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Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

Is the phrase "Creepy Ass Cracker" Racist?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 49 62.8%

  • No!

    Votes: 14 17.9%

  • I blame Whitey!

    Votes: 8 10.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • Total voters
    78
ernst barkmann said:
well i believe people are objecting to the idea being pushed here, that if you are white, and you use racism, you hurt /damage minorities.

however if you a minority and you use racism, you hurt and damage no one.

that rubs people the wrong way, when they can be accused of wrong doing, but people doing the same against them, its immaterial.
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How can "racism" from members of a group that controls none of the power structures in a society (government, media, business, et al.) damage members of the group that controls all of those power structures?
 
ernst barkmann said:
well i believe people are objecting to the idea being pushed here, that if you are white, and you use racism, you hurt /damage minorities.

however if you a minority and you use racism, you hurt and damage no one.
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Of course, those bricks bounced right off Denny's face without causing any damage at all. :D
 
ThePlayDrive said:
How can "racism" from members of a group that controls none of the power structures in a society (government, media, business, et al.) damage members of the group that controls all of those power structures?
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well i myself dont have any power structure at all, and had racism used against me, do you really want to pose that becuase their has been a white president of members of government, during those times, no racism by minorities have hurt white people.

this government for 50 years have hurt people with it laws of civil rights, by forcing people to do things against they will, by controlling private property, harassing people, who dont share the governments view on race.

i am in my 50's now, and i continue to hear over and over racism......its no wonder it never going to end..... when people love to sit around and fan the flames of it.
 
ernst barkmann said:
this government for 50 years have hurt people with it laws of civil rights, by forcing people to do things against they will, by controlling private property, harassing people, who dont share the governments view on race.
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Which civil rights laws have "hurt people"?
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Truth. A slur used by the oppressed to describe the oppressor is not racist.
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So, in the case of my son who was the victim of institutionalized racism by the local power structure of the Oakland school district, were he to have responded by using a certain epithet, you would be down with that?

Of course, you are just blowing smoke, but I'm putting it in proper perspective for those who think instead of just going with the prevailing dogma of the day.
 
Paschendale said:
Violence certainly qualifies. That is an exercise of power. But mean remarks against the powerful (racial, religious, and sexuality majority groups and males) by the powerless (basically everyone else) amount to nothing. Grow a little thick skin. Or maybe stop oppressing people and they won't try to hurt your precious feelings.
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Most of us don't hold any power, so I don't know what the heck you're going on about. I'm a white American and I certainly don't have any power over anyone or anything. If someone like me is a bigot, then that isn't "institutionalized" either.
 
X Factor said:
I should have been taught in school that I'm an oppressor, not because of anything I do but because I'm white? I know you won't/can't answer that but I thought I'd ask anyway, lol.
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The sooner you realize you are the white devil, the easier it will be for you to be just as hypocritical as TPD.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
I think we're done talking.
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really, denying truth

the 1st amendment of the constitution states every citizen has right to association......meaning i dont have to associate with you if i chose not to.....i dont have to sell to you.

the 13th amendment

no citizen can be put into servitude unless a crime has been committed,...discrimination is not a crime....these are constitutional law
 
ernst barkmann said:
really, denying truth

the 1st amendment of the constitution states every citizen has right to association......meaning i dont have to associate with you if i chose not to.....i dont have to sell to you.

the 13th amendment

no citizen can be put into servitude unless a crime has been committed,...discrimination is not a crime....these are constitutional law
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Okay.
 
Gardener said:
The sooner you realize you are the white devil, the easier it will be for you to be just as hypocritical as TPD.
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Glad to see you back, G. That so made me lol.
 
ernst barkmann said:
so your going to tell me the white institution, which has all the power, does not use that power to browbeat whites, and violate their rights.
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Discrimination laws only "browbeat" racists.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
That's one of the big issues in this discussion: ignoring the fact that blacks do make up a majority in many areas, and do control larger political systems like schools, local govt, ect
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Have any areas where they're the majority not gone to **** like Detroit? My wife tried teaching at a mostly black school and only took two lectures to quit, because she wasn't going to tolerate the disrespectful hoodlum behavior. Things seem more destructive than productive in such areas.
 
X Factor said:
I seriously wouldn't make it in liberal land.
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But ACTUAL liberalism involves creating a level playing field where everybody is treated equally and consideration is given to the social justice for all concerned without regard for color of skin, gender or ethnicity.

