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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing


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re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

So true, Winston...but what just blows my mind is the Draconian forms of punishment, which if David has the power to impose what he deems appropriate, would be unbelievable.

And what forms of punishment are those?
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

:spin: :alert

Once again, that hates the action and lifestyle, not the person.

THis is nothing more than semantical rhetoric being used as an excuse for hatred and criminalizing people for no good reason.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

THis is nothing more than semantical rhetoric being used as an excuse for hatred and criminalizing people for no good reason.

Your opinion, nothing more.

:spin: :alert
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Your opinion, nothing more.

:spin: :alert

When you want to criminalize people that have done you no harm that is hatred.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

When you want to criminalize people that have done you no harm that is hatred.

So you also think we should legalize drugs? You would have to say yes with the logic you just posted.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

That is because gender is irrelevent to the post:

gen·der1 /ˈdʒɛndər/ Show Spelled [jen-der] Show IPA
noun
1. Grammar .
a. (in many languages) a set of classes that together include all nouns, membership in a particular class being shown by the form of the noun itself or by the form or choice of words that modify, replace, or otherwise refer to the noun, as, in English, the choice of he to replace the man, of she to replace the woman, of it to replace the table, of it or she to replace the ship. The number of genders in different languages varies from 2 to more than 20; often the classification correlates in part with sex or animateness. The most familiar sets of genders are of three classes (as masculine, feminine, and neuter in Latin and German) or of two (as common and neuter in Dutch, or masculine and feminine in French and Spanish).
b. one class of such a set.
c. such classes or sets collectively or in general.
d. membership of a word or grammatical form, or an inflectional form showing membership, in such a class.
2. sex: the feminine gender.
3. Archaic. kind, sort, or class.

My partners crotch had nothing to do with my life style.

Gender had nothing to do with lifestyle.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

sodomites are citizens of Sodom.

The modern translation isn't accurate.

No that is not correct. Sodomite does not stand for citizens of sodom. Why would they mean that when Sodom no longer existed..... :shrug:
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

My partners crotch had nothing to do with my life style.

Gender had nothing to do with lifestyle.

You aren't making any sense now.... You brought up gender in answer to my post..... :shrug:
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

We were discussing Christianity and the Bible so.......not sure why you need anything more... :shrug:




If you don't want to try to support your homophobic statement with some reliable proof, that's fine with me.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

So you also think we should legalize drugs?

Some drugs like alcohol are legal. And I certainly think they should be decriminalized.

You would have to say yes with the logic you just posted.

No I would not because I do not live in a lack and white world.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

The passage from Corinthians doesn't say anything against homosexuals.

have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites

Still nothing though you insist.

Wait wait wait, WOMEN can't get into heaven either? And people think that this scripture is somehow worth taking as meaningful lessons?

We were discussing Christianity and the Bible so.......not sure why you need anything more... :shrug:

Actually, we're not. The thread isn't about that. But you always seem to need to start tossing out bible passages and proclaiming that other people aren't real Christians and that the bible says that god doesn't want people to be gay. That's not the topic of this thread. The topic of the thread is various religious groups either changing their ways to conform with modern social movements, or not. Why don't you stay on topic?

Not true actually. I'm very comfortable with the scripture and the context of which it lies within.

No you don't. You make up context all the time. I've seen you claim that Isiah 7:14 is a prophecy about the messiah, a claim that requires ignoring the entire rest of the chapter.

See, now you've got me on your wacky tangent. What the bible does or does not say is not the topic of this thread.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Wait wait wait, WOMEN can't get into heaven either? And people think that this scripture is somehow worth taking as meaningful lessons?



Actually, we're not. The thread isn't about that. But you always seem to need to start tossing out bible passages and proclaiming that other people aren't real Christians and that the bible says that god doesn't want people to be gay. That's not the topic of this thread. The topic of the thread is various religious groups either changing their ways to conform with modern social movements, or not. Why don't you stay on topic?



No you don't. You make up context all the time. I've seen you claim that Isiah 7:14 is a prophecy about the messiah, a claim that requires ignoring the entire rest of the chapter.

See, now you've got me on your wacky tangent. What the bible does or does not say is not the topic of this thread.

Who said women can't get into heaven?
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Wait wait wait, WOMEN can't get into heaven either? And people think that this scripture is somehow worth taking as meaningful lessons?
Where do you get that from?


