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Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

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TiredOfLife said:
What is it that makes you think this is about feelings, or that we are not aware of the great costs to the athletes? Hopes and dreams matter, but other things matter more unfortunately.
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IN your opinion which has no merit because you have no standing to sacrifice what others have worked for
 
Shadow Serious said:
Ok, how about this. YOU agree to compensate one athlete the total cost in dollars invested to put him/her in a condition to be able to go to the Olympics if Obama decides to boycott it. This means you would have a stake in this and you opinion on how athletes should just give up the opportunity that they had sacrificed for a lifetime for it.

If not, then say your piece about what policy we should take but don't mention that the athletes should be just be happy and willingly give up on their dream. It is not yours to sacrifice.
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It's not theirs either. We go as a Country in case you hadn't noticed.
 
TiredOfLife said:
It's not theirs either. We go as a Country in case you hadn't noticed.
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BFD. its the olympic team that should make the decision not a bunch of pimps or hand wringing ninnies

you don't fund the team, you have no standing

and why are you so hot and bothered about the Russian rule?
 
TurtleDude said:
IN your opinion which has no merit because you have no standing to sacrifice what others have worked for
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We as a country have a standing. They are between what they long for, have worked and sacrificed for, and what we as a country stand for. That's also known as being between a rock and a hard place.
 
TurtleDude said:
BFD. its the olympic team that should make the decision not a bunch of pimps or hand wringing ninnies

you don't fund the team, you have no standing

and why are you so hot and bothered about the Russian rule?
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If it was Coke or Koch flying their colors, I couldn't care less, but it isn't now is it? This is about nations, not supporters.
 
TiredOfLife said:
We as a country have a standing. They are between what they long for, have worked and sacrificed for, and what we as a country stand for. That's also known as being between a rock and a hard place.
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uh again you don't count in this issue. YOu cannot even prove a boycott would change the law

might make things worse for gays in Russia
 
TiredOfLife said:
It's not theirs either. We go as a Country in case you hadn't noticed.
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It is theirs but they represent our country. It is most certainly not the President''s and it wasn't Carter's nor is it Obama's call. Who participates and how is up to the Olympic committee.
 
TurtleDude said:
uh again you don't count in this issue. YOu cannot even prove a boycott would change the law

might make things worse for gays in Russia
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Change the laws? Who knows, but it's not about them now, it's about us, what we stand for. If they wish to play Catholic Dark Ages, so be it but that's not who we are and if we stay home, we are making that moral stand loud and clear. That may change nothing at all, and it doesn't matter either. You either stand up for what's right or wrong, or you don't. It's not about more than that.
 
TiredOfLife said:
Change the laws? Who knows, but it's not about them now, it's about us, what we stand for. If they wish to play Catholic Dark Ages, so be it but that's not who we are and if we stay home, we are making that moral stand loud and clear. That may change nothing at all, and it doesn't matter either. You either stand up for what's right or wrong, or you don't. It's not about more than that.
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what is right and what is wrong is this

screwing over AMERICANS to claim we are pissed at what the RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT does is WRONG
 
Shadow Serious said:
It is theirs but they represent our country. It is most certainly not the President''s and it wasn't Carter's nor is it Obama's call. Who participates and how is up to the Olympic committee.
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They define the athletes, we send them in our name, or in this case, we don't.
 
TiredOfLife said:
Wars have been fought over less.
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and your idea of fighting a war is to shoot our own citizens to punish the enemy country

great strategy there
 
TurtleDude said:
and your idea of fighting a war is to shoot our own citizens to punish the enemy country

great strategy there
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That's entirely untrue. Take a break, you are letting your emotions as an athlete get the best of you.
 
TiredOfLife said:
That's entirely untrue. Take a break, you are letting your emotions as an athlete get the best of you.
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that's rich, your desire to make a statement that only will hurt innocent Americans is not only emotional but it is based on a lack of understanding.

The right of a few gays to engage in public displays of homosexual affection in a foreign nation is not exactly a right that demands pissing on a hundred or more of our athletes. do you also demand we boycott say every fund muslim nation over their laws concerning women not say wearing swimsuits or leotards in public?
 
X Factor said:
With all the controversy around a new Russian law against homosexual "propaganda", some are calling for the US to boycott the 2014 winter Olympics in Russia. I don't think we should because it just punishes the athletes that have been training and preparing their whole lives.

What do you think?
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The US government has no business using the Olympics to make a point unless it plans to alter the whole of our foreign policy along the same lines. It would be patently hypocritical to walk out on the Olympics because of the Russian government's position on homosexuality while continuing to trade with China despite its record on human rights.

If the US Olympic team were to quit at the last minute, leaving the United States with no competitors to its name, that would be acceptable to me.
 
TurtleDude said:
that's rich, your desire to make a statement that only will hurt innocent Americans is not only emotional but it is based on a lack of understanding.

The right of a few gays to engage in public displays of homosexual affection in a foreign nation is not exactly a right that demands pissing on a hundred or more of our athletes. do you also demand we boycott say every fund muslim nation over their laws concerning women not say wearing swimsuits or leotards in public?
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Are they holding the Olympic Games and have threatened out athletes?
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
The US government has no business using the Olympics to make a point unless it plans to alter the whole of our foreign policy along the same lines. It would be patently hypocritical to walk out on the Olympics because of the Russian government's position on homosexuality while continuing to trade with China despite its record on human rights.

If the US Olympic team were to quit at the last minute, leaving the United States with no competitors to its name, that would be acceptable to me.
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They can go under any flag they like, as long as it isn't ours.
 
TiredOfLife said:
Are they holding the Olympic Games and have threatened out athletes?
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oh the drama. you still haven't told us how your moronic suggestion that we punish our athletes will actually accomplish anything

I have a great idea. People who feel they cannot abide by the host country's laws that prohibit ACTIONS (not status) should not travel with the team. Those who can certainly don't need people like you deciding what they do
 
TiredOfLife said:
They can go under any flag they like, as long as it isn't ours.
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Sorry, you aren't lord high proprietor of our flag, nor have you earned that right to decide who can use it
 
TiredOfLife said:
We as a country have a standing. They are between what they long for, have worked and sacrificed for, and what we as a country stand for. That's also known as being between a rock and a hard place.
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Our country doesn't have a standing on how Russia maintains its internal laws and civil order. At least Carter was boycotting due to an invasion of another country. And I think Carter was still wrong on boycotting it. We should have went and did what we could to make sure that Afghanistan participated also.

America still has plenty of issues to deal with at home than seeking those on a foreign shore.

We should not ask those who worked so hard to sacrifice just so one President can get a few measly beanies.

We are not between a rock and a hard place. You are the one advocating putting our hand between the grist and the millstone. Maybe you mean well, but the outcome will not benefit the gays in Russia.
 
TurtleDude said:
Sorry, you aren't lord high proprietor of our flag, nor have you earned that right to decide who can use it
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It's communal. The Olympic Athletes from the US don't own it either.
 
Shadow Serious said:
Our country doesn't have a standing on how Russia maintains its internal laws and civil order. At least Carter was boycotting due to an invasion of another country. And I think Carter was still wrong on boycotting it. We should have went and did what we could to make sure that Afghanistan participated also.

America still has plenty of issues to deal with at home than seeking those on a foreign shore.

We should not ask those who worked so hard to sacrifice just so one President can get a few measly beanies.

We are not between a rock and a hard place. You are the one advocating putting our hand between the grist and the millstone. Maybe you mean well, but the outcome will not benefit the gays in Russia.
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The gays in Russia have to take their stand, we have to take ours.
 
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