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If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

If someone only molests young boys is he gay, a pedohile, or both

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Navy Pride said:
How do you explain that all the priests molested only boys no girls.:confused:
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DUDE!!! This is YOUR thread. Do you even bother to READ the responses for comprehension??????

1. Current mental health liturature states pedophiles have no sexual orientation unless it is one for children. (That means they are neither hetero, nor homosexual).
2. The same mental health liturature indicates that pedophilia is developed prior to puberty. (That means before they are even old enough to have sex).
3. Priests have access to girls and boys and there ARE pedophile priests who have molested little girls.
4. There ARE gay priests, but they are caught with ADULT males (16 and older).
5. Pedophile Priests only abuse pre-teen boys and/or girls, NEVER adult men or women.
6. The DSM IV definition of "pedophile" is one who is attracted to and attempts to engage children 13 and under in sexual activity.

Is that clear enough?
 
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Navy Pride said:
wow that is pretty heavy but you are wrong. I am just trying to find out how everyone feels on this issue. Some of my liberal and gay friends get all bent out of shape when I bring up subjects like this but I would like to learn.
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No he's right.

Many Gays who hate their Gayness think that by attacking other Gays they can convince others that they themselves are not Gay. They have a strange idea that the more they hate Gays, the less Gay they appear.

But the opposite is true. The more frequently someone attacks Gays the more eyebrows are raised that this person might themselves be a Gay.
 
Captain Adverse said:
DUDE!!! This is YOUR thread. Do you even bother to READ the responses for comprehension??????

1. Current mental health liturature states pedophiles have no sexual orientation unless it is one for children. (That means they are neither hetero, nor homosexual).
2. The same mental health liturature indicates that pedophilia is developed prior to puberty. (That means before they are even old enough to have sex).
3. Priests have access to girls and boys and there ARE pedophile priests who have molested little girls.
4. There ARE gay priests, but they are caught with ADULT males (16 and older).
5. Pedophile Priests only abuse pre-teen boys and/or girls, NEVER adult men or women.

Is that clear enough?
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Somehow, I doubt it. :lol:
 
Navy Pride said:
wow that is pretty heavy but you are wrong. I am just trying to find out how everyone feels on this issue. Some of my liberal and gay friends get all bent out of shape when I bring up subjects like this but I would like to learn.
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The best way to hide one's Gayness is to make it appear that sexuality and Gayness don't really matter to them.

That way no one's suspicions are "aroused".

;)
 
Navy Pride said:
Sorry this is a completely different topic my left wing friend, even someone as biased as you can see that.
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Hardly so. The point of a lot of your posts is to insinuate the lack of a distinction between pedophilia and homosexuality, with the intention of wanting the maintenance of the stigma toward homosexuality. Just because one involved the Boy Scouts in particular doesn't mean that your prodding questions are somehow novel to this thread, as you have done it several times already.
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think?
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Why are you so obsessed about homosexuals?

You have started thread after thread after thread about them?

You must think about them a LOT to start SO many threads about them.
 
Is a man who is in an adult gay relationship who molests prepubescent girls gay or straight?
 
X Factor said:
Or how liberals object to blanket statements being made about them while having no trouble making blanket statements about others? :2razz:
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Did you not notice my use of quotation marks or did you not understand what they meant in this context?
 
Navy Pride said:
How do we know these gay pedophile priests are not attracted to adults?
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And it has been proven repeatedly to you when you have made this statement in the past that these are not gay pedophiles. You have no excuse for continuing to spread this lie.
 
Redress said:
And it has been proven repeatedly to you when you have made this statement in the past that these are not gay pedophiles. You have no excuse for continuing to spread this lie.
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Some people don't need an excuse to continue spreading lies about gay people.

"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert green Ingersoll.
 
shrubnose said:
Some people don't need an excuse to continue spreading lies about gay people.

"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert green Ingersoll.
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"Tolerance" is what one asks from someone who, for whatever reason, you can't get away with knifing at the moment.......................I know, I'm there......................
 
DA60 said:
Why are you so obsessed about homosexuals?

You have started thread after thread after thread about them?

You must think about them a LOT to start SO many threads about them.
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They must be in his mind every moment of every day of his life.

He must dream about them non-stop, every night.

They are the total focus of his life.
 
He is certainly a pedophile. Can't say for certain if he is gay or not. Maybe, maybe not. Why do you ask, Navy? Are you trying to classify your own behavior?
 
Navy Pride said:
wow that is pretty heavy but you are wrong. I am just trying to find out how everyone feels on this issue. Some of my liberal and gay friends get all bent out of shape when I bring up subjects like this but I would like to learn.
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If you haven't learned anything by now with your constant, single-minded focus on gay people, there's a damn good chance that you'll never learn.
 
