• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing


  • Total voters
    82
  • Poll closed .
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Sage advice for drivers of the gay agenda.

So, you STILL haven't learned that the "Gay Agenda" is a set of false points invented by the extreme religious right, have you? Doesn't surprise me, though. You seem to buy into whatever fallacies that side of the political coin presents.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Sorry, guys. I'm here to tell you, not convince you. Your points of view are jacked up, and I think a part of each one of you is fascinated that some stranger on the Internet sees right through your bull****.

Here's the problem. You have presented nothing of accuracy... which is SOP from someone with your "agenda" and have been refuted at every point. You also have been shown to not understand the basics of the issue or basic definitions. Now, it must suck to have your entire position rendered non-credible, but you might want to educate yourself on topics before attempting to discuss them.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No. Your problem is that you think homosexuals are sex crazed child molesters that want to take out heterosexuality. If you would like to tour the real world, you can clearly see that this is not the case.

:spin: :alert

Never said, or thought that.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Not out of context. Those are the verses we just skip over now a days because life has changed.

Not true actually.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

You must consider Jesus to be very incompetent to think you are the one who speaks for Him and you are more important than Him. What utterly insulting hubris to think you know what is important and He does not.

Jesus spoke of many things, conducted sermon after sermon, and yet you think he is so feeble that he completely overlooked this supposedly wicked sin that so dominates your postings? If He shared your hatred, He would have said so and said so repeatedly BECAUSE he is the Son of God and knows what is important.

To think anything else shows such a contemptuous and dismissive attitude towards Jesus that a person must think Jesus follows them instead of the other way around.

:spin: :alert

Not how the Bible works.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No he didn't. He created us to procreate. That's a behavior and is not the same as sexual orientation. Please learn the difference.

Sexual orientation is a made up term to excuse the behavior.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

You obviously don't know much about the bible. The story of Sodom and Gommorah is where the word Sodom was created. Now, we know that the story itself was not about homosexuality, and the word has been perverted by the extremely religious to mean something that it didn't, but it did originate with that particular part of the bible.

Did I say that it didn't? I said that is not what Sodomite means though. And it was about Homosexuality actually. Men having sex with men.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I've noticed a lot of churches have been caving in to the demands of gay activists, so my question here is, which of the remaining 4 will still be standing after the dust settles?

What do you mean by caving in? And what demands are you talking about?
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

:spin: :alert

Not how the Bible works.

Not how you work the bible, anyway :roll:

Since you are so hell bent on ignoring Jesus and following all that He railed against, why aren't you out picketing a Red Lobster or something?

So many abominations, so little time........
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Not how you work the bible, anyway :roll:

Since you are so hell bent on ignoring Jesus and following all that He railed against, why aren't you out picketing a Red Lobster or something?

So many abominations, so little time........

You do not understand me, nor the Bible.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

You do not understand me, nor the Bible.

The bible is irrelevant when talking about homosexual rights it is in fact irrelevant except on a personal level. You CANNOT use it to defend/attack/promote/impede anyone or anything else
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

It's not speaking for him, it is fact that he would tell them to go and sin no more as He did with all people who were willing to follow Him.

you claiming it is a fact when there is no evidence is speaking for him.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

You do not understand me, nor the Bible.

I understand that you use "the bible" without any consideration for what Jesus actually said, try to claim He had attitudes He never expressed, make no distinction between Jesus, Paul or the words of the Pharisees and try to twist and manipulate His message to confirm with your agenda, which happens to be the persecution of Gay people instead of anything Jesus actually taught.

No honest person could possibly say that Jesus was all about persecuting gay people since He never mentioned it. Only those who follow the deceivers Jesus warned about do that. Instead of all this clamoring over stuff Jesus never talked about, those purporting to be Christians would be better off opening up the N.T. reading His actual words and attempting to follow them. Only then could they call themselves Jesus' followers. As is, they are only Pharisees doing the bidding of deceivers when all they do is thump the bible while ignoring Jesus' message.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I understand that you use "the bible" without any consideration for what Jesus actually said, try to claim He had attitudes He never expressed, make no distinction between Jesus, Paul or the words of the Pharisees and try to twist and manipulate His message to confirm with your agenda, which happens to be the persecution of Gay people instead of anything Jesus actually taught.

No honest person could possibly say that Jesus was all about persecuting gay people since He never mentioned it. Only those who follow the deceivers Jesus warned about do that. Instead of all this clamoring over stuff Jesus never talked about, those purporting to be Christians would be better off opening up the N.T. reading His actual words and attempting to follow them. Only then could they call themselves Jesus' followers. As is, they are only Pharisees doing the bidding of deceivers when all they do is thump the bible while ignoring Jesus' message.

You have a distorted view of the Bible, and a warped definition of persecute. I am not persecuting anybody. I am saying they do not have a right to practice homosexuality.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Why pose as something you're not?
I was going to ask you the same thing.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

You have a distorted view of the Bible, and a warped definition of persecute. I am not persecuting anybody. I am saying they do not have a right to practice homosexuality.

