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Should these teens be tried as adults

Should the 15 and 16 year old also be tried as adults

  • yes and throw away the key

    Votes: 72 87.8%
  • no, they deserve a second chance

    Votes: 10 12.2%

  • Total voters
    82
That is NOT an adult decision. An adult would decide NOT to do that. Children are children no matter what you want to make them into.

You wouldn't mind them living next door to you?
You'd let your kids hang out with them?
After all they're just "children", right?
 
The age in which a person makes adult decisions is not based on the legal (the law) age of adulthood. I've known people which were legally children and yet made more adult decisions than people who were legally adults.

Again, no healthy adult would make such poor decisions. These are not adults. They are kids with minds that are still child-like minds that are limited and still developing. Not that they're retarded, but it would be like sending a mentally challenged or "slow" person to death.
 
You wouldn't mind them living next door to you?
You'd let your kids hang out with them?
After all they're just "children", right?

I never said that they shouldn't be punished did I? Quit making stupid comments.
 
Again, no healthy adult would make such poor decisions. These are not adults. They are kids with minds that are still child-like minds that are limited and still developing. Not that they're retarded, but it would be like sending a mentally challenged or "slow" person to death.

They aren't healthy children... and they will grow into adults that aren't healthy and commit crimes.
 
What exactly would be the justification for putting these kids to death. I've heard absolutely NOTHING that would justify that. They killed someone? Is that why? Adults kill people and are NOT put to death.
 
What exactly would be the justification for putting these kids to death. I've heard absolutely NOTHING that would justify that. They killed someone? Is that why? Adults kill people and are NOT put to death.

Cold blooded murderers and rapists should be put to death... it is complete justification.
 
For heinous crimes like this... they are.

No they aren't. There are plenty of way more heinous murders than this where the convicted did NOT get the death penalty.
 
Taking a life, especially for no good reason, sounds exactly what a child would do. And two kids having sex when they are same age doesn't make them adults either. I won't say how young I was the first time I had actual intercourse but I had killed someone at that age no one would have even dreamed of charging me as an adult, since I was nothing of the kind. I think my bedtime was still 8:30 PM.

Sounds exactly what many if not all, serial killers do also. Are you saying that serial killers are children no matter their legal age? This is not about what age a person legally is. It is about thier decisions. Was the decision to kill an adult decision? That is the actual question. There are only two answers to it...Yes or no?

The same applies for having sex. Is it an adult decision to have sex? Yes or no? And please note that I never said that making an adult decision makes one legally an adult.
 
Again this is the prosecutor's side of the story. Are you familiar at all with goes on pre trial? The prosecutor is going to try to muddy the names of the accused and make them appear as guilty as humanly possible and taint public opinion. This is a strategy.

They will get their pretrial and I can only make decisions by what is known now.
 
That is NOT an adult decision. An adult would decide NOT to do that. Children are children no matter what you want to make them into.

And yet how many adults are currently in prison specifically for murder? Are you also saying that those killers are actually children despite their legal age of adulthood? Children may be children...but that does not preclude them from making adult decisions. Just as it does not preclude adults from making childish decisions.
 
Sounds exactly what many if not all, serial killers do also. Are you saying that serial killers are children no matter their legal age? This is not about what age a person legally is. It is about thier decisions. Was the decision to kill an adult decision? That is the actual question. There are only two answers to it...Yes or no?

The same applies for having sex. Is it an adult decision to have sex? Yes or no? And please note that I never said that making an adult decision makes one legally an adult.
No, and no.
 
A gun is not about defense. It's for killing something.

As for what I would do with guns, especially handguns, no one would have them unless they were going off to war. That's a very good place for a gun BTW, it's really good at killing people.

You are worrying too much on guns killing people and not on who gets killed by a gun. Bad guys get killed, good. Innocent people get killed, bad.
 
And yet how many adults are currently in prison specifically for murder? Are you also saying that those killers are actually children despite their legal age of adulthood? Children may be children...but that does not preclude them from making adult decisions. Just as it does not preclude adults from making childish decisions.

The decision these kids made was in no way an "adult" decision. If anything, it was an extremely childish decision. The position that this was an adult decision is beyond ridiculous.
 
That makes us the same as them.

Nope it doesn't. We have reasons to not want them among the living any more. Specifically to protect others from harm. As long as they live there is always a chance to do more harm. We on the other hand would never purposely for no reason or even for the "joy" (if there is such a thing) kill someone.
 
Here's an example of a TRULY heinous murderer who was spared the DP. So, save Gary because he is cooperating but kill 15 year olds. That's effing nuts.

Man Who Admitted To 48 Murders Will Serve Life Sentence In Exchange For Cooperation

In a plea agreement reached with Washington state prosecutors, Gary Ridgway, a Seattle-area man who admitted to 48 murders since 1982, will serve a sentence of life in prison without parole. Prosecutors spared Ridgway from execution in exchange for his cooperation in leading police to the remains of still-missing victims. (Associated Press, Nov. 5, 2003).
 
Nope it doesn't. We have reasons to not want them among the living any more. Specifically to protect others from harm. As long as they live there is always a chance to do more harm. We on the other hand would never purposely for no reason or even for the "joy" (if there is such a thing) kill someone.

It's murder, and premeditated too.
 
You're all nuts IMO.
 
Sounds exactly what many if not all, serial killers do also. Are you saying that serial killers are children no matter their legal age? This is not about what age a person legally is. It is about thier decisions. Was the decision to kill an adult decision? That is the actual question. There are only two answers to it...Yes or no?

The same applies for having sex. Is it an adult decision to have sex? Yes or no? And please note that I never said that making an adult decision makes one legally an adult.

You are wrong. A child is legally and actually a child by reason of their developmental progress toward adulthood. They must be tried as a child because they did what they did using a child's mind. Not possessing an adult mind, it is impossible for them to make adult decisions. Trying a child as an adult is an abominable misuse of the legal system. A desire for suitable revenge is not a valid reason to maltreat a minor.
 
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