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Should we go into Syria

Should we go into Syria

  • Yes, the red line has been crossed

    Votes: 23 13.9%
  • No way Jose, not our problem

    Votes: 143 86.1%

  • Total voters
    166
I equate it with proof of not finding anything.


We could conjecture all day. You're looking for an out. There isn't one. His conduct was shameful. He betrayed America. He's been widely condemned by the international community. There have even been calls for him to stand trial for war crimes. Not that it will ever happen, of course.

LOL...

Wow...

You should see someone for your Bush hate issues.

Facts are facts. Saddam did have WMD and did not show disposition of them, as required.

Until you familiarize yourself with the UN resolutions, Clinton's "Regime Change" police for Iraq, and other facts, I'm done wasting my time with you on this.
 
LOL...

Wow...

You should see someone for your Bush hate issues.

Facts are facts. Saddam did have WMD and did not show disposition of them, as required.

Until you familiarize yourself with the UN resolutions, Clinton's "Regime Change" police for Iraq, and other facts, I'm done wasting my time with you on this.
Those damnable facts, eh dude? Damn them to hell! So infuriatingly intractable. lulz
 
Of all the mistakes Hitler made, declaring war on the USA was the greatest. The "iso" Congress led by the Prescott Bushies of the Nation had tied FDR's hands. Meanwhile, European countries and the Jews paid the price. Would the state of Israel have been necessary if Congress had preempted Hitler?
 
Would the state of Israel have been necessary if Congress had preempted Hitler?
It was never 'necessary'. Are you a Zionist?
 
I'm not for isolationism, but I am for responsible use of our power. Taking sides with the rebels is not responsible.

I agree 100%, which is why Obama should have kept his pie hole shut. However, you can't walk out in the middle of a fight.
 
History says different due to the concentration camps 'we' ignored.

I am the son of a WW II Veteran and a British Mother who lived through Hitler's bombing of London.

Dad really changed with TDYs to Vietnam to do supply and then escort the fallen to the Families.

It was never 'necessary'. Are you a Zionist?
 
History says different due to the concentration camps 'we' ignored.
History records only that the state of Israel was created after the war. Furthermore, that no such state would have been created had it not been for the war. And who's 'we'? We actually declared war from the very beginning, remember? We fought for two years before you guys were dragged into it, kicking and screaming. You ignored them. We didn't.

I am the son of a WW II Veteran and a British Mother who lived through Hitler's bombing of London.

Dad really changed with TDYs to Vietnam to do supply and then escort the fallen to the Families.
I'm not sure how that's relevant, but okay. That's cool.
 
'We' is the United States, but you couldn't tell that to the mostly unguarded merchant marines. 'We' waited too long, causing a much more difficult war once Hitler had to declare it on us, and only because of Pearl Harbor.
History records only that the state of Israel was created after the war. Furthermore, that no such state would have been created had it not been for the war. And who's 'we'? We actually declared war from the very beginning, remember? We fought for two years before you guys were dragged into it, kicking and screaming. You ignored them. We didn't.


I'm not sure how that's relevant, but okay. That's cool.
 
Are you two just making this stuff up as you go along or do you think the history of WWII is a state secret?
oh I get it yer re-writing it ok proceed
 
'We' is the United States, but you couldn't tell that to the mostly unguarded merchant marines. 'We' waited too long, causing a much more difficult war once Hitler had to declare it on us, and only because of Pearl Harbor.
Apologies. I assumed.
 
Are you two just making this stuff up as you go along or do you think the history of WWII is a state secret?
oh I get it yer re-writing it ok proceed
Look, it's no problem with me if you want to sit in a corner gibbering to yourself. But maybe you've had enough now, and you should go sleep it off?

All I'm sayin'.
 
I just slammed a double shot crapachino mang I'm just gettin' started
 
Before we entered both World Wars when that "other" party was partial to the Germans.

Hmmm... do you think the USA should have sent in troops and declared war on Germany sooner?
 
History records only that the state of Israel was created after the war. Furthermore, that no such state would have been created had it not been for the war. And who's 'we'? We actually declared war from the very beginning, remember? We fought for two years before you guys were dragged into it, kicking and screaming. You ignored them. We didn't.


I'm not sure how that's relevant, but okay. That's cool.

Yeah, but then "you" were pricking Germany around constantly - and don't pretend that your country gave a damn about the Jews.

Besides, by Germany kicking every other country's ass until we got into it, the great European empires fell and the USA ended up King of the Hill economically and militarily. FDR was no great fan of the European empires.

Two countries won WWII. #1 - the USA. #2 the USSR/Russia. Everyone else lost. :)
 
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Absolutely. How many of our merchant marines needed to sink on the oceans along with the supplies? Not to mention Hitler breaking every agreement he signed onto. With an Axis of Germany, Italy and Japan? And to think it took FDR turning off the oil spigot. I'm waiting for: Obama = Chaimberlain = appeaser
Hmmm... do you think the USA should have sent in troops and declared war on Germany sooner?
 
Yeah, but then "you" were pricking Germany around constantly - and don't pretend that your country gave a damn about the Jews.
I'm under no illusions. Beyond pretexts, states don't go to war over humanitarian issues. The Third Reich's persecution of it's native Jewry had proceeded steadily for over a decade, prior to hostilities.

Were we pricking them around when we declared war?
 
Yeah, but then "you" were pricking Germany around constantly - and don't pretend that your country gave a damn about the Jews.

Besides, by Germany kicking every other country's ass until we got into it, the great European empires fell and the USA ended up King of the Hill economically and militarily. FDR was no great fan of the European empires.

Two countries won WWII. #1 - the USA. #2 the USSR/Russia. Everyone else lost. :)
Nice edit.

Russia won the war. You guys just try to cash in on the glory.

You kinda lose points for casually looking on while others fought. :)
 
I agree 100%, which is why Obama should have kept his pie hole shut. However, you can't walk out in the middle of a fight.
What does this mean? Do you mean that Americans must fight and possibly die because the fool in the White House is a complete idiot?

And why should Americana taxpayers have to pay out a few hundreds of millions of dollars so that one idiot can feel good about himself?
 
Holy cow ... Obama just said HE didn't set a red line but the WORLD set a red line ... yesterday Pelosi said essentially the same thing.
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He's looking mighty bad.
Rambling.
Defensive.
 
What does this mean? Do you mean that Americans must fight and possibly die because the fool in the White House is a complete idiot?

No. Though it's worth noting that the reason he is there is because we put him there, and we have no one to blame but ourselves.

But what is at stake here is not whether or not Obama get's to feel like he demonstrated testicular fortitude (though that might be important in his mind) - it is the worth of the U.S. security guarantee. Like a reputation, that value is relatively low-cost to maintain, but very high-cost to win back.
 
Nice edit.

Russia won the war. You guys just try to cash in on the glory.

You kinda lose points for casually looking on while others fought. :)
Wow, that is some revisionist history.
How were things going for a Russian invasion to Germany after Stalingrad?
Russia came swooping in after Germany had been beaten back to its own borders.
 
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