You heard it here first, folks -- suggestions that people try to follow Jesus' message = "distorted view of the bible".
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

You have a distorted view of the Bible, and a warped definition of persecute. I am not persecuting anybody. I am saying they do not have a right to practice homosexuality.

And you would be wrong.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

And you would be wrong.

But he's right about people not having the right to eat shellfish, plant mixed crops in a field, or wear cloth made of mixed fibres.

You do have to give him credit for that.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I understand that you use "the bible" without any consideration for what Jesus actually said, try to claim He had attitudes He never expressed, make no distinction between Jesus, Paul or the words of the Pharisees and try to twist and manipulate His message to confirm with your agenda, which happens to be the persecution of Gay people instead of anything Jesus actually taught.

No honest person could possibly say that Jesus was all about persecuting gay people since He never mentioned it. Only those who follow the deceivers Jesus warned about do that. Instead of all this clamoring over stuff Jesus never talked about, those purporting to be Christians would be better off opening up the N.T. reading His actual words and attempting to follow them. Only then could they call themselves Jesus' followers. As is, they are only Pharisees doing the bidding of deceivers when all they do is thump the bible while ignoring Jesus' message.
Since when was upholding a law persecution against gay people? I mean, I was in full support of DOMA and the legal definition of marriage, and yet, I'm still considered to be a knuckle dragging bigot by the Democrats. See, here's the problem: If the Left doesn't like something, then that something must be wrong. This is how liberals think. For example: The question might be asked "How do I know that what I think and feel is correct?" The Left's answer would be, "Ask a liberal; if you get a green light, then just do it. You can guilt society into embracing your advanced sense of evolvement along the way". But the correct answer would be, "What are the laws of society? If you're not breaking those laws, then roll with it. But if you don't like those laws, then simply petition to have them changed, BEFORE you do it. If you are unsuccessful, then rest at ease knowing that not everyone can have what they want, ALL the time, in a civilized society".
 
Last edited:
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Since when was upholding a law persecution against gay people? I mean, I was in full support of DOMA and the legal definition of marriage, and yet, I'm still considered to be a knuckle dragging bigot by the Democrats. See, here's the problem: If the Left doesn't like something, then that something must be wrong. This is how liberals think. For example: The question might be asked "How do I know that what I think and feel is correct?" The Left's answer would be, "Ask a liberal; if you get a green light, then just do it. You can guilt society into embracing your advanced sense of evolvement along the way". But the correct answer would be, "What are the laws of society? If you're not breaking those laws, then roll with it. But if you don't like those laws, then simply petition to have them changed, BEFORE you do it. If you are unsuccessful, then rest at ease knowing that not everyone can have what they want ALL the time".

Yay -- I get to be part of "the left"!! Finally!

It's about freaking time, too.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Yay -- I get to be part of "the left"!! Finally!

It's about freaking time, too.
And yet you needed me, a Conservative, to validate your feelings. How confused you must be.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Since when was upholding a law persecution against gay people? I mean, I was in full support of DOMA and the legal definition of marriage, and yet, I'm still considered to be a knuckle dragging bigot by the Democrats. See, here's the problem: If the Left doesn't like something, then that something must be wrong. This is how liberals think. For example: The question might be asked "How do I know that what I think and feel is correct?" The Left's answer would be, "Ask a liberal; if you get a green light, then just do it. You can guilt society into embracing your advanced sense of evolvement along the way". But the correct answer would be, "What are the laws of society? If you're not breaking those laws, then roll with it. But if you don't like those laws, then simply petition to have them changed, BEFORE you do it. If you are unsuccessful, then rest at ease knowing that not everyone can have what they want, ALL the time, in a civilized society".

Slavery was once legal does that mean it should still be? To equate legality with right is erroneous. Laws change over time to reflect society.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Since when was upholding a law persecution against gay people? I mean, I was in full support of DOMA and the legal definition of marriage, and yet, I'm still considered to be a knuckle dragging bigot by the Democrats. See, here's the problem: If the Left doesn't like something, then that something must be wrong. This is how liberals think. For example: The question might be asked "How do I know that what I think and feel is correct?" The Left's answer would be, "Ask a liberal; if you get a green light, then just do it. You can guilt society into embracing your advanced sense of evolvement along the way". But the correct answer would be, "What are the laws of society? If you're not breaking those laws, then roll with it. But if you don't like those laws, then simply petition to have them changed, BEFORE you do it. If you are unsuccessful, then rest at ease knowing that not everyone can have what they want, ALL the time, in a civilized society".

So people petitioned to have the law changed, DOMA got struck down, roll with.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Slavery was once legal does that mean it should still be? To equate legality with right is erroneous. Laws change over time to reflect society.
I'm talking about HOW you change the laws. Democrats largely ignore laws they disagree with when they're instituting change they can believe in. That's the difference.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

So people petitioned to have the law changed, DOMA got struck down, roll with.
Not before "people" starting getting married by rogue judges. That's the point. Roll with that.
 
Back
Top Bottom