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Rolling stone cover

Does the Rolling Stone cover offend you

  • yes, it pisses me off

    Votes: 15 26.3%
  • no, I like it

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • don't care, yaaaawn

    Votes: 41 71.9%

  • Total voters
    57
Yes you are right,so what is your point?
A good father wouldn't bring trash into his own home for his kids to be exposed to it.
A good father is supposed to teach their children not to play with trash themselves.
A good father is supposed to teach their children to dispose of their own trash.
A good father is supposed to instill values into their children so that they do not become trash themselves.
It is not my job to clean up everyone else's trash.
I'm a chef,not a garbageman.Me and my wife has always ran a "clean" household for our children.
How other people raise their kids is none of my concern,as long as those little monsters they are raising do not hurt my own children.Then it becomes my concern.

A good father is not only supposed to protect his children from the trash in the world,but to teach them how to deal with it themselves when they become of age.

It was because both me and my wife were too busy trying to raise our children to be productive and prosperous citizens to be concerned about who is on the cover of a magazine that our daughters are where they are at now.
My eldest daughter was too busy trying to get good grades, going to law school,passing the bar exam,landing a job at a large investment firm,striving to get promotions,meeting the man she loves,marrying him,buying a house,having a set of twins and raising my grandchildren themselves to worry about who is on the cover of Rolling Stone.
My middle daughter was to busy trying to get good grades,going to college to learn business management,going to culinary school to learn how to be a chef (just like her father),meeting the man she loves,marrying him,becoming the head chef of a nice fancy restaurant,buying a house,and her and her husband saving enough money to open up their own restaurant to worry about who is on the cover of Rolling Stone.
My youngest daughter was too busy getting good grades,getting to college,passing pre-med,going to a damn good medical college,and trying to graduate it to worry about who is on the cover of Rolling Stone.

Me and my wife have taught our daughters to follow their dreams,keep their eyes on the prize,and not let themselves be distracted by such trivial bull**** like who is on the cover of Rolling Stone.
That is why we Verthaine's are a prosperous and wealthy family.
We let others worry about the trash in the world.We are too busy trying to rise above the trash.[/QUOTE]

If you don't take out the trash it will bury you.
 
If you don't take out the trash it will bury you.

I am not sure how you can "Like" my last post and then disagree with Verthaine's method of dealing with an issue like this. "Liking" my post must have been a mistake , unless you can explain such a contradictory set of posts. You cannot have it "All Ways". Take your stand . . . and stand by it.
 
If you don't take out the trash it will bury you.

I have a housekeeper,taking out the trash is part of her job.Just being honest.
There is nothing wrong with employing a legal American housekeeper and paying her a fair wage,now is there?

If you want to go out and be the worlds garbage collector,be my guest,Sawyer.
I'm not going to stop you.
If you want to put on longjohns,a cape,a mask,call yourself "The Trash Disposer",and engage in a never-ending crusade to rid the world of Evil Trash,more power to you.
I have other things to do than be your side-kick.
And don't ask me to be your financial backer.
I am in the culinary business,not the superhero business.

I don't allow trash in my home,and me and my wife have taught our children to create as little trash as possible themselves,clean up the trash they do make,and deal with whatever trash other people bring them.
I've done my job as a parent.We all are leading productive lives,we have good careers,and we live in nice houses.

I haven't bought an issue of Rolling Stone in my life. The only magazines I read is Restaurant Magazine and Food Network because it's relevant to my career,and Boating Magazine,because I like to go boating.
My wife reads ESPN magazine,because she likes sports.

I don't own any stock in Wenner Media LLC (Rolling Stone's Owner).
So I don't exactly know what you want from us?

Wenner Media LLC is a privately owned company who can put whoever the hell they chose to put on their own magazine.
You don't have to buy their magazine if you don't want to.

Time Magazine once named Adolf Hitler "Man Of The Year".
Time Magazine is still around ( I see issues of it every time I go pick up my wife from her office).

If a picture on a magazine piss you off,I don't quite see what you want everyone to do about it?
What is it that you want ,Sawyer?
Do you want everyone here not to buy Rolling Stone Magazine?
Good luck getting that to happen.

I don't think a lot of the Conservative here read Rolling Stone to begin with.
The Liberals would probably go out and buy extra copies just to piss you off.
And those of us in the Middle probably have way too many other things to worry about than a magazine cover.
 
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What is it that you want ,Sawyer?

