your argument, not mine.
 
It's exactly as you said, if you meant something else you should have written something else. IYO Atheists compose the greater evil and you cannot support them against already established and demonstrated evil because somehow being an atheist will be worse than the liars and cheats already in office. Your argument, not mine.
I'm getting tired of trying to have adult discussions with people that just come here for childish bickering, have a nice day.:2wave:
 
Religion or the lack there of has never been important to me with any political candidate. It is his views on the issues and whether I can trust him, if I feel he will do honor to the office and do the best job. The same goes for political parties or the lack there of too, party affiliation is not important, it is the individual running.

how about a "she"? :)
 
No moral compass, no vote.

why do you have to believe in God to have a moral compass? Most of the atheists I know, both conservative and liberal (and I know quite a few), definitely have moral compasses. And I think we agree that there are many, many believers who have none.
 
I'm getting tired of trying to have adult discussions with people that just come here for childish bickering, have a nice day.:2wave:

So insult and running away is all you got? Thought so. That was your argument, you made it here. Your argument doesn't seem all that sound when taken on whole is all. Sorry that you didn't like your own argument.
 
why do you have to believe in God to have a moral compass? Most of the atheists I know, both conservative and liberal (and I know quite a few), definitely have moral compasses. And I think we agree that there are many, many believers who have none.

What does an atheist base his morals on besides mans law?
 
So insult and running away is all you got? Thought so. That was your argument, you made it here. Your argument doesn't seem all that sound when taken on whole is all. Sorry that you didn't like your own argument.

You just don't seem to want honest conversation so I have no time for you, not an insult but an observation.
 
Sometimes I get burned out on the thought of a "god" whatever that is. All the suffering in the world at times makes me think their just can't be a caring God so I quit my morning prayer. After a while things start seeming bleak though so I start to pray again and immediately things are better so it works for me.

I suspect it works for you because when you start to pray you believe it'll help and you (not some deity) make things happen (instead of wallowing in self pity) ...
 
When I thought about doing this poll, I thought that most Americans still wouldn't. But the poll I looked up to post this has apparently changed that information:
Majority Of Americans Would Vote For An Atheist For President (POLL)

I would like to ask as a DP poll though, would you vote for or consider voting for an Atheist in any public office, not just the Presidency.

As a discussion point, I believe there are six states that do not allow Atheists to hold public office, even though that is against the US constitution.

Also as an Atheist, my vote is naturally yes.
We have already voted for several virtual atheists. Hillary goes to church 2-3 times every election cycle...and thats the extent of her religious belief. Obama went to church in Chicago because thats what the popular black folk did in Chicago.

Id vote for an atheist if his or her policies were fiscally responsible and had a positive impact on the economy, if they were a strong leader, and accepted responsibly their role as commander in chief.
 
What does an atheist base his morals on besides mans law?

Where do you think "gods laws" came from?

Human morality is rooted in our intelligence and empathy, that doesn't vanish just because one doesn't believe in your god.
 
A "like" and oh so true..particularly in the land of Islam.......here....not much of a problem, IMO.

I think it's very much a problem here. Why is gay marriage still not legal in most places? The religious right claiming god hates gays. Look around, there are sin laws all over the place, like counties that are dry or where you can't buy alcohol on sundays.

Religion has no place in government whatsoever, and we have presidents telling us god wanted them to be president.

What does an atheist base his morals on besides mans law?

I base mine on being a good person and doing no harm. I don't need the threat of eternal hellfire to keep me in line, I inherently recognize that life is precious and that harming your fellow man is bad.

So in short, I base the entirety of my morality on the golden rule.
 
You just don't seem to want honest conversation so I have no time for you, not an insult but an observation.

I was trying, but you ran off when presented with your own argument. It's hard to have a conversation when one runs away like that.
 
You don't have to believe in Jesus to agree with the golden rule

I have a theory on that. To me if you adhere to Christian values you are by default a Christian, you just don't realize it. I don't buy this crap that you have to accept Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior, blah blah blah.
 
What does an atheist base his morals on besides mans law?

Do you need to believe in God in order to care about other human beings, to be responsible, etc.? I'm an agnostic, as is my wife, and we have two sons who are agnostics as well (although we always told them that it was up to them to believe in God, etc.), and both have moral compasses that any parent, Christian or atheist, would be proud of. What do they base their morals on do you think?
 
I have a theory on that. To me if you adhere to Christian values you are by default a Christian, you just don't realize it. I don't buy this crap that you have to accept Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior, blah blah blah.

Umm if you believe there is no god how can you be Christian?

*edit* the golden rule was not an invention of Jesus either it has been around much longer and espoused by many religions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule
 
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I have a theory on that. To me if you adhere to Christian values you are by default a Christian, you just don't realize it. I don't buy this crap that you have to accept Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior, blah blah blah.

Christianity revolves around the acceptance of the one true god and that jesus is our savior come from heaven to forgive your sins. That's the definition. If you don't believe in Jesus and God and all that, then you cannot be Christian even if you share similar morality. Furthermore, the morality reflected in Christianity is just the morality that evolved in our Western cultures and that we wrote into our religions for societal reinforcement.
 
I have a theory on that. To me if you adhere to Christian values you are by default a Christian, you just don't realize it. I don't buy this crap that you have to accept Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior, blah blah blah.

Then I guess you either don't believe in the bible or have simply never read it. Jesus said the only way to heaven is through him. If you don't accept christ as your savior, you are NOT a christian.
 
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