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Is atheism a religion[W:711:831]

Is atheism a religion

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cabse5 said:
You're talking about being offended.. What monstrosities are being commited by Christians, Jews, Muslims, or Atheists practicing their religion in silence or not in silence?
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I'm not talking about being offended, I never used the word "offended" at all. I said that there is a time and a place for things and school is neither the time nor the place for displays of religiousity. Besides, even the Bible says not to make a show of your religion, why do you ignore the Bible?

What if I were offended that Barack Obama was president? Offended if mary jane was legalized? Offended in Gay Pride Parades? Could I get the last presidential election nulified 'cause I'm OFFENDED? Could I get Oregon's and Colorado's legalization of mary jane nulified 'cause I'm OFFENDED? Could I get Gay Pride Parades outlawed 'cause I'm OFFENDED? Jeze, this is America, dude. This is a representative republic. We compromise here, if you don't know....
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You don't seem to understand that everywhere isn't a democratic republic. You don't get to do things your boss doesn't want you to do at work without consequences. School is a requirement, people cannot simply walk out because they are offended. It's not even about offense, but intent. The purpose of school is to educate. If students want to talk about religion before school or after school, nobody cares. It's when they want to interfere with the educational process by spouting their irrational nonsense that people care.
 
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Grendel said:
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I know what the word 'ideology' means. You need to look up the word 'atheism'. All atheism means is not believing in gods. There is no set of doctrines or beliefs for atheism. If you think there is, please show me where these are listed, and by what authority they are defined as requisites for atheism.

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Not true. Also, as part of the atheist doctrine, there's a desire and attempt to remove all religious references from gov't.
 
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Cephus said:
I'm not talking about being offended, I never used the word "offended" at all. I said that there is a time and a place for things and school is neither the time nor the place for displays of religiousity. Besides, even the Bible says not to make a show of your religion, why do you ignore the Bible?



You don't seem to understand that everywhere isn't a democratic republic. You don't get to do things your boss doesn't want you to do at work without consequences. School is a requirement, people cannot simply walk out because they are offended. It's not even about offense, but intent. The purpose of school is to educate. If students want to talk about religion before school or after school, nobody cares. It's when they want to interfere with the educational process by spouting their irrational nonsense that people care.
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Why isn't school the t ime or place for religion?. Why does everyone at public school have to practice the athiest's ideology? Again, not what the Founding Fathers (Madison) had in mind when referring to religious freedoms.
 
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cabse5 said:
Not true. Also, as part of the atheist doctrine, there's a desire and attempt to remove all religions from gov't.
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Where is this doctrine listed and by what authority is it produced?
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Where is this doctrine listed and by what authority is it produced?
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Not gonna comment on this tripe. Don't think atheists actively want to remove religion from gov't? I've got a lake I want to sell you in Arizona.
 
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cabse5 said:
Why isn't school the t ime or place for religion?. Why does everyone at public school have to practice the athiest's ideology? Again, not what the Founding Fathers (Madison) had in mind when referring to religious freedoms.
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Because our government is secular. The courts have decided that. Deal with it.
 
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cabse5 said:
Not gonna comment on this tripe. Don't think atheists actively want to remove religion from gov't? I've got a lake I want to sell you in Arizona.
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There are dozens of lakes in Arizona, or were you unaware of that, like you seem to be of just about everything?
 
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Not aware of this... OK how about lakes in the Pheonix area?
 
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Cephus said:
Because our government is secular. The courts have decided that. Deal with it.
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First hand example of the Athists' ideology to attempt to eliminate religion from gov't. Again, not what the Framers had in mind.
 
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cabse5 said:
Not true. Also, as part of the atheist doctrine, there's a desire and attempt to remove all religious references from gov't.
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There is no such thing as atheist doctrine. Why do you feel your religion needs a monopoly over our government? Can your god not represent himself?

cabse5 said:
First hand example of the Athists' ideology to attempt to eliminate religion from gov't. Again, not what the Framers had in mind.
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The framers included a separation of church and state, so you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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and after googling lakes in the Phoenix AZ area, I get quite a few, so.. On to another analogy...
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
There is no such thing as atheist doctrine. Why do you feel your religion needs a monopoly over our government? Can your god not represent himself?
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Does doctrine have to go with God? No. Does ideology have to go with God? No. I see why you're unwilling to see the similarity between religion and atheism. Both are ideologies. Don't want to seem even the slightest to be related to religion. Surprise, and too bad.

Not saying atheism is a religion. Am saying atheism is closely related to religion. Both are ideologies. The only ideology not allowed in American gov't is religion (thanks to atheists).
 
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Atheism is the lack of religion...therefore it is not a religion.
 
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cabse5 said:
Why isn't school the t ime or place for religion?. Why does everyone at public school have to practice the athiest's ideology? Again, not what the Founding Fathers (Madison) had in mind when referring to religious freedoms.
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According to some religions...god is everywhere. Speak to god from your mind 24/7. That's the great aspect of believing god exist. Continuous nonstop communications. God knows when you've been sleeping, having sex, having a picnic, drinking and drugging too much, etc, etc, etc.

If parents, at home (evenings and weekends) and churches can't get their message across...then it's just not gonna happen.

Talk to god all of the time you want...but not on my tax dollar. Kids distracted enough with life. Reading, writing, and arithmetic...is about all they can muster during the course of a school day. Oh...lets not forget science. Kids need lots of science. Computers are the result of science.

