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Do you support school uniforms?

What is your stance on School Uniforms?

  • Yes and the school should offer them at no extra cost.

    Votes: 20 18.3%
  • Yes and the parents should pay for them.

    Votes: 40 36.7%
  • They should be optional for students who want them

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • There should be school uniforms for specific activities only

    Votes: 3 2.8%
  • We should leave it to the parents to decide if the school should have uniforms

    Votes: 10 9.2%
  • We should leave it at municipal/state level

    Votes: 10 9.2%
  • We shouldn't have school uniforms at all

    Votes: 24 22.0%
  • I like the current way things are.

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • I hate uniforms

    Votes: 9 8.3%
  • I'm a potato.

    Votes: 13 11.9%

  • Total voters
    109
I agree as long as that is the case. But further down the road since our public education system is so reliant on the great and omnipotent Federal government.....you know how that carrot on a stick thing works where the Federal government sends the need monies as long as the state complies with their wishes. Well all it is going to take is another progressive to implement mandatory uniforms from a federal level. Then what are you going to do? Homeschool?

Uniforms would probably be less of a problem than some of the other decrees that have already come from Washington. The top down control model is the root of the evils.
 
Uniforms would probably be less of a problem than some of the other decrees that have already come from Washington. The top down control model is the root of the evils.

Excuse me but isn't mandatory uniforms from the top just as evil?
 
Uniforms would probably be less of a problem than some of the other decrees that have already come from Washington. The top down control model is the root of the evils.

I must say that I never thought of uniforms as "evil" before. :lol:
 
I must say that I never thought of uniforms as "evil" before. :lol:
Well if you were in a position that you felt your children deserved their own right of expression, that individuality mattered and that government did not have a right to regulate or take away that right then maybe you too would consider it evil also.
 
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Well if you were in a position that you felt your children deserved their own right of expression, that individuality mattered and that government did not have a right to regulate or take that away then maybe you too would consider it evil.

I have a child and if he had to wear a uniform, I wouldn't sweat it and neither would he. He would wear his uniform and go to school.
 
Well if you were in a position that you felt your children deserved their own right of expression, that individuality mattered and that government did not have a right to regulate or take away that right then maybe you too would consider it evil also.

If my child's identity and individuality were dependent upon what clothes they wore to school, I would consider myself a failure as a parent, but to each their own values.
 
I have a child and if he had to wear a uniform, I wouldn't sweat it and neither would he. He would wear his uniform and go to school.


In political jargon, useful idiot is a pejorative term for people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they do not understand, and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause.
 
In political jargon, useful idiot is a pejorative term for people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they do not understand, and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause.

What do you think the goal is?
 
If my child's identity and individuality were dependent upon what clothes they wore to school, I would consider myself a failure as a parent, but to each their own values.

But are you willing to accept the government elite to decide what is appropriate for your child to wear? Think about it before you respond or you too may show yourself as another useful idiot.
 
But are you willing to accept the government elite to decide what is appropriate for your child to wear? Think about it before you respond or you too may show yourself as another useful idiot.

I think it would probably be the school board that decided. :lol:
 
I think it would probably be the school board that decided. :lol:
But you as a concerned parent have the right to question and reject anything the school board puts forth. That's the way it works. :)
 
But you as a concerned parent have the right to question and reject anything the school board puts forth. That's the way it works. :)

But I don't have a problem with children wearing uniforms for school.
 
But I don't have a problem with children wearing uniforms for school.

Well there you go..... explains a lot. thanks for sharing.
 
But are you willing to accept the government elite to decide what is appropriate for your child to wear? Think about it before you respond or you too may show yourself as another useful idiot.

My only school age child goes to private school and he has a dress code. I have been subject to certain dress codes most of my life in one way or the other. It is not that big of a thing. I don't care one way or the other, but that you seem to think people who do not agree with you are "useful idiots" could be reflective of your putting too much emphasis on your clothing as being an expression of who you are. I really don't care if my clothes come from Walmart or Vineyard Vines and it is unlikely that I would be impressed by yours or anybody else's.
 
My only school age child goes to private school and he has a dress code. I have been subject to certain dress codes most of my life in one way or the other. It is not that big of a thing. I don't care one way or the other, but that you seem to think people who do not agree with you are "useful idiots" could be reflective of your putting too much emphasis on your clothing as being an expression of who you are. I really don't care if my clothes come from Walmart or Vineyard Vines and it is unlikely that I would be impressed by yours or anybody else's.

