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If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

If someone only molests young boys is he gay, a pedohile, or both

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Dooble said:
You've been putting out the vibe, and never even realized it. ;)
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I don't see how :shrug:

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Ryan5 said:
They're gay as they're having gay sex and attracted to a male.


They are also a sick organism with deep emotional and mental issues. Honestly such types truly need to have their minds wiped because you cannot "fix" a biological mental disease in someone. You can drug them but that doesn't fix it, it treats it. Mentally sick people will always be mentally sick.

Medications simply subdue their symptoms and manic episodes, they do not fix them and cannot. You can always trigger someone with these mental diseases because they're never truly "fixed" even when on medication. That's why you cannot truly help a pedophile. It's a biological issue. The only way to truly "fix" them would be to wipe their mind or physically operate on them.
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RabidAlpaca said:
I don't know, I think by the very definition of sexually molesting the same gender, regardless of age, will make you at a minimum bisexual.

If it's a kid, he's also a pedophile.

I'm not saying there's a correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia, but let's call a spade a spade. Sexual attraction to the same gender is homosexuality, regardless of the age.
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mak2 said:
With just this much information I would say by definition both. But I merely posted to keep up with where NP takes it. Funny how much some people think about this huh?
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mak2 said:
I said that because if a guy has some sort of sex with another guy, by definition it is homosexual sex. Just like if your girlfriend is a party bi...oooops got off track there for a second.
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Lakryte said:
He is certainly a pedophile. Can't say for certain if he is gay or not. Maybe, maybe not. Why do you ask, Navy? Are you trying to classify your own behavior?
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Gathomas88 said:
Going strictly off of the question posed by the OP, I think the answer would be "both."

An individual matching the description provided could be thought of as being a gay pedophile.
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DVSentinel said:
He is probably very gay right up until the police arrest him for being a homosexual pedophile.
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Rocketman said:
Male to male=gay, undeclared is no excuse and does not change the fact, Catholic priest that molest young boys are gay
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Its not "having gay sex with a male." In order to have "sex" with someone the victim needs to be able to respond sexually. Prepubescent kids typically can't respond, since their sexual organs have not reached full development.

Therefore, a pedophile is simply using them for his own gratification, much like a living "blow-up doll" you find in sex shoppes. The kids are too young to understand, much less respond sexually to this form of abuse.

The pedophile sees the victim as a living toy, something to play out his childhood fantasies with culminating in personal sexual gratification. This is why the bulk of mental health literature indicates the pedophile is neither heterosexual nor homosexual, but a corrupted orientation focused on children instead.

As one poster (was it Captain Courtesy?) stated, statistics indicate that the bulk of these individuals live everyday lives portraying heterosexual roles often being married and having their own children. In such cases they have abused their own children and then often use their children as lures to gain opportunities with whichever type of child they prefer; male, female or both.

To try to label them gay if they prefer boys, bi if they prefer both, or heterosexual if they prefer girls completely forgets that the children themselves are typically incapable of sexual activity. They can only be used.

In any case, they are mentally disturbed and pose a permanent threat to children. Once discovered as being active abusers, they should be exiled to a state mental institution. If and when a cure is found, then maybe we'll see about supervised release programs.
 
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Rocketman said:
Male to male=gay, undeclared is no excuse and does not change the fact, Catholic priest that molest young boys are gay
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Wrong.
 
sangha said:
I don't see how :shrug:

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Actually, picking that photo shows huge hypocrisy in terms of women can wear anything but men "who don't dress like men" are treated like freaks by most people. Sad.
 
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DVSentinel said:
He is probably very gay right up until the police arrest him for being a homosexual pedophile.
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No one is every arrested for being a "homosexual pedophile." They are arrested for aggravated sexual assault of a child. Get it right.
 
Cardinal said:
As I've never known any paedophiles (thank god), the closest thing to a documentary I've seen is The Woodsman starring Kevin Bacon in his creepiest role ever. It features a child molester who focuses exclusively on little girls, and in a bizarre twist finds an adversary in another child molester who focuses exclusively on little boys. I have absolutely no idea how accurate the movie is with regards to paedophiles.

It's a good movie, but I do not suggest it for date night.
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I've known pedophiles. At best, it could be argued they are bisexual only in some limited and pointless definitional way. But actually they are sadistic, amoral, violent men for which sexual orientation has nothing to do with it. They had sex with women, but more accurately it was women submitting to avoid being violent assaulted (beaten), so too for the children (ie boys), though girls weren't off the list if a girl was available. It isn't about the gender in terms of sexual desire in even the remotest normal psychological sense. It about power, abuse and degradation of an inferior male forced to submission including dominate sexual submission - ie the worst form of sadism.

