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Should these teens be tried as adults

Should the 15 and 16 year old also be tried as adults

  • yes and throw away the key

    Votes: 72 87.8%
  • no, they deserve a second chance

    Votes: 10 12.2%

  • Total voters
    82
Other : it depends on what the crime was like murder or rape than yes they should be prosecuted as adults
 
Other : it depends on what the crime was like murder or rape than yes they should be prosecuted as adults
A child is still a child. It doesn't matter what the crime was. If a five-year-old finds a gun and shoots his little sister dead we don't charge him as an adult. That's because he isn't.
 
A child is still a child. It doesn't matter what the crime was. If a five-year-old finds a gun and shoots his little sister dead we don't charge him as an adult. That's because he isn't.

Yes but a 15 or 16 year old Should . The difference between the a 5 year old and a 16 year old is that a 16 year old knows better than to shoot his sister.
 
Yes but a 15 or 16 year old Should . The difference between the a 5 year old and a 16 year old is that a 16 year old knows better than to shoot his sister.
Knowing and doing are not the same things. We don't treat teenagers like adults, because they aren't.
 
First...Your opinion of what it "should be" is no more relevant than a pro-lifer feeling that abortion "Should be"....ie, it's not relevant, not when determining if a word is used properly. Your opinion doesn't change definitions nor make law.

Second...your statement wasn't specific to juveniles, but a broad one stating that someone sentenced to the death penalty is victim of state-sponsored murder.

So no...you're still wrong, and your link didn't actually prove otherwise in the least.

I disagree, when you lock someone up and leave a person essentially helpless and then the state gives them a lethal injection, that is effing murder. Play semantics all you want.
 
I say put them in with the general prison population where they can be passed around for a pack of smokes for the next 60 years of their lives.

death penalty for each, you just can't fix stupid and we should not waste taxpayer money trying
 
I don't support capital punishment except for acts of mass murder or other extreme depravity. Not sure whether this case would qualify. If my previous statement needs to be amended to account for that (and also situations like, for example, self defense), consider it amended.

From what I read, it cannot be applied.

Vengeance is the most barbaric form of justice.

We are not talking about vengeance but protecting the society from those who would kill for no reason.

Allow? It's not my choice. To call someone an adult at 18 is an idiotic line in the sand. It's pure unscientific crap.

In other words people cannot be held responsible for their actions due to their undeveloped brains.

We could try no guns? It was a bullet fired from a gun that killed him correct?

Blame the gun and not the killer?
 
A government license to have children? It sounds familiar?

And the guns, that's easy. We take them all and if you show up with one we use a flamethrower on you.

You do realize that most guns are used responsibly and it is the user not the gun that is the problem?
 
death penalty for each, you just can't fix stupid and we should not waste taxpayer money trying

Death penalty is more expensive.
 
Yes, it is because of the appeals process.
 
Yes, it is because of the appeals process.

And that is an important process that should never be denied any citizen. That would give the government power to kill at will, and leave the innocent with no avenues.
 
Yes, 15-year-old is exactly the same as an adult,
A 15-year-old is expected to know not to kill some one or be a party to kill some one for no reason.
only they have to go to school,
But not for long. Also many adults find that they will have to go to school for their careers.
they have a bedtime,
Yes, but they are not a pubescent and is not as strictly enforced.
and you can still spank them when they're naughty.
This is the 21st Century and parents that spank their kids can be brought up on charges. Even in Oklahoma.
 
Yes, 15-year-old is exactly the same as an adult, only they have to go to school,they have a bedtime,and you can still spank them when they're naughty.
This is the 21st Century and parents that spank their kids can be brought up on charges. Even in Oklahoma.
If they miss the part about a beating versus a spanking of course they can be. But tell me, are there many adults who can still find themselves over a parent's knee, stripped of their pants and underwear, being spanked with a hairbrush? That's a real possibility and an entirely legal thing that can happen to you, when you're a child that is.
 
Yes, and I also realize what a gun is for.


Yes, in the right hands (the vast majority), it is for the protection of life and property. In the wrong hands however, it is for murder, armed robbery, and mayhem.
 
Yes, in the right hands (the vast majority), it is for the protection of life and property. In the wrong hands however, it is for murder, armed robbery, and mayhem.
That's how it can be used, not what it is for. I can use a claw hammer for that but that's not what it's for.
 
If they miss the part about a beating versus a spanking of course they can be. But tell me, are there many adults who can still find themselves over a parent's knee, stripped of their pants and underwear, being spanked with a hairbrush? That's a real possibility and an entirely legal thing that can happen to you, when you're a child that is.

No, if a parent publicly spanks a child they can be brought up on charges. Again no, if a child is found to have welts by a doctor or a school nurse, the parent can be brought up on charges.
 
No, if a parent publicly spanks a child they can be brought up on charges. Again no, if a child is found to have welts by a doctor or a school nurse, the parent can be brought up on charges.
Can be yes, but that's besides the point. We can legally spank them because they are legally children. As for spanking in public, I'd like to see a bit more of that. There are real brats out there. For that matter, I wouldn't mind seeing a few parents spanked. They aren't much better.
 
I guess that makes them the single most ineffective thing in the history of things then.
Not at all. They are very effective. It's why we send our soldiers off with them. They are good at helping kill our enemies.
 
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