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Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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clax1911 said:
just as long as they dint use the word normal?, same thing.
So what that teachings conflict, if you don't have the ability to tell your kids that the school is wrong put them in private school.
Schools aren't undermining anything. What activity are you talking about? The schools are operated by the government.

No government can't mandate you attend public school. I had to pay taxes for the 35 years i had no children in school. Everybody pays taxes.
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schools attendance is mandated...look it up......United States about 6-17 old Varies by state. Beginning age varies 5-8, ending age varies 15-18.[17] Some states allow early leave with parental approval.,<-----mandatory schooling

its wrong for the school to use public money to teach homosexuality is wrong.

Its wrong for the school to use public money to teach homosexuality is right.

Government derive their powers from constitutions, does a constitution give them authority to be involved in social aspects of people lives ..like sex......no.

Sex is not in constitutions.
 
Dooble said:
What can't be proven?
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Gods, less you have measurement showing otherwise. Do you? Proof is measurement, proof can be demonstrated. It's not personal interpretation of random events or wishful thinking, proof has measurement. And you said:

Dooble said:
If I tell you God exists, then you ask for proof. If I tell you how you can get proof, you say ________?
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So what I want to know is the measurement through which I can obtain the proof you talk of. What is the physical constant and how may I measure it?
 
CLAX1911 said:
For sometime who claims to be intelligent you sure do jump to stupid conclusions an awful lot. I read doodle's nonsense, dismissed it for being nonsense and explained the stupidity in your question.

Two occasions I have made a single post to you and you became extremely rude.
Are you really so petty?... Wait dint answer that, I heard all your nonsense and posturing before, when it comes to religion I am your superior.
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Does anyone else here see the hypocrisy?
 
Dooble said:
Does anyone else here see the hypocrisy?
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There's no hypocrisy, he's just not very good at reasoning things through is all. Heart is in the right place, but the mind can't keep up.
 
Ikari said:
There's no hypocrisy, he's just not very good at reasoning things through is all. Heart is in the right place, but the mind can't keep up.
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I was referring to his cheap shot at me, while asking you to extend him some courtesy.

I realize this may be difficult to comprehend, but it's not all about you, Ikari. ;)
 
Ikari said:
Well someone needs their meds. I think you've stumbled upon my point finally. There is no measurement to faith, and there is no knowledge of it either because there can be no measurement. There is only wishful thinking. Thanks for finally catching on, even if you had to do so in a manner befitting a 16 year old spoiled girl who didn't get the color BMW she wanted for her sweet 16.

:roll:
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You just caught on, because that was the exact statement I made to you in the beginning. Proving you need large print. It's not my fault that you got butt hurt about my first post made an emotional outburst and couldn't read further, but it is what I have come to expect from you. Emotional outburst followed by selective illiteracy.

My first post #399
You can't prove God exists, that is why religions require faith. No instrument, no meter, no object is capable.
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Your nonsensical rather odd response. #400
Do people even read quoted texts to understand context anymore?
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Proving you don't understand things unless they are repeated over and over in very large print. You finally caught on, two pages later. The thing that is freaking hilarious is I am on your side, you need faith for belief. You use divisive words like make believe, ridiculing things you don't understand. But that doesn't mean that there is proof of God.
 
Dooble said:
I was referring to his cheap shot at me, while asking you to extend him some courtesy.

I realize this may be difficult to comprehend, but it's not all about you, Ikari. ;)
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Actually, it IS always all about me.
 
ernst barkmann said:
schools attendance is mandated...look it up......United States about 6-17 old Varies by state. Beginning age varies 5-8, ending age varies 15-18.[17] Some states allow early leave with parental approval.,<-----mandatory schooling
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Yes, private school is acceptable as well as home school
its wrong for the school to use public money to teach homosexuality is wrong.
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I agree
Its wrong for the school to use public money to teach homosexuality is right.
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I don't agree
Government derive their powers from constitutions, does a constitution give them authority to be involved in social aspects of people lives ..like sex......no.
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education isn't sex.
Sex is not in constitutions.
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Nor in schools.
 