Going strictly off of the question posed by the OP, I think the answer would be "both."

An individual matching the description provided could be thought of as being a gay pedophile.
 
If you molest someone of the same sex, that makes you gay (or bi). If you molest a child, that makes you a pedophile. They are completely separate traits, though it is possible to be both. Statistically being gay doesn't make a person any more or less likely to be a pedophile. Incidentally, being a priest does.
 
HumanBeing said:
Statistically being gay doesn't make a person any more or less likely to be a pedophile.
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Why have half the people who've responded to this thread so far insisted on injecting this completely useless bit of information into the conversation?

You might very well be correct in pointing this particular fact out, but the simple fact of the matter is that the OP did not even remotely suggest that there was a statistical connection between homosexuality and pedophilia in the first place. As such, the fact in question really holds no bearing whatsoever on the issue at hand.

Why not simply state your opinion on the question the OP actually did ask and be done with the thing? I'm sure we could all do without the redundant "P.C." lip service currently being paid to the "cause" from every poster with vague LBGT sympathies unnecessarily cluttering things up.

Incidentally, being a priest does.
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Har, har. :roll:
 
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Gathomas88 said:
Why have half the people who've responded to this thread so far insisted on injecting this completely useless bit of information into the conversation?

You might very well be correct in pointing this particular fact out, but the simple fact of the matter is that the OP did not even remotely suggest that there was a statistical connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. As such, it really holds no bearing whatsoever on the issue at hand.
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The fact he had to ask the question he did makes it necessary to point out the fact. It's like asking "if a man only molests girls, is he heterosexual". It's a dumb question because it implies that a person's sexual orientation with regards to gender has a link to their propensity to be/become a pedophile. That's why pointing out that the two issues have nothing to do with each other is relevant to the question.

Why not simply state your opinion on the matter and be done with the thing? I'm sure we could all do without the preemptive "P.C." lip service paid from every poster with LBGT sympathies unnecessarily cluttering things up.
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To answer the question, it needed to be said that the subject of pedophilia is no more linked to homosexuality than heterosexuality. If that wasn't necassary, then the OP would have been worded differently to begin with.

Har, har. :roll:
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Yeah, systematic sexual abuse of children is oh so funny..... Oh no wait, it isn't.

Edit: And what's this about "PC lip service"? When have I ever been PC on this site? I advocate shooting thieves in the head, I believe all taxation is theft, and I regularly write long posts on why I think democracy is a form of violent fascism. There is nothing "PC" about me or the views I represent, I was merely stating simple facts that were relevant to the OP's misguided question.
 
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Gathomas88 said:
Why have half the people who've responded to this thread so far insisted on injecting this completely useless bit of information into the conversation?

You might very well be correct in pointing this particular fact out, but the simple fact of the matter is that the OP did not even remotely suggest that there was a statistical connection between homosexuality and pedophilia in the first place. As such, the fact in question really holds no bearing whatsoever on the issue at hand.
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The reason many have made the comment is because we are familiar with Navy Pride, who has gone out of his way on numerous occasions, including in this thread, to connect homosexuality and pedophilia, a connection that does not exist in reality.

Why not simply state your opinion on the question the OP actually did ask and be done with the thing? I'm sure we could all do without the redundant "P.C." lip service currently being paid to the "cause" from every poster with vague LBGT sympathies unnecessarily cluttering things up.
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It is not a question of opinion. Research has been done, the answer is known. It is a question of fact. Best summary: Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

For the present discussion, the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.


Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180).
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Also note that this has been linked for Navy Pride, the poster in the OP, who continually refuses to acknowledge that there is research, and it shows that the answer is not the one he wants. Before long, he should begin complaining about how liberals are overrunning the site and messing up the poll results(despite many conservatives being educated enough on the topic to answer correctly, if not the way NP wants).
 
Redress said:
It is not a question of opinion. Research has been done, the answer is known. It is a question of fact. Best summary: Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
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Your source isn't credible, it's from Gregory M. Herek, a radical leftist gay activist who has had a long leftist political agenda and a very homosexual one at that.

I would classify Dr. Herek with acute hetrophobia along with Americanaphobia. He and his gay activist companions are like the gay version of the SPLC.


How Homosexualists Redefine Homosexual Child Molesting:

How Homosexualists Redefine  Homosexual Child Molesting
 
Navy Pride said:
Its your opinion and being gay you might be a little bias?
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No, she's right NP. You have been told the facts of this situation, countless times, often by ME. You refuse to listen. You have no evidence of your position; all evidence and facts prove your position wrong. When you take positions like you do in the OP, you just prove that you don't care one iota about facts. You just care about your bias.

You disappoint me.
 
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