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Is communism possible in the USA?

Is communism possible in the USA?

  • Yes, Soviet type of communism

    Votes: 9 9.1%
  • Yes, community type of communism

    Votes: 10 10.1%
  • Yes, religious type of communism

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Yes, other type of communism

    Votes: 12 12.1%
  • No, not possible

    Votes: 57 57.6%
  • Dunno

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 6.1%

  • Total voters
    99
If the current trends of laziness and apathy towards competition accelerate growth, which they probably will largely due to technology, then I suppose other economic systems will become possible. So I think socialism is very possible. Communism? No. People like their own "stuff", myself included. You can't share unless I tell you so ;)

When the all the means of production are in the hands of a very select few, do you think there won't be a choice between a Bentley for them and toilet paper for us?
 
My argument is that the enlisted get over worked, get less pay, and are devalued in our military. Do you believe that they should get payed more? I mean, you didn't stay enlisted. You became an officer, which may indicate that you were not content being an enlisted.

1. they do not get "over-worked" in comparison to officers. both enlisted and officers get over-worked in comparison to most civilians.

2. they do get less pay. the same as most people who do not have college degrees get payed less that people who do.

3. they are not devalued in our military by anyone who is not a complete idiot.

4. should they be payed more? think about it: a single E1 fresh out of basic training is payed $1,516.20/month plus is provided free room and board and free medical/dental coverage and has (unless they are a retard) learned a skill. sure, if you figure in the hours worked, the actual "salary" is just above minimum wage BUT all their expenses are paid so their salary is basically free spending money.

5. I was perfectly content being enlisted. At the time, the Guard was extremely short on officers. my battalion had 31 officer slots and only 14 officers to fill them. We had E7s serving as platoon leaders and 2LTs serving as company COs. They knew I already had a college degree and our BN CO and CSM called me into the office and handed me a stack of paperwork and said "fill these out", we are putting you in for a direct commission. Two months later I go before the commissioning board. walk in a SSG...walk out a 2LT and became the Commander of the HHC.
 
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1. they do not get "over-worked" in comparison to officers. both enlisted and officers get over-worked in comparison to most civilians.

2. they do get less pay. the same as most people who do not have college degrees get payed less that people who do.

3. they are not devalued in our military by anyone who is not a complete idiot.

4. should they be payed more? think about it: a single E1 fresh out of basic training is payed $1,516.20/month plus is provided free room and board and free medical/dental coverage and has (unless they are a retard) learned a skill. sure, if you figure in the hours worked, the actual "salary" is just above minimum wage BUT all their expenses are paid so their salary is basically free spending money.

5. I was perfectly content being enlisted. At the time, the Guard was extremely short on officers. my battalion had 31 officer slots and only 14 officers to fill them. We had E7s serving as platoon leaders and 2LTs serving as company COs. They knew I already had a college degree and our BN CO and CSM called me into the office and handed me a stack of paperwork and said "fill these out", we are putting you in for a direct commission. Two months later I go before the commissioning board. walk in a SSG...walk out a 2LT and became the Commander of the HHC.

Sorry but I was talking about infantry. They don't get a fair deal, not sure what was your MOS.
 
Sorry but I was talking about infantry. They don't get a fair deal, not sure what was your MOS.

sorry, it doesn't matter what your MOS is, what I said applies across the board. I started out as infantry. 11 bang bang
 
sorry, it doesn't matter what your MOS is, what I said applies across the board. I started out as infantry. 11 bang bang

Yes it does matter, their is a reason why in the marine corp most people are called POG. Army And Marine corp are not the same as Coast Guard.
 
Yes it does matter, their is a reason why in the marine corp most people are called POG. Army And Marine corp are not the same as Coast Guard.

whatever dude. just keep living in your fantasy world where you are a victim and everyone looks down on you. I'm done trying to enlighten you
 
whatever dude. just keep living in your fantasy world where you are a victim and everyone looks down on you. I'm done trying to enlighten you

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”


― Socrates
 
Jag I read an article the other day that broke down what percentage of the American population
had actually seen active combat in the military, it is a surprisingly minuscule amount.
Guess now that most of the WWII dudes are croaked and the Korean War vets are following
it will just continue to dwindle over time.

