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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

obvious Child said:
How has this thread not gotten flushed to the basement?
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At one point Dooble said that progressives turn into homosexuals. At that point I knew the thread would be flushed, but nope. It just keeps chugging along.
 
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Dooble said:
Uh-uh. Gays getting married changes the dynamics of how marriage is supposed to be. One man, one woman = stable society. One man, everyone (everything?) else = total chaos.
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So allowing two people of the same sex to obtain marriage privileges somehow destabilizes society? How, exactly? Homosexuals will be in relationships with or without marriage licenses. All you are doing is using government to deny them privileges all other couples get. Your notion that if two people in a long-term committed relationship receive government benefits society will deteriorate makes no sense whatsoever.

Wrong. YOU don't get to change what marriage has been to American married couples and religious groups in society for over 200 years.
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Actually, less than 100 years ago marriage was only allowed between people of the same race. So marriage has meant many different things to American couples and religious groups over the past 200 years, and you would be foolish to think it has remained the same. Changes do happen, and you have no right to violate the constitutional right of equal protection to stop them.
 
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Ontologuy said:
I see .. you're differentiating between the condition of homosexuality and the acts of homosexuality.

The RCC perspective on the etiology of homosexuality may be agnostic .. but their view about the behavior of homosexuality is hellacious!

And, it's the behavior in the matter they're really essentially focused upon, obviously.
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I'm not agreeing with the Catholic Church on how they view homosexuality and homosexual behavior. Your claim that the Catholic Church views homosexuality as a choice was simply false. Nothing more needs to be said.
 
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Lakryte said:
So allowing two people of the same sex to obtain marriage privileges somehow destabilizes society? How, exactly?
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Did I not just spell it out for you? The math is not fuzzy, Lakryte.

Lakryte said:
Actually, less than 100 years ago marriage was only allowed between people of the same race.
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Actually, that's a wonderful story for people of the same race. It does nothing, however, for people with behavioral problems (homosexuals).
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

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C'mon. You KNOW you want him. This guy could be a priest!
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Cardinal said:
At one point Dooble said that progressives turn into homosexuals. At that point I knew the thread would be flushed, but nope. It just keeps chugging along.
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I said Progressives evolve into homosexuals, Cardinal. There's a difference. I suspect it would be a very high honor for them, yes?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
Uh-uh. Gays getting married changes the dynamics of how marriage is supposed to be. One man, one woman = stable society. One man, everyone (everything?) else = total chaos.
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How does that work, exactly? Total chaos is created by introducing non-traditional family units... how?
 
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Org said:
How does that work, exactly? Total chaos is created by introducing non-traditional family units... how?
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Well, "total chaos," might be a bit too strong. I could care less if gays marry or whatever. It will not effect me one way or another. To be "total," would mean everyone would be messed up in the head about it. Loud as they may be, I submit there really are only a handful of people in our society that have this psychological defect.

But, I am convinced that there are some people in this world that would let something like sanctioned gay marriage totally boggle their mind and send them into chaos.

Many come across as unstable from the get go. I find people with that type of psyche would most likely let something send their world into chaos anyways. If not queers, it would just be something else. It was not meant for them to find contention. Such is life, I suppose.
 
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Dooble said:
I said Progressives evolve into homosexuals, Cardinal. There's a difference. I suspect it would be a very high honor for them, yes?
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I still like girls
 
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Dooble said:
I'm talking about future generations, not us. We already understand the importance of heterosexual marriage, and actually live it. You haven't experienced the full effect of this perversion, but when you do, you'll know how to weather that s*** storm. Our children won't unless you teach them otherwise.
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It works the same for them. Only they can choose to honor marriage. It makes no difference what others do or don't do. Frankly, have you seen how heterosexuals on the whole are treating marriage? Your argument loses a lot of credibility when you don't recognize the real problems. Let give you a list that effects marriage more than same sex ever will:

1) we live longer, making til death a serious consideration.

2) No one is dependent on the other any more. Both can be successful and fool around, and not just the male.

3) Most people know people divorced, or grew up in divorced homes, or have anything but traditional home lives. The world has changed. And it doesn't matter how either of us feels about it. It's the reality.

4) Technology has helped us to see things as instant, and relationships are slow to build, usually born of fire to cement the bond. Instant doesn't allow for that.

Deal with those four before you start worrying over a couple of consenting not related adult humans sharing their love and commitment with one another.
 
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Dooble said:
I said Progressives evolve into homosexuals, Cardinal. There's a difference. I suspect it would be a very high honor for them, yes?
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And hate and ignorance evolves into more and hate and ignorance. There's not really much difference, but just more intense forms of the same.
 
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Removable Mind said:
And hate and ignorance evolves into more and hate and ignorance. There's not really much difference, but just more intense forms of the same.
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Agreed. I wonder why your side is so full of hate and ignorance, RM?
 
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Dooble said:
Agreed. I wonder why your side is so full of hate and ignorance, RM?
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It might be because we've been taught so well by your side...if you have a side... who would admit being on your side. You might take advantage of hating bigotry as much as we do...because it revolves around so much ignorance.
 
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Dooble said:
Did I not just spell it out for you? The math is not fuzzy, Lakryte.
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No, you didn't. You just asserted it. Answer the question and tell me how allowing two people of the same sex to obtain marriage privileges destabilizes society in any way.

Actually, that's a wonderful story for people of the same race. It does nothing, however, for people with behavioral problems (homosexuals).
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It shows that who gets marriage privileges changes, so saying marriage has been the same for 200 years in the US is false. Not only that, it is a fallacious appeal to tradition. Again, you have fallacies and assertions, no arguments.
 
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obvious Child said:
How has this thread not gotten flushed to the basement?
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Should have been flushed the moment it was made. "gay agenda" in the title is nothing but antagonism.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

chromium said:
Should have been flushed the moment it was made. "gay agenda" in the title is nothing but antagonism.
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What's your take on these two:

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National Gay and Lesbian Task Force | building LGBT political power from the ground up

And this will help you in the event that your need to downplay bursts forward:

http://www.thetaskforce.org/downloads/about_us/about_the_TF_2_12.pdf
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
I understand that YOU put homosexual behavior in the same playing field as skin color and gender. You don't get to do that.
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Er...well...he can? It's his opinion, and really the science isn't clear either way, so...
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
Er...well...he can? It's his opinion, and really the science isn't clear either way, so...
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So... we can look forward to your objection to SSM until the science becomes clear, yes?
 
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Dooble said:
So... we can look forward to your objection to SSM until the science becomes clear, yes?
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Why would I care what other people do?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Removable Mind said:
It might be because we've been taught so well by your side...if you have a side... who would admit being on your side. You might take advantage of hating bigotry as much as we do...because it revolves around so much ignorance.
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That certainly explains the self loathing on the Left. Are you a closet Leftist masquerading as an Independent?
 
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Dooble said:
That certainly explains the self loathing on the Left. Are you a closet Leftist masquerading as an Independent?
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bye bye...don't have time to waste on persons like you...or on your side.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
So... we can look forward to your objection to SSM until the science becomes clear, yes?
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WHy does the science have to be clear for someone to support SSM? Even if it happened to be a choice (which I doubt), why would I care?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

OldWorldOrder said:
Why would I care what other people do?
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Because you're here, debating with me. You certainly care what I'm doing.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
Because you're here, debating with me. You certainly care what I'm doing.
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Uhhh...no I don't? Kiss as many dudes as you want, man.
 
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