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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I found it mildly amusing
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Aside from the fact that is merely your opinion,
The only person here with an opinion, CA, is you. I've spoken with gays who once ran straight. This is no big mystery, and you're a complete liar if you think otherwise.

Again, that is a matter of personal faith, not necessarily a FACT.
Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Chew on this tasty morsel below:

Timeline of same-sex marriage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Furthermore, the "franchise" for men was the exclusive right to vote pre-19th Amendment. The right to freedom and all citizenship rights was the exclusive "franchise" of non-blacks pre-civil war. Both of these were also justified as "God-given" and "normal" social conditions.
Once again, behavior does not get the same consideration as skin tone. Blacks + marriage = Good. Homosexuals + marriage = Bad. One man, one woman, one marriage. THAT is the franchise.
 
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The only person here with an opinion, CA, is you. I've spoken with gays who once ran straight. This is no big mystery, and you're a complete liar if you think otherwise.

There is no such thing as a "gay who ran straight." If a person is now gay but claims he used to be "straight," then in fact he was a closet case afraid to act on his orientation until he was old enough to accept and deal with it. Who knows, maybe because they know of your aversion for gay people they say this to try to stay friends with you for some unknown reason. Straight men might experiment, but they do not turn gay. Period!

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Chew on this tasty morsel below: Timeline of same-sex marriage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Once again, behavior does not get the same consideration as skin tone. Blacks + marriage = Good. Homosexuals + marriage = Bad. One man, one woman, one marriage. THAT is the franchise.

Once again, your faux anecdotal evidence is B/S and proves nothing except you have no leg to stand on in your claim Homosexuality is merely a chosen "behavior." BTW, a franchise as you use the term is a license, making it a privilege when in fact it is a right. Are you trying to say you have no right to marry a person of the opposite sex? That this is a privilege that can be taken away from all heterosexuals somehow? In any case, however you label it, if you can do it and they cannot, you are granting yourself a special right to something.

WTF does that timeline have to do with the price of rice in China? Meaning why do you think it means anything at all? Need I put up a timeline on Abolition, or a timeline on Women's Suffrage?

All civil rights efforts start somewhere, usually once someone suffering the denial of rights gets up the courage to participate in the effort to gain recognition of them.

In any case, you are still demanding a "special right" for heterosexuals when you refuse to allow homosexuals the same right. This runs contrary to your quoted statement supporting their access to ANY right you had. Yet you cling to your denial of this right to homosexuals while claiming it only exists for heterosexuals.

Probably because you can't recognize prejudice and hypocracy.
 
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There is no such thing as a "gay who ran straight."
How can you possibly know this, and not be all knowing? Are you, also, omniscient?

Once again, your faux anecdotal ....
blah, blah, blah. "Faux". A favorite attack word among rabid liberals. That's my cue to shut this part of your blather, right down. ;)

WTF does that timeline have to do with the price of rice in China?
Nothing. That's why I have to shut this part of your nonsense down, too.

All civil rights efforts start somewhere, usually once someone suffering the denial of rights gets up the courage to participate in the effort to gain recognition of them.
Homosexuality is not skin tone. Homosexuality is not gender, therefore, homosexuals do not get the same consideration in this case. How many times must I drill that into your liberal skull?
 
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How can you possibly know this, and not be all knowing? Are you, also, omniscient?

I know this because there is no evidence (aside from anecdotal types like your "I know a couple of guys") which demonstrates any inherently straight male or female has ever "gone gay" by choice. How exactly does that work BTW? Two str8 guys are walking down the street and one says to the other: "Hey, I've suddenly developed a desire to give a guy oral sex, wanna go for it? and the other says "Wonderful idea, I never thought of that! Lets do and try anal too!" Then they both swear off women forever thanks to this "life-changing discovery?" :2rofll:

blah, blah, blah. "Faux". A favorite attack word among rabid liberals. That's my cue to shut this part of your blather, right down. ;) Nothing. That's why I have to shut this part of your nonsense down, too.

Actually I was trying to be polite instead of simply calling "B/S." Of course you react from weakness with a refusal to respond. You really have no argument except personal faith and prejudice.

Homosexuality is not skin tone. Homosexuality is not gender, therefore, homosexuals do not get the same consideration in this case. How many times must I drill that into your liberal skull?

