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If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

If someone only molests young boys is he gay, a pedohile, or both

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Navy Pride said:
I have never started a thread like this my left wing friend.:confused:
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You've made this argument in COUNTLESS threads. I should know. I'm the one who corrects you each and every time.
 
Rocketman said:
not every gay man is a pedophile, but every male pedophile is gay that goes after young boys.
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This is incorrect. There is no correlation between the sex of the child that is molested and the sexual orientation of the molester. The vast majority of men who molest boys are heterosexuals. Plenty of research and statistics on this.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Going strictly off of the question posed by the OP, I think the answer would be "both."

An individual matching the description provided could be thought of as being a gay pedophile.
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No, that is not correct. As I said, the majority of men who molest boys are heterosexual. Sexual orientation has zero to do with molestation.
 
APACHERAT said:
Your source isn't credible, it's from Gregory M. Herek, a radical leftist gay activist who has had a long leftist political agenda and a very homosexual one at that.

I would classify Dr. Herek with acute hetrophobia along with Americanaphobia. He and his gay activist companions are like the gay version of the SPLC.


How Homosexualists Redefine Homosexual Child Molesting:

How Homosexualists Redefine* Homosexual Child Molesting
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Your source misrepresents data and presents inaccurate definitions. The research on this matter is both clear and well-documented. Further, your source is from a rightwing Christian values site that, on it's front page, clearly states it's agenda as being anti-gay. And finally, the article was written by the editor of the site with no research whatsoever. Your source is completely irrelevant.
 
The question is vacuous, since the variables are too many, and the answer is "no, neither". Firstly, pedophilia is a clinical diagnosis, and a child molester need not be a pedophile. Next, Pedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children, a 14 year-old is too old. The child molester may only have access to boys, limiting his choice of victim. His sexual orientation is irrelevant.
 
APACHERAT said:
Your source isn't credible, it's from Gregory M. Herek, a radical leftist gay activist who has had a long leftist political agenda and a very homosexual one at that.

I would classify Dr. Herek with acute hetrophobia along with Americanaphobia. He and his gay activist companions are like the gay version of the SPLC.


How Homosexualists Redefine Homosexual Child Molesting:

How Homosexualists Redefine* Homosexual Child Molesting
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You just used a bad editorial to try and show bias? That is incredibly LoLz. The article itself is even more hilarious. It counters all the studies linked within my source by saying "nuh uh, not true because I say so".
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think?
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If we say "yes", will you desist with this obsession of yours that has resulted in your indulging in what must be thousands of postings on the subject by now?
 
Gardener said:
If we say "yes", will you desist with this obsession of yours that has resulted in your indulging in what must be thousands of postings on the subject by now?
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Excellent question.
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think?
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Not enough information.

Undoubtably they're a pedophile, assuming you mean young in terms of prepubecent.

However, is it a man or a woman? What sex is the individual attracted to when it's not a young person? Those would be needed to be able to answer the question entirely.
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think?
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I think it depends on the actual age of the children.

There is a pretty big developmental gap between age 5 and age 17. Between Law & Order SVU and common sense I would think gender isn't much of an issue to someone molesting 5 year olds.

Also, I'm not sure if you can necessarily label a pedophile as homosexual, heterosexual, etc. I mean is a man homosexual because he likes to have sex with male zebras?
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
This is incorrect. There is no correlation between the sex of the child that is molested and the sexual orientation of the molester. The vast majority of men who molest boys are heterosexuals. Plenty of research and statistics on this.
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I don't know, I think by the very definition of sexually molesting the same gender, regardless of age, will make you at a minimum bisexual.

If it's a kid, he's also a pedophile.

I'm not saying there's a correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia, but let's call a spade a spade. Sexual attraction to the same gender is homosexuality, regardless of the age.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I don't know, I think by the very definition of sexually molesting the same gender, regardless of age, will make you at a minimum bisexual.

If it's a kid, he's also a pedophile.

I'm not saying there's a correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia, but let's call a spade a spade. Sexual attraction to the same gender is homosexuality, regardless of the age.
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I'm definitely with Captain Courtesy on this, probably for a different reason. I think pedophilia is a sexual orientation in and of itself.
 
MaggieD said:
I'm definitely with Captain Courtesy on this, probably for a different reason. I think pedophilia is a sexual orientation in and of itself.
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The person described in the scenario only likes boys. If he attacked both genders, I could see your point, but he doesn't.
 
