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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing

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re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Successful cultures doesn't equal right and moral.
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Right and moral are relative so your point is irrelevant.
 
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Dooble said:
Wrong. It's a commandment from God. Heterosexuals are the only ones who can be fruitful and multiply, so clearly he is referring to them. Now grab a Bible and point out where God has the same kind of edict for homosexuals.
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Wrong. Homosexuals can also procreate. Basic biology... if the equipment works, procreation can happen. God makes no distinction with one's orientation. Now, go grab a bible and point out where God has said ANYTHING about sexual orientation.
 
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Bob Blaylock said:
1.)I've been a Mormon all my life (fifty years, so far), as were all my parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. My great-great grandfather, Edwin Rushton was a friend and acquaintance of Joseph Smith.
2.) I think I can claim some credible expertise with regard to what it is that I have been taught, what I have practiced, and what I have believed, as a Mormon.
3.) You, on the other hand are very obviously completely ignorant on the subject; and yet, it is certainly completely consistent with your general practices on this forum to claim greater expertise on a subject about which you clearly know nothing at all, that someone who has been living that subject for longer than you've likely been alive.
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1.) cool story, whoopty doo whats this mean? oh thats right nothign
2.) ooooh, ok well theres the problem right there, you are thinking, that usually turns out bad for you
3.) wrong again im just going buy what people actually say

as usually you are 100% factaully wrong and you being dishonest still wont change the facts. Please post again becase it will effect nothing. Like i said your OPINION is meaningless to the facts.

sorry but the fact remains there are still Mormons that do not allow blacks to lay in priesthood and they can not participate in most temple ordinances, including the endowment and celestial marriage. they believe to still be the mark of cain and to be a curse. Its racist and they still exist, whether you agree with these Mormons or not is meaningless to their beliefs. You lose to facts again.

but to further my entertainment PLEASE PLEASE tell me why you think they dont exist, i cant wait to read this.
You lose to facts again
 
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Cephus said:
So far, that's not the case. Which gaps, specifically, do you think will never be filled?
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So far it is 100% the case. Science hasn't filled a single "gap".

And you can respond to me any time you want, I don't have to invite you to do so. Freedom is a wonderful thing, isn't it? I'm not mixing science and theology, I'm pointing out that one has reality and the other has nothing but fantasy.
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Spirituality my be fantasy to you, that further proves that science has no place in it.


I don't care about your beliefs and never specifically mentioned your beliefs, have I? I've said I'm pointing out the absurdity of religion, not your religion. Of course, I'm willing to bet that your religion is just as absurd, but that's neither here nor there, it isn't part of any claim I've made.
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My beliefs don't have to be rational to you, i am not forcing you to have them or even respect them. I don't know what you are attempting to accomplish by stating that something you clearly don't understand is absurd.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Then what are you ranting and raving about gay people for? Of they pay for their sin with death just like you will, what is with you're insisting that they aren't Christian?
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I won't receive death because I now follow Christ. Big difference.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Genesis describes procreation and where God commands man to be "fruitful and multiply". This discusses penis-vaginal sexual behavior. Notice the word I placed in bold. God does not command man to BE heterosexual.
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Yes he does, he created us to be heterosexual. Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve as they say. He further confirmed that throughout the Bible.
 
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paddymcdougall said:
Oh, I'm sure there will still be plenty of places for you to worship with others who share your biased views.
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You say that like its a bad thing.
Its unfortunate that gays just cant or wont accept that some people for reason of their own will not accept them and their agenda.
I dont agree with the gay agenda, yet I socialize with gay people with no issue. I dont shove my views and beliefs down their throats and I expect they dont do it to me.
I think its fair.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
I won't receive death because I now follow Christ. Big difference.
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I will receive eternal life because Jesus is my Shepard.

Your hang up with sexuality is immaterial.

You interjected yourself into something that you have no place in. Woe by onto those that attempt to drive a wedge between the Lord and his purple.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I will receive eternal life because Jesus is my Shepard.

Your hang up with sexuality is immaterial.

You interjected yourself into something that you have no place in. Woe by onto those that attempt to drive a wedge between the Lord and his purple.
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Jesus is not your shepherd if you openly flaunt and advocate sin. That is misguided.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Jesus is not your shepherd if you openly flaunt and advocate sin. That is misguided.
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But how about those who only invoke His name for hateful purposes but refuse to follow His actual words?
 
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Gardener said:
But how about those who only invoke His name for hateful purposes but refuse to follow His actual words?
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If that was actually happening.....
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
If that was actually happening.....
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You follow Paul, not Jesus.

You have all but admitted as much in other threads when you placed Paul's words as being more important than Jesus'.
 