Ikari said:
Gods,
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Ah. So what you're really trying to say is that God has not been manifested to you, therefore, he doesn't exist, right? Does the Universe revolve around your perceptions, Ikari?

Ikari said:
So what I want to know is the measurement through which I can obtain the proof you talk of. What is the physical constant and how may I measure it?
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Did I not explain how this works? You have the wrong tools, Ikari. In essence, you've brought a sewing kit to construction job.
 
CLAX1911 said:
You just caught on, because that was the exact statement I made to you in the beginning. Proving you need large print. It's not my fault that you got butt hurt about my first post made an emotional outburst and couldn't read further, but it is what I have come to expect from you. Emotional outburst followed by selective illiteracy.

My first post #399

Your nonsensical rather odd response. #400

Proving you don't understand things unless they are repeated over and over in very large print. You finally caught on, two pages later. The thing that is freaking hilarious is I am on your side, you need faith for belief. You use divisive words like make believe, ridiculing things you don't understand. But that doesn't mean that there is proof of God.
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Jesus god damned christ on a pogo stick. He said

Dooble said:
If I tell you God exists, then you ask for proof. If I tell you how you can get proof, you say ________?
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Can you read that? That's what I was responding to. What does it say? It's in English, you understand English? He said PROOF! He said he can get me proof. I want to know what that proof is, what measurement can net me that proof and that's what I want! Did someone really have to hold your hand for that? Learn to read.
 
Dooble said:
Ah. So what you're really trying to say is that God has not been manifested to you, therefore, he doesn't exist, right? Does the Universe revolve around your perceptions, Ikari?
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Actually, I claim no knowledge of gods (I'm agnostic atheist). But you said proof, and I want to see this proof.

Dooble said:
Did I not explain how this works? You have the wrong tools, Ikari. In essence, you've brought a sewing kit to construction job.
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You did not explain, you made excuses as to why you couldn't demonstrate proof. I just want to proof, you said it and I'm asking for you to back it up.
 
Ikari said:
Actually, I claim no knowledge of gods (I'm agnostic atheist). But you said proof, and I want to see this proof.
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That's not what I was talking about. Answer the question: Does the Universe revolve around your perceptions?

Ikari said:
You did not explain.
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Yes I did. Faith and scripture. Those are your tools.
 
Ikari said:
Jesus god damned christ on a pogo stick. He said



Can you read that? That's what I was responding to. What does it say? It's in English, you understand English? He said PROOF! He said he can get me proof. I want to know what that proof is, what measurement can net me that proof and that's what I want! Did someone really have to hold your hand for that? Learn to read.
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I Don't give a flying fornication what he said, I was addressing your comment.
But you don't tell how anyone can measure the system to obtain proof. I got a voltmeter, some probes, and an oscilloscope. What can I measure that proves gods?
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NOTHING
The little squiggly mark at the end of the sentence ? I answered it correctly and you posted some retarded nonsense about context. If you don't want posts answered don't post them.

Tolerating stupidity? Sheesh!
 
Dooble said:
That's not what I was talking about. Answer the question: Does the Universe revolve around your perceptions?
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As far as you know, yes.

Dooble said:
Yes I did. Faith and scripture. Those are your tools.
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That's not proof. That is hearsay and wishful thinking. You said proof. I want the proof. Either you have it, or you don't. What is it?
 
CLAX1911 said:
Yes, private school is acceptable as well as home school
I agree
I don't agree
education isn't sex.

Nor in schools.
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question:..... why does the left say that states cannot make laws against sodomy, homosexuality...in other words ....sex?

but then say states can make laws concerning sex?...when it comes to promoting ideas in that arena of there choice.

states have no authority in the area of sex.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I Don't give a flying fornication what he said, I was addressing your comment.
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And my comment was addressing HIS comment. You cannot address it without addressing the CONTEXT UNDER WHICH I WAS RESPONDING.

Holy ****ing hell....it isn't difficult.
 
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