Yeah...I know the whole "Rape is about power" thing, but I always feel that as is the case with MANY things regarding rape that it's over exaggerated to a ridiculous degree. Rape is such an emotional thing that at times nuance is rejected in favor of absolutism because it's easier to deal with emotionally. Yes, rape is about power...but there's a reason why, when we speak about rape commited by a male against an adult or older minor, there's more instances of it being against women than men if both sexes are equally available. Because a majority of men are straight, and as such if they're going to exert that "power" over someone it's going to be over someone they also will find sexually appealing to some degree.

A straight guy may engage in raping a male in prison because there is little actual choice of anything else. However, a straight guy in a normal situation is unlikely in my mind to rape a guy for "power" because there's an active repulision to the notion of "getting off". And even when it comes to the "power" of the rape, that power is something that gets them off. If you want to say that's seperate than sexual enjoyment than so be it, but it's still there from my view.
 
With just this much information I would say by definition both. But I merely posted to keep up with where NP takes it. Funny how much some people think about this huh?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Your source misrepresents data and presents inaccurate definitions. .
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Which dictionary should we use ?

All I was pointing out, Redress should have used someone else as a reliable source than Dr. Herek. It's like having Senator Feinstein giving a class on the nomenclature of the M-16 rifle.

Herek studies are more than bias but have a radical political agenda. Herek is a leftist hate monger. His job is to indocernate young adults that same sex sodomy just isn't fun and safe but completely normal. Herek believes that heterosexuals are mentally sick and abnormal. He even goes as far as playing the race card. Herek still hasn't recovered that back in 2008 that just as many blacks in California voted for Prop 8 as there were who voted for Obama. It's probably because most blacks couldn't afford to attend UC Davis to be indocernated by Dr. Merek.
 
Experts on the subject will tell you that pedophiles that molest young boys are not necessarily gay. In fact, the majority of them are not.
 
APACHERAT said:
Which dictionary should we use ?

All I was pointing out, Redress should have used someone else as a reliable source than Dr. Herek. It's like having Senator Feinstein giving a class on the nomenclature of the M-16 rifle.

Herek studies are more than bias but have a radical political agenda. Herek is a leftist hate monger. His job is to indocernate young adults that same sex sodomy just isn't fun and safe but completely normal. Herek believes that heterosexuals are mentally sick and abnormal. He even goes as far as playing the race card. Herek still hasn't recovered that back in 2008 that just as many blacks in California voted for Prop 8 as there were who voted for Obama. It's probably because most blacks couldn't afford to attend UC Davis to be indocernated by Dr. Merek.
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Why would you use a dictionary for a psychological term and not use the psychological definition? Using a standard dictionary would be less precise.

You realize you neither refuted nor even actually addressed the studies in my source? You realize that trying to counter a source for bias with a new biased source is stupid and doomed to failure?
 
I said that because if a guy has some sort of sex with another guy, by definition it is homosexual sex. Just like if your girlfriend is a party bi...oooops got off track there for a second.
disneydude said:
Experts on the subject will tell you that pedophiles that molest young boys are not necessarily gay. In fact, the majority of them are not.
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As opposed to molesting everyone else?
 
mak2 said:
I said that because if a guy has some sort of sex with another guy, by definition it is homosexual sex. Just like if your girlfriend is a party bi...oooops got off track there for a second.
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yes...having sex with another guy is a homosexual act, but it doesn't mean that the persons are homosexual. There are many instances in which a heterosexual may engage in homsexual acts, prison and childhood experimentation are a couple examples of that.

Most experts in the field of pedophillia will tell you that most pedophiles who prey on young boys are actually heterosexual.
 
Navy Pride said:
Threads on similar topics maybe but never asking this question.
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NP, he did not say threads on this topic, he said you made the same claim in other threads, where it has failed every time, you have been refuted every time, and you still come back and do it again. Just because this is the only thread dedicated to your stupid lie does not mean you have not made the lie elsewhere.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You've made this argument in COUNTLESS threads. I should know. I'm the one who corrects you each and every time.
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You are correct CC....NP has started numerous posts on this topic. New day...another anti-gay NP post.
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think?
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I'm not going to play the 'I'm smarter than you so I'll make a stupid point in response' card like others have done.

Yes - an individual who is attracted to only the opposite sex is gay.
A person who uses children for sexual wants is a pedophile.

I know by saying this that I am not stating that all gays are pedophiles, or all pedophiles are gay, or whatever.

It's very simple.

Whoever said (in this thread) that a pedophile acts on opportunity (thus suggesting that it wouldn't matter what sex the child is) is full of ****.
 
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