Since there are already schools that have uniforms and dress codes, I think somebody needs to go out and start protesting about this horrible travesty of justice! :2razz:
 
Since there are already schools that have uniforms and dress codes, I think somebody needs to go out and start protesting about this horrible travesty of justice! :2razz:

Some of our public schools have more enhanced dress codes than others. There is always a middle-ground between chain wallets and t-shirts and coat and tie. I see both sides of the issue, and I still don't really care one way or the other. Uniforms are not a magic academic or discipline bullet. My concern is not that people will be oppressed by not being able to wear A&F plastered all over them, but that some kids' parents may not take it upon themselves to buy or take care of the uniforms since they do not properly take care of the kids to begin with so those kids could have a lot of discipline problems and even be suspended for doing nothing wrong.
 
My only school age child goes to private school and he has a dress code. I have been subject to certain dress codes most of my life in one way or the other. It is not that big of a thing. I don't care one way or the other, but that you seem to think people who do not agree with you are "useful idiots" could be reflective of your putting too much emphasis on your clothing as being an expression of who you are. I really don't care if my clothes come from Walmart or Vineyard Vines and it is unlikely that I would be impressed by yours or anybody else's.
Thank you for your dime store psychological summary of who I am. You don't have any children in the public schools for you made an individual choice not to. At the moment the majority of the people in their public school districts control whether there is mandatory uniforms by popular vote. But the discussion was suggesting what if a Federal mandate came down forcing all to comply? You obviously don't have a problem with something like that cause it is no skin off your nose. Many do. People who are freedom-minded consider that any law should not infringe on another's rights whether they affect them personally or not. But those who do not revere freedom for all will become the useful idiots that allow the freedoms of others to be squelched. Nuff said.
 
Thank you for your dime store psychological summary of who I am. You don't have any children in the public schools. At the moment the majority of the people in their school districts control whether there is mandatory uniforms by popular vote. But the discussion was suggesting what if a Federal mandate came down forcing all to comply? You obviously don't have a problem with something like that cause it is no skin off your nose. Many do. People who are freedom-minded consider that any law should not infringe on another's rights whether they affect them personally or not. But those who do not revere freedom for all will become the useful idiots that allow the freedoms of others to be squelched. Nuff said.

The reason I have no kids in public school is because I want them to learn something, a problem from which you do not suffer. Perhaps they will learn the difference between "useful idiot" and "useless idiot" in the process.
 
Some of our public schools have more enhanced dress codes than others. There is always a middle-ground between chain wallets and t-shirts and coat and tie. I see both sides of the issue, and I still don't really care one way or the other. Uniforms are not a magic academic or discipline bullet. My concern is not that people will be oppressed by not being able to wear A&F plastered all over them, but that some kids' parents may not take it upon themselves to buy or take care of the uniforms since they do not properly take care of the kids to begin with so those kids could have a lot of discipline problems and even be suspended for doing nothing wrong.

The one legitimate concern I've heard raised so far was by Rogue about some parents possibly not being able to afford the uniforms, which makes sense.
 
You seem to think that what the kid wears dictates an inability to be an individual. That is what matters about diversity... not the superficial clothes on their back. You don't understand personality or psychology on the most fucndamental level apparently. Like I said, you are probably a kid. That is fine. Just doesn't give you enough experience to make a informed choice... and why adults make the rules too.


I think it's just setting the kids up for the real world. When you have a job, there's often a dress code (or a uniform).
 
The reason I have no kids in public school is because I want them to learn something, a problem from which you do not suffer. Perhaps they will learn the difference between "useful idiot" and "useless idiot" in the process.
I deserve that.
If I had school age children still at home, my choice would be a private school also for a number of reasons.
 
The one legitimate concern I've heard raised so far was by Rogue about some parents possibly not being able to afford the uniforms, which makes sense.

There is generally no reason to worry about the expense. Most school uniforms are standard pants, shirts, and skirts that can be purchased at Walmart or JC Penney. And in my experience with private school uniforms, the items of clothing with school patches are "handed down" at the beginning of the school year. Parents meet up in the cafeteria or someplace and go through stacks of outgrown shirts and sweaters. My kids were "scholarship students," but I had no problem at all affording their uniforms. (I just think that white shirts for little kids are a big, big mistake!)
 
There is generally no reason to worry about the expense. Most school uniforms are standard pants, shirts, and skirts that can be purchased at Walmart or JC Penney. And in my experience with private school uniforms, the items of clothing with school patches are "handed down" at the beginning of the school year. Parents meet up in the cafeteria or someplace and go through stacks of outgrown shirts and sweaters. My kids were "scholarship students," but I had no problem at all affording their uniforms. (I just think that white shirts for little kids are a big, big mistake!)

I was trying to find her post to quote it for you, but I can't find it. Anyway, she made some really good points in her post about how some really poor families use hand-me-downs, or they might buy their clothes from a salvation army type of place.

I think that if the family does have legitimate financial issues, then that could be taken care of by offering those particular families discounted prices on uniforms through the school or something. Kind of like they do with lunches.
 
I'm sure that such offers are made and very discreetly too. But again, you can find ordinary boys' and girls' khakis and so on at Goodwill and at garage sales too.
 
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