And again with the refusal to see similarity in a civil rights issue. Stop harping on the "skin tone" thing as if that's your winning argument. You keep ignoring that white women were denied the right to vote simply because they were women and men didn't think politics was any of their business. You also ignore past treatment of religious minorities. Then of course, every cultural and ethnic minority like the Irish, Italians, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc. have gone through a period of social abuses and attempts to deny them rights until they fully integrated within society. There are dozens and dozens of similar historical civil rights issues all of which you'll try to claim are "not behaviors" which thereby allows you to justify retaining a special right you would deny homosexual couples.

Labeling me a "liberal" ( I am not, nor am I a conservative; I have different views that run the range from one extreme to the other as well as moderate ones) in order to try to dismiss my viewpoint doesn't win you any points.

Wrong. It's normal thinking. It's how normal people think. It's how people who understand their biological functions, think. It's how people who aren't perverts, think. You get to marry the person you love and are attracted to because you are normal, in that respect.

I want homosexuals (and bisexuals for that matter) to have the same rights I have. Now they're getting more. Where's the justice in that?

Despite the fact the term "Normal" was shown to be relative using prior historical examples you persist in ignoring this seemingly out of pure spite. Worse, your argument for retaining a "special right" for heterosexuals is based on nothing more than personal prejudice. This demand to retain a special right for heterosexuals which you deny homosexuals simply proves from your own words you are a hypocrite.
 
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I know this because there is no evidence (aside from anecdotal types like your "I know a couple of guys") which demonstrates any inherently straight male or female has ever "gone gay" by choice. How exactly does that work BTW? Two str8 guys are walking down the street and one says to the other: "Hey, I've suddenly developed a desire to give a guy oral sex, wanna go for it? and the other says "Wonderful idea, I never thought of that! Lets do and try anal too!" Then they both swear off women forever thanks to this "life-changing discovery?" :2rofll:
Your story is incomplete. This is a MUCH more likely scenario, and FAR more honest: Let's say there's some married dude who's become bored with his wife and decides to have sex with other women. Well, you know the idiot will eventually get caught, so let's fast forward to his divorce. Now what? Well, he decides to get sexually active with the women he dates and eventually gets bored with that action too. Well, of course dude realizes that it's not cool to be bored, so now he starts looking for racy female partners and delves into the more forbidden zones of heterosexual activity. Well hell, he starts getting bored again. He's finally reached a point where chicks just aren't cutting it, and he hasn't reached the ceiling of his depravity, so now what? Well, curious George takes to the Internet and starts surfing. After mind numbing hours he finds himself viewing some gay video and that piques his interest a little. His interest grows over the next few days, and after several weeks of surfing gay porn, we finally reach your deceptive spin: "Two str8 guys are walking down the street (One is the idiot ex-husband, the other is a closet queer) and ex-husband says to the closeted one: "Hey, I've suddenly developed a desire to give a guy oral sex, wanna go for it? and the other says "Wonderful idea, I never thought of that! Lets do and try anal too!" Then they both swear off women forever thanks to this "life-changing discovery?". Yup, makes perfect sense to me. ;)

Actually I was trying to be polite
I know what you were trying to do, and didn't work.

And again with the refusal to see similarity in a civil rights issue.
Wrong. It's simply you ignoring facts to help advance Leftism. You're not embracing the gay agenda unwittingly, so I'll give you points for being honest about that.

Labeling me a "liberal" ( I am not, nor am I a conservative; I have different views that run the range from one extreme to the other as well as moderate ones) in order to try to dismiss my viewpoint doesn't win you any points.
I don't need points. I won this debate before it even started. This is just me helping you understand why.
 
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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

A heterosexual doesn't decide to experiment with dudes. You have to be either homosexual or bisexual, or a sadistic sob who is doing something in about sex.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Marriage is between one man and one woman. That's the franchise. That's the way it was at the first marriage of time, and that's the way it was at the first marriage of this country.

Not anymore, it's not. Sorry.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Not anymore, it's not. Sorry.
Apology accepted. You're full of it, however, but apology accepted.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Apology accepted. You're full of it, however, but apology accepted.

Have you been paying attention to the news? 14 countries outside of the US, 13 States plus DC within the US all have legalized same sex marriage. Your contention that it does not exist is debunked.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Marriage is between one man and one woman. That's the franchise.

and it always will be,
That's just the way it is
Some things will never change
That's just the way it is
don't you believe them
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

and it always will be,
That's just the way it is
Some things will never change
That's just the way it is
don't you believe them

Seems to me that lots of white folks used to say that about black slavery...