To be totally misunderstood. You said what I said . . . he "liked" my post, then a minute later, gave you crap. I am confused. But then again . . . it's not like his front porch philosophy hasn't confused me before. It's either that, or I am incredibly stupid . . . and that's a real possibility. So, there ya go . . . where ever you're at, that's where you are.
 
I'm far from conservative and I'd rather flush down the toilet the money rather than buy a magazine of *any* kind, let alone corporate music hip hop crap such as Rolling Stone. I wouldn't pay for any pamphlet created to sell you crap when we have the internet.



I suppose I just never realized people still buy magazines.. The internet exists after all....
 
I am not sure how you can "Like" my last post and then disagree with Verthaine's method of dealing with an issue like this. "Liking" my post must have been a mistake , unless you can explain such a contradictory set of posts. You cannot have it "All Ways". Take your stand . . . and stand by it.

Maybe I just liked it to annoy you.:lol:Then again maybe I read it the wrong way.
 
I have a housekeeper,taking out the trash is part of her job.Just being honest.
There is nothing wrong with employing a legal American housekeeper and paying her a fair wage,now is there?

If you want to go out and be the worlds garbage collector,be my guest,Sawyer.
I'm not going to stop you.
If you want to put on longjohns,a cape,a mask,call yourself "The Trash Disposer",and engage in a never-ending crusade to rid the world of Evil Trash,more power to you.
I have other things to do than be your side-kick.
And don't ask me to be your financial backer.
I am in the culinary business,not the superhero business.

I don't allow trash in my home,and me and my wife have taught our children to create as little trash as possible themselves,clean up the trash they do make,and deal with whatever trash other people bring them.
I've done my job as a parent.We all are leading productive lives,we have good careers,and we live in nice houses.

I haven't bought an issue of Rolling Stone in my life. The only magazines I read is Restaurant Magazine and Food Network because it's relevant to my career,and Boating Magazine,because I like to go boating.
My wife reads ESPN magazine,because she likes sports.

I don't own any stock in Wenner Media LLC (Rolling Stone's Owner).
So I don't exactly know what you want from us?

Wenner Media LLC is a privately owned company who can put whoever the hell they chose to put on their own magazine.
You don't have to buy their magazine if you don't want to.

Time Magazine once named Adolf Hitler "Man Of The Year".
Time Magazine is still around ( I see issues of it every time I go pick up my wife from her office).

If a picture on a magazine piss you off,I don't quite see what you want everyone to do about it?
What is it that you want ,Sawyer?
Do you want everyone here not to buy Rolling Stone Magazine?
Good luck getting that to happen.

I don't think a lot of the Conservative here read Rolling Stone to begin with.
The Liberals would probably go out and buy extra copies just to piss you off.
And those of us in the Middle probably have way too many other things to worry about than a magazine cover.

Nice rant.:)
 
Momma's apron strings are more dangerous than information about the world they'll be facing some day.
Depends on how that information is given, and how it is intended to be taken. Give me an example of how you expect my son to receive your views on the world.
 
Depends on how that information is given, and how it is intended to be taken. Give me an example of how you expect my son to receive your views on the world.

How your son "receives" other people's views depends on what you're teaching your son about other people's views.
 
How your son "receives" other people's views depends on what you're teaching your son about other people's views.
That goes without saying. What I'm trying to gauge, is how some of the world intends my son to receive its messages.
 
It's not like they set their standards high for moral figures and ethical standards, to boot, they've put all sorts of unethical and immoral people on the cover who wrapped their lives around drugs and light poles.

I don't know if you can compare the excesses of the music industry to an indiscriminate killer
 
Big whoop. 20% of the people that made Time magazine's Man of the Year have been genocidal, murderous asswipes.

I think context is key here. Time Magazine is putting people on the cover that have impacted the world, which inevitably includes people like Hitler. RS doesn't really do that and published a picture that tends to convey a positive image of a terrorist bomber

But as far as issues go, just don't buy it
 
As was said, Rolling Stone can put whoever they want on their cover and people will buy it or not, or never again. Charles Manson was on the cover back in the day too.

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wouldn't you say the context of the image is different? It seems the recent addition is much more positive in how it presents what ever his name is, even just on the visual level
 
That goes without saying. What I'm trying to gauge, is how some of the world intends my son to receive its messages.

