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Should we go into Syria

Should we go into Syria

  • Yes, the red line has been crossed

    Votes: 23 13.9%

  • No way Jose, not our problem

    Votes: 143 86.1%
  • Total voters
    166
Now this somewhat disagree with my last post, but another piece of food for thought:

Syrian chemical weapons may shed light on Saddam's missing WMDs

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In 2006, Georges Sada, a former general of Saddam’s air force, detailed in his book, “Saddam’s Secrets,” how Saddam had secretly moved much of his WMD material to Syria before the U.S.-led invasion under the cover of providing relief to Syrian earthquake victims.
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In 2004, a Syrian defector, Nizar Nayouf claimed that Iraqi WMDs had been hidden at three sites in Syria.
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This means that if Iraqi stockpiles were transferred to Syria prior to 2003 they could still be lethal.
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AngryOldGuy said:
I thought everyone already knew that ol Saddam shipped his stuff to Syria ;)
isn't that ancient news? (of course it helps to be ancient and paying attention these last 40+ years?)
no nimby this is all a smokescreen it will be voted down for sure and...
then...
wait for it...
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Bush haters refuse to even consider this a possibility, no matter how many sources confirm it. they want to continue to claim Saddam had no WMD, that invading Iraq was meaningless.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Bush haters refuse to even consider this a possibility, no matter how many sources confirm it. they want to continue to claim Saddam had no WMD, that invading Iraq was meaningless.
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Now they're going to say you're a conspiracy theorist. ;)
 
Lord of Planar said:
Food for thought.

Syria is getting help from Iran.

The rebels are getting help from Al-Qaeda.

Do we really want to get involved?

Something else...

Iraq and Iran are historical enemies. If general Georges Sada is to be believed (and I do believe him) then Saddam probably shipped his WMD to the rebels when it went across the border to Syria.
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Fact is, if we all pull drag up a rock and break out the marshmallows, we can all tell ghost stories.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Bush haters refuse to even consider this a possibility, no matter how many sources confirm it. they want to continue to claim Saddam had no WMD, that invading Iraq was meaningless.
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There was no compelling evidence to the contrary. Bush admitted as much later on. All we had was Bush playing cowboy, and illegally so, in contravention of a UN veto.
 
Food for thought:

 
NoC_T said:
There was no compelling evidence to the contrary. Bush admitted as much later on. All we had was Bush playing cowboy, and illegally so, in contravention of a UN veto.
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Please refresh my memory. I don't recall Bush saying Saddam didn't have WMD.

Link please.
 
Why the double standard with Republican Senators now. Could it be ODS?
 
How about if all this fumbling about with our foreign policy by our man-child President
results in another 9-11 sized attack just prior to the mid-term elections? Hmmm?
 
Lord of Planar said:
Please refresh my memory. I don't recall Bush saying Saddam didn't have WMD.

Link please.
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Bush later said that the biggest regret of his presidency was "the intelligence failure" in Iraq,[17] while the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration "misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq".[18] A key CIA informant in Iraq admitted that he lied about his allegations, "then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war"

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's an admission, my friend. Albeit one hedged with noncommittal cowardice.
 
Does it make a difference that folks like Bill Kristol and Sen. McCain are not acting like the enemies within? And does it now make a difference that Israel and its lobbies are pushing for USA action?
 
The Israelis are gonna end up having to nuke Iran one of these days, it's going to be quite grand.
 
AngryOldGuy said:
How about if all this fumbling about with our foreign policy by our man-child President
results in another 9-11 sized attack just prior to the mid-term elections? Hmmm?
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WOT, dude. Yay!
 
NoC_T said:
Bush later said that the biggest regret of his presidency was "the intelligence failure" in Iraq,[17] while the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration "misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq".[18] A key CIA informant in Iraq admitted that he lied about his allegations, "then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war"

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's an admission, my friend. Albeit one hedged with noncommittal cowardice.
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I really hate it when people like you misrepresent the facts. Do you even understand what you are doing?

The source of your weaki link:

Media tout Bush's purported candor in ABC interview, ignoring substantial evidence to the contrary

He never said there was no WMD.
 
NoC_T said:
The facts? Like those concerning the inability of the weapons inspectors to find anything damning?


lulz

Alright, man.
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Play the video. It only confirms they didn't find any. He never says they didn't have any.

If you are going to let the commentators form your opinions, then you are just their parrot.
 
apdst said:
I don't disagree that this is nothing more than a wag the dog mission, but it will cost American lives in the future if there isn't decisive action taken.

Without credible action, it will send a message to Iran, Russia, China and every other wack-job around the globe that they can do anything they want and we're just going to flap our gums. The isolationism thing doesn't work. It never has. I think that the isolationist folks are going to learn that lesson the hard way, unless Obama successfully gets the point across to the bad guys.
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When has the USA ever done the "isolationist thing?"
 
Before we entered both World Wars when that "other" party was partial to the Germans.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Play the video. It only confirms they didn't find any. He never says they didn't have any.
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How could he, since they didn't find any?

If you are going to let the commentators form your opinions, then you are just their parrot.
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How about facts? They didn't find anything.
 
NoC_T said:
How could he, since they didn't find any?


How about facts? They didn't find anything.
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So, do you really equate not finding any as not having any just prior? I could go along with you if Saddam didn't delay the UN inspection teams as much as he did.

Why were the inspectors chronically delayed?
 
apdst said:
In the 1930's. Some folks wish we would do it now.
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I'm not for isolationism, but I am for responsible use of our power. Taking sides with the rebels is not responsible.
 
Lord of Planar said:
So, do you really equate not finding any as not having any just prior?
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I equate it with proof of not finding anything.

I could go along with you if Saddam didn't delay the UN inspection teams as much as he did.

Why were the inspectors chronically delayed?
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We could conjecture all day. You're looking for an out. There isn't one. His conduct was shameful. He betrayed America. He's been widely condemned by the international community. There have even been calls for him to stand trial for war crimes. Not that it will ever happen, of course.
 
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