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Gardener said:
You follow Paul, not Jesus.

You have all but admitted as much in other threads when you placed Paul's words as being more important than Jesus'.
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Never once have I said, or asserted that actually. Neither of them contradict each other as well. Nice try.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Never once have I said, or asserted that actually. Neither of them contradict each other as well. Nice try.
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Of course Paul contradicts Jesus. In several areas he does.

Do us a solid, though, and kindly quote all those sermons of Jesus condemning homosexuality. It's put up or shut up time.

Chapter and verse.

Now!
 
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upsideguy said:
No. While I appreciate that it looks that trivial to an outsider and perhaps to far too many Christians, that is not that way the confession/forgiveness process works.



God forgives the confessed sin of the sinner with the repentant heart. There must be sincere conviction on the part of the sinner and a desire to change his/her ways. Yes, God will forgive the same sin many times ("....not seven times, but seventy times seven...")... but the core of forgiveness is the heart of repentance AND forgiving those that sin against you with the same heart that God forgives us.

It's not about going to confession and saying a prayer; its about saying a prayer of confession with a heart of regret and sorrow.

2 Chronicles 7:13-14 NKJV - When I shut up heaven and there is no - Bible Gateway

Matthew 18 ESV

The root of forgiveness is conviction (recognizing the sin and prayerfully confessing it) and repentance (a sincere desire to change your ways).

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as a former Catholic, I know how it is supposed to work ... I wasn't talking about the way it is supposed to work ... and I know about the priests that were repentant every time they molested a child, even if it was dozens of times ... and I know they were sincere because the Church protected them ...
 
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Gardener said:
Of course Paul contradicts Jesus. In several areas he does.

Do us a solid, though, and kindly quote all those sermons of Jesus condemning homosexuality. It's put up or shut up time.

Chapter and verse.

Now!
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That's not how this works as I have told you. Just because something is not found in the Words of Christ, does not mean it is not Scripture. You can quit using that failed argument now.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
That's not how this works as I have told you. Just because something is not found in the Words of Christ, does not mean it is not Scripture. You can quit using that failed argument now.
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Trying to use scripture to defend/promote a homophobe agenda is a failed argument
 
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Quag said:
Trying to use scripture to defend/promote a homophobe agenda is a failed argument
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Not a homophobe actually.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
That's not how this works as I have told you. Just because something is not found in the Words of Christ, does not mean it is not Scripture. You can quit using that failed argument now.
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Yeah, I knew you would refuse to admit the truth so would resport to some sort of lame cop out.

Have you ever considered the many benefits of honesty? Perhaps if you were to start following Jesus instead of anything BUT Jesus, you might head a bit more in that direction.
 
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Gardener said:
Yeah, I knew you would refuse to admit the truth so would resport to some sort of lame cop out.

Have you ever considered the many benefits of honesty? Perhaps if you were to start following Jesus instead of anything BUT Jesus, you might head a bit more in that direction.
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You attempt to argue that I don't follow Jesus is failed. Paul and Jesus taught the same thing in case you didn't know....
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Not a homophobe actually.
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I didn't say you were (though from your comments it wouldn't surprise me) I said you were trying to defend/promote a homophobe agenda using scripture and that is a failed argument.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
You attempt to argue that I don't follow Jesus is failed.
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You can't even quote Jesus. You reference only that which supports your bigotry and do so in very weasly fashion.

You thump your bible, but hate the actual word of Jesus. If you loved the word of Jesus, you would be quoting Him, not a bunch of Pharisees.
 
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Quag said:
I didn't say you were (though from your comments it wouldn't surprise me) I said you were trying to defend/promote a homophobe agenda using scripture and that is a failed argument.
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But that is not what I am trying to defend. I'm defending a morality agenda.
 
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Gardener said:
You can't even quote Jesus. You reference only that which supports your bigotry and do so in very weasly fashion.

You thump your bible, but hate the actual word of Jesus. If you loved the word of Jesus, you would be quoting Him, not a bunch of Pharisees.
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Not true, and perhaps you don't understand Christianty. :shrug: :spin: :alert
 
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Quag said:
I didn't say you were (though from your comments it wouldn't surprise me) I said you were trying to defend/promote a homophobe agenda using scripture and that is a failed argument.
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It's pretty obvious who is engaging in the actual agenda, isn't it?

It's a common trick when the aggressors accuse the targets of their aggression as being the ones with an agenda. It is a classic agitprop technique where the actions of the perp are projected upon their targets.

It's odd to me how "Stop persecuting us" is seen as the agenda while the dishonst bleatings of those who thump their bible but won't follow Jesus somehow aren't.
 
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