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Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?


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Which would take many more than 3 decades. It took over 50 years to scrap the Enterprise. That is my point. It could be done, but it simply won't be done in a decade or two, not without major costs. It would take many decades, possibly even up to a century.

Wont take a century unless you are talking about 99% of everything being metric. 10 years roughly and most stuff is replaced with metric. Not many things last longer than that nowadays. Aircraft carriers are the exception not the rule
 
Wont take a century unless you are talking about 99% of everything being metric. 10 years roughly and most stuff is replaced with metric. Not many things last longer than that nowadays. Aircraft carriers are the exception not the rule

Aircraft carriers are an expensive exception. But they aren't the only ones. We don't replace any of our ships that fast. We have ships still in duty from WWII.
 
Aircraft carriers are an expensive exception. But they aren't the only ones. We don't replace any of our ships that fast. We have ships still in duty from WWII.

Yes but they are the exceptions most things don't last more than 10 years nowadays
 
Another good thing about the metric length measurement kilometer is that there are two ways to pronounce it. We can use one for the measurement and the other for velocity. I would prefer kil-O-me-ter for distance and ki-LO-ma-ter for velocity.
 
First, you assume that people know the imperial system (I know it is easy, and you do) but not everyone knows it. How will you re-educate the entire country? 2nd. If you phase it out completely on new devices you are going to have compatibility issues, and people will have to do conversions and won't know what to do. I have no problem with puting SI as primary on everything, but I don't think it is wise to remove imperial since that is what people know.
Australia, Canada, the UK and India have all gone from the Imperial system to the SI system of measurement. The US can do it too. Besides, most large companies (including the entire automotive industry) are already metricated in the United States. The only parts of their operations that are imperial are those that are customer-facing.
 
The metric system being more accurate? WRONG. Using whole numbers, the metric system is more precise. If you go to decimal places, they are equally accurate
... the US customary units are defined by the metric system equivolents. If you were to go ask the NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) what an 'inch' was, they'd reply "We define the inch as 25.4 millimetres." It occurs this way, because the metric system is more precise.
 
Howdy,

I was thinking, wouldn't it be better if the USA finally adopted the International System of Units? ;)

Because...



So, what do you think?



It was tried in the 70s when I was a kid. They taught us all the metric system in elementary school... for a while, most road signs were in both miles and kilometers... many cars were made with kilometer readings as well as mph... but it didn't take. People just didn't want to switch; they wanted to stick with what they were used to.

I use either and don't really care. When I'm doing something science-related, I tend to use what I still call "metric" measurements... km, kg, etc.... because they're easier and more precise to work with in such things. On a day to day basis, though, I use the "imperial" system like everyone else does.


It isn't really important, IMO.
 
The Imperial system is abhorrent and ridiculous. It needs to go immediately.

SI is rational and makes sense. Go ask a random person on the street how many feet are in a mile, 95% will not be able to tell you. Ask someone from any other country how many meters are in a kilometer. The difference is redonkulous.

Besides, most types of engineers and scientists already have switched to SI.
There was a push to do it in the 1970s, and we really should have sucked it up then and done it. It'd be long done and over with by now.
 
It was tried in the 70s when I was a kid. They taught us all the metric system in elementary school... for a while, most road signs were in both miles and kilometers... many cars were made with kilometer readings as well as mph... but it didn't take. People just didn't want to switch; they wanted to stick with what they were used to.

I use either and don't really care. When I'm doing something science-related, I tend to use what I still call "metric" measurements... km, kg, etc.... because they're easier and more precise to work with in such things. On a day to day basis, though, I use the "imperial" system like everyone else does.


It isn't really important, IMO.
I think we're roughly the same age and I remember the same thing. Though I disagree and think we should have pushed it through.
 
I think we're roughly the same age and I remember the same thing. Though I disagree and think we should have pushed it through.


If The People don't want it, it shouldn't be pushed on them. Free country, and all that. :)
 
You mean like income tax? ;)


Yeah, but lots of luck on that one. :)



Maybe I should have said "its a free country UNTIL some politician figures out a way to get his hands in your pockets".
 
You think liberals (who comprise of the unemployed, students, and ivory tower academics) are EVER going to understand this? Of course not, they've never spent a day at an actual business in their entire lives!

Besides, they're too busy kissing French ass and apologizing for our success in the world.
I do and I'm what YOU would call a liberal. :D
 
Yes but they are the exceptions most things don't last more than 10 years nowadays
I have to disagree with that completely. Our "new" kitchen is 10 years old and I expect it to last another 15 years at least considering we bought good quality appliances. The average car is 10 years old, which means half of them are older than that. Tractors of all kinds are kept on and off the road for decades. Houses last decades if not over a century, though there have already been changes in that area from pre-WWII houses. Buildings last even longer, especially sky scrappers.