Sex predators are about sadism, the deliberate desire to not just dominate, but to harm the other person physically and psychologically, for which the pleasure is not in the sex but rather pleasure in the other person's suffering and pain - which they had the power to cause.
 
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Ryan5 said:
They're gay as they're having gay sex and attracted to a male.


They are also a sick organism with deep emotional and mental issues. Honestly such types truly need to have their minds wiped because you cannot "fix" a biological mental disease in someone. You can drug them but that doesn't fix it, it treats it. Mentally sick people will always be mentally sick.

Medications simply subdue their symptoms and manic episodes, they do not fix them and cannot. You can always trigger someone with these mental diseases because they're never truly "fixed" even when on medication. That's why you cannot truly help a pedophile. It's a biological issue. The only way to truly "fix" them would be to wipe their mind or physically operate on them.
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I do not believe truly violent sadists can ever be cured. They can be contained by fear of retribution, but otherwise they are so psychologically disturbed and fundamentally amoral in proactive ways there is no cure.
 
joko104 said:
Actually, picking that photo shows huge hypocrisy in terms of women can wear anything but men "who don't dress like men" are treated like freaks by most people. Sad.
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Well yes, a man in a tutu is definitely making a statement. Besides, it's obvious that pic is not intended to be taken seriously.
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think?
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Being a pedophile has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with power and availability. So the whole "a guy that rapes a boy is really just a gay pedophile" is BS. In our society it is most often the case that boys will be left alone with people far more than girls so boys are easier pickings than girls.
 
shrubnose said:
If you haven't learned anything by now with your constant, single-minded focus on gay people, there's a damn good chance that you'll never learn.
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Agreed.


I think we should start a new poll:

If someone cannot stop talking about homosexuality - often in a negative light - do you think he is either gay or homophobic or both?

Notice there is no 'none of the above' option.
 
DA60 said:
Agreed.


I think we should start a new poll:

If someone cannot stop talking about homosexuality - often in a negative light - do you think he is either gay or homophobic or both?

Notice there is no 'none of the above' option.
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Start one, but maybe not on this board? What is notable is always asserting gays are the OP's own gender, ie using "someone" rather than "a man." In his poll, actually it equally could be interpreted if a woman sexually assaults only boys, is she gay?

The OP doesn't explain the purpose of the poll in any real terms. Is it to prove that gay men may sexually assault boys? Some men, gay-straight-or-bi, sexually assault girls, women, boys and men. So the point is?

The vast majority of sexual assaults by men are against females - young and old - so should we assert that heterosexuals are more likely to be rapists?
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Being a pedophile has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with power and availability. So the whole "a guy that rapes a boy is really just a gay pedophile" is BS. In our society it is most often the case that boys will be left alone with people far more than girls so boys are easier pickings than girls.
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To add, its much more likely that an adult male would be allowed to be alone with boys than girls. Locker rooms, for example.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Being a pedophile has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with power and availability. So the whole "a guy that rapes a boy is really just a gay pedophile" is BS. In our society it is most often the case that boys will be left alone with people far more than girls so boys are easier pickings than girls.
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Yes, they would be 'easier pickings.' Yet, statistically, girls are more likely to be assaulted over boys. Not that I disagree with the general theory that pedophiles don't care either way. Just that it seems some do have their preferences.
 
Is this 'someone' a man or a woman?
 
My understanding of pedophilia is that it is its own classification of sexual orientation, with the orientation being toward children instead of adults. Most pedophiles cannot have functional intimate relationships with adult peers, preferring to spend time with children. There can be homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual pedophiles, but their primary interest is always in children. A man that molests young boys could therefore be coined a gay pedophile, but because of politics I think people tend to shy away from this term, for obvious reasons.

Young girls are statistically more likely to be molested by adult men, which makes sense given that the majority of pedophiles tend to be males, and the majority of adults tend to be heterosexual. For this reason, it doesn't make sense that gay men are stigmatized as being pedophiles, when their heterosexual counterparts account for the majority of instances.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I don't know, I think by the very definition of sexually molesting the same gender, regardless of age, will make you at a minimum bisexual.

If it's a kid, he's also a pedophile.