They were wrong too.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

But the Catholics are largely becoming irrelevant, they are hemorrhaging members worldwide, even in their traditional strongholds. In the next couple of decades, unless there's a major turnaround, organized religion is going to be largely a thing of the past.

In what sort of parallel universe do you live?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Have you been paying attention to the news? 14 countries outside of the US, 13 States plus DC within the US all have legalized same sex marriage. Your contention that it does not exist is debunked.
Yes I have been paying attention to the news. It's been an ongoing report of US States caving in. But at some point, the United States, as a whole, will fight back and stop this travesty. We will stop this because gay marriage is as un-American as Communism.
 
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Yes I have been paying attention to the news. It's been an ongoing report of US States caving in. But at some point, the United States, as a whole, will fight back and stop this travesty. We will stop this because gay marriage is as un-American as Communism.

Yeah, because discrimination and treating other humans like they were sub-human is what freedom is all about. I hate to tell you this, but you are 100% wrong. Not only it it going to reverse, one way or another, within the next not to many years, SSM will be the law of the land in all 50 States. Mark my words, it's not a matter of if, only when, and how.

50 years from now people will look back on those who have your attitude with the same disgust and revolt as we currently look back at those who fought ending slavery.
 
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Yeah, because discrimination and treating other humans like they were sub-human is what freedom is all about.
No it isn't. That's your side.

I hate to tell you this, but you are 100% wrong. Not only it it going to reverse, one way or another, within the next not to many years, SSM will be the law of the land in all 50 States. Mark my words, it's not a matter of if, only when, and how.
Your threats mean zilch to real Americans. Why don't you go cozy up with the Communist Manifesto?

50 years from now people will look back on those who have your attitude with the same disgust and revolt as we currently look back at those who fought ending slavery.
50 years from now America will have two sides to it: Your side, which will be a cesspool of crime, oppression, tyranny and every perversion one can imagination, and my side: A society of peace, liberty, success and strong moral values.
 
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50 years from now America will have two sides to it: Your side, which will be a cesspool of crime, oppression, tyranny and every perversion one can imagination, and my side: A society of peace, liberty, success and strong moral values.

You keep telling yourself that. 50 years from now, dinosaurs who think it's still the 18th Century and that their religious dogma ought be enforced upon all will thankfully be extinct. It's already happening, that's why support for SSM has shifted so dramatically in the past 10 years. Every geezer that dies off who is opposed to SSM is replaced on the voting rolls by a fresh 18 year old who thinks that position is stupid.
 
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You keep telling yourself that. 50 years from now, dinosaurs who think it's still the 18th Century and that their religious dogma ought be enforced upon all will thankfully be extinct. It's already happening, that's why support for SSM has shifted so dramatically in the past 10 years. Every geezer that dies off who is opposed to SSM is replaced on the voting rolls by a fresh 18 year old who thinks that position is stupid.
50 years from now, your side is going to look exactly like San Quentin Prison.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

In what sort of parallel universe do you live?

The real one, you need to keep up on current events. Religion is failing across the board.
 
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50 years from now, your side is going to look exactly like San Quentin Prison.

At the risk of being repetitive, keep telling yourself that. Look around, bro. Can't you see that you've already lost?
 
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At the risk of being repetitive, keep telling yourself that. Look around, bro. Can't you see that you've already lost?

The religious are already delusional, why are you surprised?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

At the risk of being repetitive, keep telling yourself that. Look around, bro. Can't you see that you've already lost?
Dude, nobody wins when perversion prevails. Besides, show me where 37 - 13 has ever been a loss. The SC may have folded, but the states will ultimately put a stop to this madness.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

The religious are already delusional, why are you surprised?
Don't you ever get tired of shilling for the Left?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I've noticed a lot of churches have been caving in to the demands of gay activists, so my question here is, which of the remaining 4 will still be standing after the dust settles?

You mean what Christian denomination?

If you want a religion that would stand its ground against the gay agenda it would be Islam.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

If you want a religion that would stand its ground against the gay agenda it would be Islam.
Agreed. In fact, I envision some kind of war being waged between Islam and Militant Leftists.

But I chose Christian religions because they help define the US. Islam does not. Among the Christian churches, I believe it will be the LDS, and possibly Roman Catholic.
 
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