I'm sure all would love to read an Atheist's Bible. So don't hesitate to share that with us. Give all directions to the nearest Atheist Church...we'd all love to attend, check it out, see how atheists tick. Besides, we want to find out who the atheist is that created the universe.
 
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cabse5 said:
Does doctrine have to go with God? No. Does ideology have to go with God? No. I see why you're unwilling to see the similarity between religion and atheism. Both are ideologies. Don't want to seem even the slightest to be related to religion. Surprise, and too bad.
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We don't have a doctrine. We don't have a book, we don't have anything to guide us, just ourselves. I can see you didn't listen to the other hundred people that told you this so I wont waste my time.

So keep acting butthurt that you don't get to use the government to shove your religion down my throat.
That's not what freedom or America is about.
 
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What a concrete thinker. You have any concepts for me? Not gonna repeat again. You are not willing to include religion and atheism as ideologies (even though they are) 'cause somebody other than me would be butthurt.
 
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Removable Mind said:
According to some religions...god is everywhere. Speak to god from your mind 24/7. That's the great aspect of believing god exist. Continuous nonstop communications. God knows when you've been sleeping, having sex, having a picnic, drinking and drugging too much, etc, etc, etc.

If parents, at home (evenings and weekends) and churches can't get their message across...then it's just not gonna happen.

Talk to god all of the time you want...but not on my tax dollar. Kids distracted enough with life. Reading, writing, and arithmetic...is about all they can muster during the course of a school day. Oh...lets not forget science. Kids need lots of science. Computers are the result of science.

I'm sure all would love to read an Atheist's Bible. So don't hesitate to share that with us. Give all directions to the nearest Atheist Church...we'd all love to attend, check it out, see how atheists tick. Besides, we want to find out who the atheist is that created the universe.
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Not on your tax dollar? I get ObamaCare on my tax dollar!!.. Don't you guys get the concept of compromise and a representative republic? And the intentions of the Founding Fathers?
 
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cabse5 said:
What a concrete thinker. You have any concepts for me? Not gonna repeat again. You are not willing to include religion and atheism as ideologies (even though you are) 'cause somebody other than me would be butthurt.
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Even if we did consider atheism a religion, which its not, it still isn't taught in schools. You must be trying to call science an atheist agenda or something. Nobody is even preventing you or your friends from being religious as hell in school. The only thing anyone is trying to do is keep YOU from trying to force your religion on a group of kids who have to be there.

Thats all you have to be mad about. You don't get to force your religion on kids in school. Where is that in the Bible or the constitution?

And for the love of a fake god, stop slandering our founding fathers.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
There is no such thing as atheist doctrine. Why do you feel your religion needs a monopoly over our government? Can your god not represent himself?



The framers included a separation of church and state, so you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
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Not Madison, the originator of the freedom of religious expression and main force in the Constitution pertaining religion.

Jefferson's SCOTUS' definition of separation of church and state being a gov't devoid of religion was a pet project of Jefferson's. Not the Framers (Madison) of the religion portion of the first amedment of the Consitution.
 
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cabse5 said:
Not gonna comment on this tripe. Don't think atheists actively want to remove religion from gov't? I've got a lake I want to sell you in Arizona.
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Just another empty vessel then. Spewing lies repeatedly doesn't make them true.
 
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cabse5 said:
Not on your tax dollar? I get ObamaCare on my tax dollar!!.. Don't you guys get the concept of compromise and a representative republic?
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Now...you're not only trying to drag religion into school...but you need to use a thread to talk about your comparing religion with ObamaCare...and throw in representative government.

Your post is a prime example why so many kids brains are in a mess.

Back to my post. How about a drift away from your uncontrollable need to throw in some intellectual dishonesty...and go back to what I posted?

Do I need to repost it for you?

Is that ever enough time in the day for kids to take a break from god and become educated enough so that they can hopefully become gainfully employed and provide for themselves...and possibly a family one day.

Then on Sundays or whatever day is the church day...kids will grow to be smart enough to read the hymn books, listen to sermons and decide as to whether or not what they are hearing is bull**** or not. Oh, while they are there. Might as well pray for a job on earth when they get out of school and not owe their soul to the company store. Last I heard god has been laying off...not hiring. An atheist let me in on that.
 
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Which lies?
 
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cabse5 said:
First hand example of the Athists' ideology to attempt to eliminate religion from gov't. Again, not what the Framers had in mind.
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If all you're going to do is keep repeating the same old tired nonsense, there's no point in talking to you. Come back when you rent a clue.
 
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Removable Mind said:
Now...you're not only trying to drag religion into school...but you need to use a thread to talk about your comparing religion with ObamaCare...and throw in representative government.

Your post is a prime example why so many kids brains are in a mess.

Back to my post. How about a drift away from your uncontrollable need to throw in some intellectual dishonesty...and go back to what I posted?

Do I need to repost it for you?

Is that ever enough time in the day for kids to take a break from god and become educated enough so that they can hopefully become gainfully employed and provide for themselves...and possibly a family one day.

Then on Sundays or whatever day is the church day...kids will grow to be smart enough to read the hymn books, listen to sermons and decide as to whether or not what they are hearing is bull**** or not. Oh, while they are there. Might as well pray for a job on earth when they get out of school and not owe their soul to the company store. Last I heard god has been laying off...not hiring. An atheist let me in on that.
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School shouldn't have classes on religions. School should have time for students to worship without gov't interference. There's a big difference. If schools determine to have classes on relgion, they should have classes on all religions.

Like to build straw men much?
 
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