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Should these teens be tried as adults

Should the 15 and 16 year old also be tried as adults

  • yes and throw away the key

    Votes: 72 87.8%

  • no, they deserve a second chance

    Votes: 10 12.2%
  • Total voters
    82
TurtleDude said:
who would want the turd who pulled the trigger living among them at any point in the future?

Not me
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Maybe Obama? If he had a son, he would look just like that turd. Why not have the Obamas adopt him and move him into the White House?
 
The Man said:
Maybe Obama? If he had a son, he would look just like that turd. Why not have the Obamas adopt him and move him into the White House?
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I don't like Obama but I bet even he would be packing some serious heat if a turd like that murderer got within a county of one of his daughters

and I wouldn't blame him one bit
 
ChrisL said:
Fifteen is pretty young to be charged as an adult IMO. Most kids are still very much a child at that age. I just wish there was a way to hold them longer than until their 18th birthdays when it's a serious charge such as this.
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Serious charge? Most kids? Another very young person has lost their life to "relieve the bordom" of these worthless scum. If the "youthful mind" is excused from committing the random execution of a stranger then what, if anything, is cause for their permanent exclusion from civilized society? Must we await a higher "boredom" victim count to realize that these clueless morons deserve to be separated from civilized society permanently?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Serious charge? Most kids? Another very young person has lost their life to "relieve the bordom" of these worthless scum. If the "youthful mind" is excused from committing the random execution of a stranger then what, if anything, is cause for their permanent exclusion from civilized society? Must we await a higher "boredom" victim count to realize that these clueless morons deserve to be separated from civilized society permanently?
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I never said anything about excusing them. Just not killing them.
 
Screaming for blood doesn't solve the problems. We've been killing people now for how long? What good has it done? Maybe it's time to try something new and improved.
 
ChrisL said:
I never said anything about excusing them. Just not killing them.
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They will not get the DP, but they should get LWOP. When they meet Bubba, their cellmate, they will wish to have been simply bored; instead they will likely be "bored", indeed, but in an previously "exit only" oriifice. ;)
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Vengeance is the most barbaric form of justice.
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Sometimes though, it's warranted. Sometimes, the barbarians got one right, not saying uncivilized behavior and ransacking are ever the optimal behaviors, but they were VERY good at setting examples of judicious punishment amongst their own. Sometimes, vicious punishment does discourage detestible behavior.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
They will not get the DP, but they should get LWOP. When they meet Bubba, their cellmate, they will wish to have been simply bored; instead they will likely be "bored", indeed, but in an previously "exit only" oriifice. ;)
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Terrific. Justified rape by those unable to grasp justice.
 
Boredom doesn't kill, and guns don't kill. Thug trash kills, and thug trash needs to be killed in return.
 
ChrisL said:
You killed somebody, so now I'm going to kill you. Hmm. That doesn't sound like justice to me boys. :)
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Killing someone for less than just reasons is the best reason to forfeit one's own life. I hate to have to say it like that, but when someone is so devoid of values that they don't respect the most basic right of life, they should not expect reciprocation to their own. It's kind of like when a thief gets stolen from, no expectation of pity should be had.
 
ChrisL said:
Screaming for blood doesn't solve the problems. We've been killing people now for how long? What good has it done? Maybe it's time to try something new and improved.
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Like what? Is there a way to force people like this parents to give a **** before they turn out like this?

I'm personally all for mandatory abortion or giving up for adoption for people who get knocked up and aren't fit to take care of children.
 
LaMidRighter said:
Killing someone for less than just reasons is the best reason to forfeit one's own life. I hate to have to say it like that, but when someone is so devoid of values that they don't respect the most basic right of life, they should not expect reciprocation to their own. It's kind of like when a thief gets stolen from, no expectation of pity should be had.
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But if a kid can be rehabilitated and saved, why would you wish to kill him instead?
 
The Man said:
Like what? Is there a way to force people like this parents to give a **** before they turn out like this?

I'm personally all for mandatory abortion or giving up for adoption for people who get knocked up and aren't fit to take care of children.
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Seems like that have been tried before? Are you planning on being the judge of who is fit?
 
ChrisL said:
Screaming for blood doesn't solve the problems. We've been killing people now for how long? What good has it done? Maybe it's time to try something new and improved.
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The question seems, what that new and improved something is.
 
The Man said:
Like what? Is there a way to force people like this parents to give a **** before they turn out like this?

I'm personally all for mandatory abortion or giving up for adoption for people who get knocked up and aren't fit to take care of children.
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I don't know anything about these kids' parents. I do know that there have been several serial killers at least who apparently had normal upper middle class upbringings though.
 
People say "lets try something else", but those people have no idea on what else to try.
 
The Man said:
People say "lets try something else", but those people have no idea on what else to try.
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We could try no guns? It was a bullet fired from a gun that killed him correct?
 
ChrisL said:
I never said anything about excusing them. Just not killing them.
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This is not a capital offense. Prosecutors would have to prove premeditation, that they conspired as a group to murder a random person, then went out seeking such a person to murder. That would be very difficult to prove beyond reasonable doubt. The top charge I would expect is Second Degree Murder; not sure they'd even be found guilty of that at this point, frankly. Juries have... disillusioned me lately.

But yes, I agree they should be charged as adults.
 
LaMidRighter said:
That's fine, if the family doesn't want it that should be taken into consideration.
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It's a really drawn out and painful process for the family. Think of having to relive the crime over and over and over again instead of being able to just grieve like a normal person and then be able to move on with your life, with whatever kind of normalcy you can manage, if that's even possible. It takes years and years sometimes.
 
ChrisL said:
But if a kid can be rehabilitated and saved, why would you wish to kill him instead?
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I'm not of the opinion that a kid who can kill because he is "bored" can or should be saved.
 
DiAnna said:
This is not a capital offense. Prosecutors would have to prove premeditation, that they conspired as a group to murder a random person, then went out seeking such a person to murder. That would be very difficult to prove beyond reasonable doubt. The top charge I would expect is Second Degree Murder; not sure they'd even be found guilty of that at this point, frankly. Juries have... disillusioned me lately.

But yes, I agree they should be charged as adults.
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I understand that, but there are people here on this thread wanting to have them killed. That's who I'm addressing.
 
ChrisL said:
It's a really drawn out and painful process for the family. Think of having to relive the crime over and over and over again instead of being able to just grieve like a normal person and then be able to move on with your life, with whatever kind of normalcy you can manage, if that's even possible. It takes years and years sometimes.
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And that is understandable, the family suffered the greatest loss so their opinion should be a strongly weighted factor.
 
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