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Should we go into Syria

Should we go into Syria

  • Yes, the red line has been crossed

    Votes: 23 13.9%

  • No way Jose, not our problem

    Votes: 143 86.1%
  • Total voters
    166
Lord of Planar said:
They will continue to get worse as we have aided the Arab Spring.

The countries before Obomba have pretty well kept their people under control. Granted, not completely, but once this Arab Spring started, and Oboma supported it, and liberals are known to aid under the guise of human rights...

Think about it. These shaky governments have become so much worse. Once the rebels started to claim Gaddafi was attacking innocent people, we helped them... Funny how many of the videos I saw leading up to this had the innocent civilians carrying assault rifles... The rebels. A civil war that would have been ended quickly, went on to be devastating to Libya.

I wasn't keeping track of what happened before that, but I recall Obomba giving the thumbs up to the rebels. It was all for that feel-good-touchy-feely liberal reasons.

As much as (probably) all of us hate countries like Syria, that was a stable country until recently.

I can say with confidence, Obomba is to blame. We should have never aided the Arab Spring. This will haunt us in the future.
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social media played a bigger part in the arab spring then any action of the us government.
 
don't blame Boosch
blame facebook :lamo
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
social media played a bigger part in the arab spring then any action of the us government.
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Are you suggesting our threats and financial aid to the rebels didn't matter?

Are you suggesting that elimination of Gaddafi's ability to squash the rebels in his country didn't matter?

Tell me. Have we participated in making the Middle East a better or worse place?
 
Lord of Planar said:
This will haunt us in the future.
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Oh dude like you prolly can't even begin to fathom ;) I don't mind soundling like
some right wing tinfoil hat wearing nutjob

This is the beginning of world war three ;)
Sad thing is it will be history repeating when it's the GOP who will be left to clean up the mess a Demonrat made.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Are you suggesting our threats and financial aid to the rebels didn't matter?

Are you suggesting that elimination of Gaddafi's ability to squash the rebels in his country didn't matter?

Tell me. Have we participated in making the Middle East a better or worse place?
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Well, as far as Iraq is concerned, it's only been a couple of years since we pulled out. Even though things have not been great there, I would like to give it some more time and see what happens. As for Afghanistan, we are still there and fighting, so things of course are bleak there.

I can't understand why people wouldn't understand the reasons why most of us would not want to get involved in Syria. The entire region is quite unstable and volatile right now, and we have plenty on our plate to worry about.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Are you suggesting our threats and financial aid to the rebels didn't matter?

Are you suggesting that elimination of Gaddafi's ability to squash the rebels in his country didn't matter?

Tell me. Have we participated in making the Middle East a better or worse place?
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i am talking about what started the arab spring movement as a movement.

mubarak could not silence the Egyptian people because they had access to social media, and the truly desperate dictators shut down the internet access and plunged their country's into a media blackout to keep the protests from spreading
 
ChrisL said:
I would like to give it some more time and see what happens.
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hunny they are currently killing each other by the semi-truckload but the lame stream media would rather not cover it as it would certainly reflect poorly on 'The One'
 
AngryOldGuy said:
Oh dude like you prolly can't even begin to fathom ;) I don't mind soundling like
some right wing tinfoil hat wearing nutjob

This is the beginning of world war three ;)
Sad thing is it will be history repeating when it's the GOP who will be left to clean up the mess a Demonrat made.
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I have pretty much stated the same thing. We are making things so much worse.
 
ChrisL said:
we have plenty on our plate to worry about.
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That is precisely why Obama has distracted with the non-threat of doing something in Syria, we have to chow down on a poo sammich when them guys return from vaca
 
AngryOldGuy said:
hunny they are currently killing each other by the semi-truckload but the lame stream media would rather not cover it as it would certainly reflect poorly on 'The One'
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Hmm. Maybe we left too soon. Perhaps when other countries or specifically "rebel fighters" want us to be involved in their battles, we should not only charge them to do so, but we should also make it a stipulation that we are allowed to occupy their country for as long as we feel necessary until we feel the country is stable enough to be functional without our assistance. Because obviously leaving them to their own devices is like leaving a two 2-year-old children unattended in a playpen together.
 
NO ONE IS THAT STUPID :lamo
 
ChrisL said:
Because obviously leaving them to their own devices is like leaving a two 2-year-old children unattended in a playpen together.
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autistic 2 year olds with AK's and RPGs?
 
Yeah lets stand around while people die . Country First Humans in general Second . How many people have to die before we help something is better than nothing
 
Un biased said:
Yeah lets stand around while people die . Country First Humans in general Second . How many people have to die before we help something is better than nothing
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Really?

Let's me get this strait. You want to take action so far more people die... Right?
 
Lord of Planar said:
Really?

Let's me get this strait. You want to take action so far more people die... Right?
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Is not like its not happening right . Chop a snakes head off and it will flail around uselessly . What kill a thousand people to save 10 thousand ( or more ) not that bad a deal
 
I'm all for killing those people by the bucket load
but there has to SOME reason for it?
Whacking Arabs for no good reason kinda makes as much sense as flying airliners into buildings?
 
Un biased said:
Is not like its not happening right . Chop a snakes head off and it will flail around uselessly . What kill a thousand people to save 10 thousand ( or more ) not that bad a deal
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It's not that simple with all the factions you have in the Middle-East, largely driven by religious differences. The best way to reduce the deaths is to support the strongest leader. Leaders in the ME have to be violent. That's the only thing that the leaders of the smaller groups respect. Our USA ideals are a sign or weakness in their view.

Any idea how idiotic it is to view these nations by our values?
 
can you please not try to use grown up talk in this thread m'Lord?
 
Lord of Planar said:
It's not that simple with all the factions you have in the Middle-East, largely driven by religious differences. The best way to reduce the deaths is to support the strongest leader. Leaders in the ME have to be violent. That's the only thing that the leaders of the smaller groups respect. Our USA ideals are a sign or weakness in their view.

Any idea how idiotic it is to view these nations by our values?
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That is probably more truth than a lot of people can handle. However, I would prefer to not support any of those nuts. :)
 
Lord of Planar said:
It's not that simple with all the factions you have in the Middle-East, largely driven by religious differences. The best way to reduce the deaths is to support the strongest leader. Leaders in the ME have to be violent. That's the only thing that the leaders of the smaller groups respect. Our USA ideals are a sign or weakness in their view.

Any idea how idiotic it is to view these nations by our values?
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The best way to reduce deaths in the long run is strongly discourage actions by tyrants that are outright abusive by bombing them when they do. We are still in the Arab String. Just look at how the toppling of dictators by the people has done good for democracy. Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya have overthrown their tyrants. Syria could be next.
 
tell that to the 100,000 dead Syrians ?
 
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