I'm not saying there's a correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia, but let's call a spade a spade. Sexual attraction to the same gender is homosexuality, regardless of the age.
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No it isn't as evidenced by the fact that most men who molest young boys are heterosexual. Pedophilia has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation.
 
MaggieD said:
I'm definitely with Captain Courtesy on this, probably for a different reason. I think pedophilia is a sexual orientation in and of itself.
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The jury is out on this one, Maggie. There are some who believe so. I do not, since most pedophiles have attractions towards one or the other gender with adults. Pedophilia has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation.
 
APACHERAT said:
Which dictionary should we use ?

All I was pointing out, Redress should have used someone else as a reliable source than Dr. Herek. It's like having Senator Feinstein giving a class on the nomenclature of the M-16 rifle.

Herek studies are more than bias but have a radical political agenda. Herek is a leftist hate monger. His job is to indocernate young adults that same sex sodomy just isn't fun and safe but completely normal. Herek believes that heterosexuals are mentally sick and abnormal. He even goes as far as playing the race card. Herek still hasn't recovered that back in 2008 that just as many blacks in California voted for Prop 8 as there were who voted for Obama. It's probably because most blacks couldn't afford to attend UC Davis to be indocernated by Dr. Merek.
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You actually don't know what you are talking about. Herek's study is a META-ANALYSIS of other studies. Most of those studies are peer reviewed, reliable, and credible. I've read most of them. YOUR source attempted to erroneously assign sexual orientation is a dishonest way, fitting with the sources anti-gay agenda. There was absolutely nothing credible written there.
 
APACHERAT said:
Because Merek is just not a homosexual activist with a leftist political agenda but is one of those white beard scratching liberals who just not changes the meanings of words to further a political agenda but also creates new words with new definitions the further his own radical political agenda.


Beyond Homophobia » About Dr. Herek

Sexual Prejudice: Understanding Homophobia and Heterosexism (You'll notice that Herek uses the same dictionary when it furthers his agenda.)

I can't seem to find the article where Merek wants to change the definition of homophobia. Lets put it this way, Merek is just a radical gay leftist comparable to the hate monger Morris Dees.

Excerpt:

>" Homophobia is an etymologically incorrect term which most directly denotes "an unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality",[2] but it also includes a fear of increased political and social power of homosexuals in advancing their agenda. The term is used regularly by activists to describe several kinds of people, which may or may not match the actual definition of "fear of homosexuals and homosexuality". The recipients of the homophobia label include those who feel uncomfortable around homosexuals, those who reveal that they oppose "gays," and even those who may privately support homosexuality but who fail to publicly support homosexuals when called upon to do so.[3]

Conservative Christians and other people who strongly object to homosexuality often take offense at this term, which had led to the use of the term heterophobia to describe those who manifest an antipathy to those who uphold heterosexuality as normative or exclusively valid. While the term phobia is an irrational fear of something, nobody is afraid of homosexuals, and nobody fears contracting homosexuality. That is in contrast to heterophobia, whose existence has been documented..."< Homophobia - Conservapedia
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You REALLY shouldn't use Conservapedia as a source. It's about as accurate as broken clock. Herek did not want to change the definition of homophobia. What he wanted to do is teach people to stop using the term homophobia to describe those who are prejudiced towards gays, as it is inaccurate. He believes that the correct term would be sexual prejudice, as homophobia is defined as a fear towards gays... which is no accurate.

The only people who think Herek is a radical lefty are radical righties.
 
Rocketman said:
Male to male=gay, undeclared is no excuse and does not change the fact, Catholic priest that molest young boys are gay
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No, there is a difference between sexual orientation and pedophilia. They are not the same thing. Most men who molest boys are heterosexual.
 
I voted pedophile, but technically that isn't necessarily true. It should actually be "we cannot know given the available information". The person could be any of the answers or none of them, since not all child molesters are pedophiles and the gender of the child that is molested has nothing to do with a person's adult sexuality.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You actually don't know what you are talking about. Herek's study is a META-ANALYSIS of other studies. Most of those studies are peer reviewed, reliable, and credible. I've read most of them. YOUR source attempted to erroneously assign sexual orientation is a dishonest way, fitting with the sources anti-gay agenda. There was absolutely nothing credible written there.
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I'll be first to proudly admit that I'm clueless about why someone would be sexualy attractive to someone of the same sex.

If you read most of these studies, I have to assume you have been indoctrinated.

I seriously doubt that Merek would use the queen of hearts.
More likely the jack of diamonds.

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