Here's some breaking news for you

There are people with all sorts of intentions, good and bad, out there in the world. It's your job to teach your children how to deal with that. It's not RS's job

In addition, your post is full of ****. You originally argued about children being "exposed" to things, as opposed to having their parents shield them from it:

No, he's one of those concerned parents who thinks your idea of exposure might be dangerous for his kids.

Now, you're changing your tune, and it's all about determining other people's intent.
 
This faux outrage orchestrated by the right is simply payback for RS articles skewering some it icons including the NRA, the Koch Brothers, ALEC and others.
 
Here's some breaking news for you

There are people with all sorts of intentions, good and bad, out there in the world. It's your job to teach your children how to deal with that.
Again, that goes without saying.

It's not RS's job
Point out where I said it was.

In addition, your post is full of ****. You originally argued about children being "exposed" to things, as opposed to having their parents shield them from it:
Now you're just talking out of your ***. I want to know what you "the worldly" think my kid should be exposed to, and how he should receive it. Do you have an answer, or are you going to keep hammering away at me because my question has become too uncomfortable for you?

Now, you're changing your tune, and it's all about determining other people's intent.
Stop avoiding and just answer this simple question.
 
This faux outrage orchestrated by the right is simply payback for RS articles skewering some it icons including the NRA, the Koch Brothers, ALEC and others.

meh, most political outrage is fake. And while I agree this isn't some pressing issue, they certainly deserve some criticism over it.
 
But he's a Caucasian.


Yes I know but Caucasian is a very vague, inaccurate modern racial grouping to begin with. Many Arabs could fall into a visual "caucasian" label (as could many Mestizo mixes). Caucasian doesn't really mean white in many contexts for many people.


That said, what's interesting is that he threw in with some archaic, primordial Middle East desert fantasy made by Arabs and he's probably not even largely racially Arab, Asian. That's the true irony. Islam is the prime reason that part of the world has no respect globally.
 
Yes I know but Caucasian is a very vague, inaccurate modern racial grouping to begin with. Many Arabs could fall into a visual "caucasian" label (as could many Mestizo mixes). Caucasian doesn't really mean white in many contexts for many people.

Yes, you're right of course.


That said, what's interesting is that he threw in with some archaic, primordial Middle East desert fantasy made by Arabs and he's probably not even largely racially Arab, Asian. That's the true irony. Islam is the prime reason that part of the world has no respect globally.

Well, it might be part of it, but I don't see Indonesia as having quite the same problem (in terms of how others view it). And not because Indonesia has behaved better than Arab states. It has been worse than most, in fact.

Ironically, Indonesia undertook 25 years of mass murder in East Timor so severe that it can probably be termed "attempted genocide"...and the West was all happy and eager to help them in their endeavor. Intentionally and materially helping mass murder. (Same with the "communist" [sic] slaughter in Indonesia itself in 1965).

So part of the view point of "respect" might arise from our determining with whom we are allied in terror, rather than an objective view of their actual bad behavior.
 
Now you're just talking out of your ***. I want to know what you "the worldly" think my kid should be exposed to, and how he should receive it. Do you have an answer, or are you going to keep hammering away at me because my question has become too uncomfortable for you?

Stop avoiding and just answer this simple question.

The answers to your questions depend on several factors such as the age of your child and what you have taught your child. However, the fact remains that "shielding" a child until they become an adult (and in many cases, an adolescent) is not a realistic option.

And we're not talking about every possible thing a child may come in contact with. This thread is about the RS cover. Why does a child need to be shielded from seeing that?
 
But he's a Caucasian.
Help me understand: Do you Lefties like white jihadists, too? Or does the skin color not allow the enlightened to embrace him?
 
Help me understand: Do you Lefties like white jihadists, too? Or does the skin color not allow the enlightened to embrace him?

I genuinely don't understand what you're asking, here. The hostility is coming through, but not the meaning.
 
Another interesting aspect of Eastern European Caucasians from old Soviet states throwing in with Islam is that it's true, they aren't Arabs mixed with Asian in a majority of their genes. They truly are not. So it is very odd (and, frankly, pathetic) that they adopt and promote Islam which is absolutely the religion of the Arabs. The same is very much true of many Turks if we're being raw here. Most Turks are simply culturally Arabized mixed Caucasians.



In a very factual sense, if you want to see the failing parts of the world economically, technologically, progressively and other, all you have to do is find the Islamic countries. They are all at rock bottom unless you compare them to failed states such as the Congo or Zimbabwe.
 
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