And all that is before we even get into the fitment issues, having to change several things over at near the same time.
 
Well I've already described a solution to this. Yes, it would be extremely expensive to switch right now cold turkey. We have to ease into it. We need to have two systems for a while. Declare SI the primary system of units, and imperial the secondary. Teach both, create new products in SI, grandfather old products in imperial. After a few decades it'll be gone entirely. Pain-free.

See above. It wouldn't cost much.
While I would be fine with seeing metric (I'm old enough to have learned both in school) it won't be nearly as easy as you might think. The cost would not be inconsequential even if you spaced it out over several decades because there will be compatibility problems and re-designing that will need to be done. You can't just replace a 1" bolt with a 26mm bolt, it might not fit into the design correctly - assuming 26mm would even be a "standard" bolt (metrics tend to be odd numbers only after 10mm). 2x4 studs and 4x8' sheets fit correctly but 50x100mm and 4x8' sheets won't fit quite right - both need to be changed at once. There are millions of the same kind of examples out there. I'd like to see it but this is why is wasn't done 40 years ago and we've got the same problems now as we did then. The only difference is there would be some good come from it because there's more world trade than ever, now, so some industries would see some savings from it.
 
Then you might think it quaint to hear my uncles use links when referring to surveying their farmland.
I'm not surprised, but I actually know what a chain is, too ... ;)

It is 7.92 inches.

What measurement is a link

Though now that i think about it they might have mentioned a chain instead. (66ft)

Chain (unit) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Even in modern surveying we still call a 100' steel tape (aka engineers tape) a "chain", even though it's not 66' long. Honestly, I can't imagine anyone surveying with an old-fashioned 66' chain (100 links) - though you DO need to know the conversions into feet. 1 link = 0.66 ft. --- surveyors don't use inches.


FYI - An acre is 10 square chains (66x66 ft x10), if you've ever wondered where that 43,560 sq.ft. came from. ;)
 
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While I would be fine with seeing metric (I'm old enough to have learned both in school) it won't be nearly as easy as you might think. The cost would not be inconsequential even if you spaced it out over several decades because there will be compatibility problems and re-designing that will need to be done. You can't just replace a 1" bolt with a 26mm bolt, it might not fit into the design correctly - assuming 26mm would even be a "standard" bolt (metrics tend to be odd numbers only after 10mm). 2x4 studs and 4x8' sheets fit correctly but 50x100mm and 4x8' sheets won't fit quite right - both need to be changed at once. There are millions of the same kind of examples out there. I'd like to see it but this is why is wasn't done 40 years ago and we've got the same problems now as we did then. The only difference is there would be some good come from it because there's more world trade than ever, now, so some industries would see some savings from it.
No, the costs would not be inconsequential, but it would have cost less in 1973 than it would in 2013, and it would cost less in 2013 than it will in 2053.

It's inevitable, so we should quit being stubborn and just do it and get it over with.
 
... the US customary units are defined by the metric system equivolents. If you were to go ask the NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) what an 'inch' was, they'd reply "We define the inch as 25.4 millimetres." It occurs this way, because the metric system is more precise.
The metric system isn't more precise but when the US went to the metric standard, US units were defined in those terms.
 
No, the costs would not be inconsequential, but it would have cost less in 1973 than it would in 2013, and it would cost less in 2013 than it will in 2053.

It's inevitable, so we should quit being stubborn and just do it and get it over with.
I understand and agree but I'm not going to sugar-coat the process, either. People need to know what it is we'll be getting into by doing this and there will be a lot of mistakes while the old equipment - us humans - get used to it. I've seen more than one construction job screwed up when using meters instead of feet simply because the mistakes the construction guys would normally catch weren't being caught. That can't be the only industry where that kind of thing will happen.
 
Far too many have voted " no, we are fine" !!
Oh ? Then we should be the world's most backward large nation ?
Our present system , a mix, is a POS !
It has become criminal to stick with it ..
I think our people are smart enough ....I think...to upgrade and completely join the rest of the nations.
 
So I took a trip up to Windsor quite a few years back with a cousin of mine while we were doing some business in Detroit. Anyway we were driving an old Buick Regal. When we crossed over the MPH turned to KPH and neither of us knew the conversion and the old Buick didn't have both on the dash. Very interesting trying to gauge the speed limit since every driver on the road seemed to be going on at a different rate of speed. It was dumb luck we didn't get a ticket because we sure as hell were going over, and with IL plates them Canucks would of loved to give us the business I'm sure. After that I made sure to learn it and have been an advocate to change America to it ever since.
 
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