See, now you've got me on your wacky tangent. What the bible does or does not say is not the topic of this thread.
Let's move back to the topic then.

Do you think any church will hold out?

The only one I think that will is the Catholic church.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Let's move back to the topic then.

Do you think any church will hold out?

The only one I think that will is the Catholic church.

I think that any religious organization that stands too hard against social change will find itself severely lacking in membership. The Mormons realized this and did away with their overt polygamy and racism. Judaism (the majority of American Jews are reform) is shedding its biblically derived bigotry. I think the real lesson is "stand in the way of progress at your own risk".
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I think that any religious organization that stands too hard against social change will find itself severely lacking in membership. The Mormons realized this and did away with their overt polygamy and racism. Judaism (the majority of American Jews are reform) is shedding its biblically derived bigotry. I think the real lesson is "stand in the way of progress at your own risk".

I agree, if you have old backward views than the reality of progress will leave you behind.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I would have to say the SBC will be the last to give up their passive hatred for the gays. Excuse me, I mean their hatred for the gay "sin."

They have mellowed in the last 25 years though. I remember being at service at 2nd Bapt. Church and the "Dr." Fred Young was on the pulpit doing his anti-gay crusade, circa 1986, telling everyone how they were demon possessed.

He showed a picture of a man he said could be easily found on Montrose Blvd. in Houston. I immediately recognized the picture to be that of Freddy Mercury.

He proceeded to tell the congregation how the demon actually deforms and distorts the body of a homosexual. Pointing at Freddie's overbite, etc. The picture looked something like this.

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Eventually, the Catholics are going to have to come to terms with homosexuality as their congregation becomes more and more tolerant, unlike the SBC, and they deal with their own internal issues regarding pedophilia, homosexuality and other assorted sexual issues.

I think the SBC will be the last to become tolerant.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

You really believe that don't you?

life·style
/ˈlīfˌstīl/Noun
The way in which a person or group lives: "the benefits of a healthy lifestyle".

No. Your problem is that you think homosexuals are sex crazed child molesters that want to take out heterosexuality. If you would like to tour the real world, you can clearly see that this is not the case.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I've noticed a lot of churches have been caving in to the demands of gay activists, so my question here is, which of the remaining 4 will still be standing after the dust settles?

Do you mean which religion will still be stuck in the dark ages when it comes to compassion and tolerance? Which religion will follow the path of extremist Islam?
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

The passage from Corinthians doesn't say anything against homosexuals.

have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites

Still nothing though you insist.

The only thing there that says anything against homosexuals is effeminate and sodomites. Sodomites are people who have sex through oral and/or anal, or people who have sex with animals. The only issue that you have here is simple enough. It's okay when a man and a woman commit sodomy, but not two same sex people. Interesting. Sounds like someone is only against it because it's "Icky"
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Glad you know how to take verses out of context. Great job!

Not out of context. Those are the verses we just skip over now a days because life has changed.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Do you mean which religion will still be stuck in the dark ages when it comes to compassion and tolerance? Which religion will follow the path of extremist Islam?
Which religion is that? I'm talking about good Christian churches that have resisted the charms of total selfishness. It's not easy putting up with the Left's steaming piles of enlightenment. ;)
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Not sure, hopefully those that adhere to Biblical truth instead of tossing it out or having some kind of "revelation" stating that homosexuality isn't sinful and morally right.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Simply not true. God inspired the entire Bible, all Scripture is God-Breathed. Since Jesus is God, one could argue that he did in fact speak against homosexuality.

You must consider Jesus to be very incompetent to think you are the one who speaks for Him and you are more important than Him. What utterly insulting hubris to think you know what is important and He does not.

Jesus spoke of many things, conducted sermon after sermon, and yet you think he is so feeble that he completely overlooked this supposedly wicked sin that so dominates your postings? If He shared your hatred, He would have said so and said so repeatedly BECAUSE he is the Son of God and knows what is important.

To think anything else shows such a contemptuous and dismissive attitude towards Jesus that a person must think Jesus follows them instead of the other way around.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Which religion is that? I'm talking about good Christian churches that have resisted the charms of total selfishness. It's not easy putting up with the Left's steaming piles of enlightenment. ;)

Its not easy putting up with the hate filled debates from the Right.
 
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