The thing about most Americans that whine and moan about their losing their rights is that
unless you do something outside of being a wage slave farm animal you never really encounter
any resistance from the government and what little you do see you are more than willing to comply with.

but step out and try to accomplish anything worthwhile and blammo they will be all up in your stuff in a heartbeat.
 
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”


― Socrates

seems that you are the only one trying to slander anyone here.
 
Jag I read an article the other day that broke down what percentage of the American population
had actually seen active combat in the military, it is a surprisingly minuscule amount.
Guess now that most of the WWII dudes are croaked and the Korean War vets are following
it will just continue to dwindle over time.

The thing about most Americans that whine and moan about their losing their rights is that
unless you do something outside of being a wage slave farm animal you never really encounter
any resistance from the government and what little you do see you are more than willing to comply with.

but step out and try to accomplish anything worthwhile and blammo they will be all up in your stuff in a heartbeat.

Do you think that enlisted infantry should get paid wages slave ?
 
They already do, but there's not been a draft since I was a teenager and they volunteered so its all good.
 
Do you think that enlisted infantry should get paid wages slave ?

stop crying like a little girl. the enlisted infantry gets paid the same as all the other enlisted. and I have clearly shown you that if you take into consideration all pay and allowances and benefits it is hardly "slave wages"

how many other jobs do you know where an 18 y/o kid with only a HS diploma and no training can have all their life support provided and have $1500/month to spend as they please?
 
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They already do, but there's not been a draft since I was a teenager and they volunteered so its all good.

Most states like alabama doesn't give them a choice. Its poor people who serve, not the 1 percent.
 
yanno when I read the stuff you type my eyes cross
 
Most states like alabama doesn't give them a choice. Its poor people who serve, not the 1 percent.

it is not only poor people who serve. yet another baseless claim grounded in ignorance.
 
stop crying like a little girl. the enlisted infantry gets paid the same as all the other enlisted. and I have clearly shown you that if you take into consideration all pay and allowances and benefits it is hardly "slave wages"

how many other jobs do you know where an 18 y/o kid with only a HS diploma and no training can have all their life support provided and have $1500 to spend as they please?

Again

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”


― Socrates

They get paid equal, but work harder then most of the persons other than grunts. Humping is not the same as sitting at the computer.
 
Again

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”


― Socrates

They get paid equal, but work harder then most of the persons other than grunts.

cry me a river. maybe if they had scored higher than a 32 on the entrance exam they could have gotten one of those cushy MOSs that don't have to work as hard. and, since all you've ever done is be an 11B....you have no ****ing clue how hard anyone else works. try being a 92Y supply clerk spending 8-10 hours a day loading and unloading boxes of heavy ass equipment. Try being a 92G and getting up 3 hours before everyone else and spend all days sweating your ass off in a hot ass kitchen cooking and scrubbing pots. Try being an 82C surveyor and spending all day dragging around heavy ass survey equipment, slogging through tidal swamps and scrub forrests to cut a path to build roads. Try being a 31B and spending you days guarding the scum of the earth in some 3rd world ****hole. try being a 12B combat engineer.

there are dozens of MOSs that work just as hard as the infantry guys. take your "poor pitiful me" crap and pedal it elsewhere. maybe you can find a place where there are no actual military people there who will believe your bull****
 
Sorry most are.

sorry, you are just plain wrong

Lutz’s study also looks at the history of participation of the three largest racial and ethnic groups in the military — whites, blacks and Latinos — and examined ethnicity, immigrant generation and socioeconomic status in relation to military service. It concluded that significant disparities exist only by socioeconomic status, finding “the all-volunteer force continues to see overrepresentation of the working and middle classes, with fewer incentives for upper class participation.”

Who

most people who join the military come from the working and middle class. the poor and the rich, for the most part, do not join the military.
 
yeah kid back in the day the leet dudes made it a point to serve in the military
but that was the 'Murica my Mom & Dad lived in, today military service is no longer thought of
as an honor by a large proportion of the population *cough* commie libs

"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework,
and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well, and if you don’t you get stuck in Iraq.”
John "I served in Vietnam" Kerry
 
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