What TPD offers up may be hackneyed authoritarian leftism without any thought involved, but isn't liberal by a long shot.
 
Gardener said:
But ACTUAL liberalism involves creating a level playing field where everybody is treated equally and consideration is given to the social justice for all concerned without regard for color of skin, gender or ethnicity.

What TPD offers up may be hackneyed authoritarian leftism without any thought involved, but isn't liberal by a long shot.
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what liberalism does is to try to create a level field in every aspect of life...instead of JUST equity under the law, which is what the constitution states.

that is why liberals love democracy, ...which is the most vile form of government--James Madison

there is no social justice in the Constitution, feelings emotions dont have any part of the law, if they were to, then there would be no equality in the law at all.

only dispensed laws based on someones view point of whats fair.
 
ernst barkmann said:
what liberalism does is to try to create a level field in every aspect of life...instead of JUST equity under the law, which is what the constitution states.

that is why liberals love democracy, ...which is the most vile form of government--James Madison

there is no social justice in the Constitution, feelings emotions dont have any part of the law, if they were to, then there would be no equality in the law at all.

only dispensed laws based on someones view point of whats fair.
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Meh.

I think liberalism is a wonderful thing. It's just too bad that those who know least about it are too often those most prone to calling themselves liberal.
 
gardener said:
meh.

I think liberalism is a wonderful thing. It's just too bad that those who know least about it are too often those most prone to calling themselves liberal.
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i will give you an example of social justice:

A man who is hungry because he has not eaten in 3 days goes into a store, and takes a loaf of bread, and walks out of the store, he gets caught, under social justice the man should not face justice because his hunger justified his need for food and to steal.
 
Definitely racist.

But there is one thing that throws a wrench into this obvious conclusion.

In Florida, the white's were called "crackers," by the native Americans who lived there. They were called this because, before there were white/non-native American settlers in Florida, the non-Native Americans would drive their cattle to graze in the Florida area. They were called "crackers," because their bull whips made loud "cracks," that reportedly could be heard miles away.

So, technically, any non-native American (ie: Seminole, etc.,) can be a cracker in Florida. I suppose that could mean black folks too if they participated in those cattle drives.

In Florida, it is common to hear, "Yeah, he's a good ol' cracker boy." It is a term of endearment meaning the person is native Floridian settler and not a "tourista," or snowbird or transplant.

Food for thought.
 
Captain America said:
Definitely racist.

But there is one thing that throws a wrench into this obvious conclusion.

In Florida, the white's were called "crackers," by the native Americans who lived there. They were called this because, before there were white/non-native American settlers in Florida, the non-Native Americans would drive their cattle to graze in the Florida area. They were called "crackers," because their bull whips made loud "cracks," that reportedly could be heard miles away.

So, technically, any non-native American (ie: Seminole, etc.,) can be a cracker in Florida. I suppose that could mean black folks too if they participated in those cattle drives.

In Florida, it is common to hear, "Yeah, he's a good ol' cracker boy." It is a term of endearment meaning the person is native Floridian settler and not a "tourista," or snowbird or transplant.

Food for thought.
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Very interesting! I never knew why white people were called crackers.
 
Gardener said:
But ACTUAL liberalism involves creating a level playing field where everybody is treated equally and consideration is given to the social justice for all concerned without regard for color of skin, gender or ethnicity.

What TPD offers up may be hackneyed authoritarian leftism without any thought involved, but isn't liberal by a long shot.
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Point well taken. That wasn't a very fair comment on my part.
 
ChrisL said:
Very interesting! I never knew why white people were called crackers.
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I know that this holds true in Florida. Not sure why they are called crackers elsewhere.

But it is used today as a racial slur against whites coast to coast.
 
Captain America said:
Definitely racist.

But there is one thing that throws a wrench into this obvious conclusion.

In Florida, the white's were called "crackers," by the native Americans who lived there. They were called this because, before there were white/non-native American settlers in Florida, the non-Native Americans would drive their cattle to graze in the Florida area. They were called "crackers," because their bull whips made loud "cracks," that reportedly could be heard miles away.

So, technically, any non-native American (ie: Seminole, etc.,) can be a cracker in Florida. I suppose that could mean black folks too if they participated in those cattle drives.

In Florida, it is common to hear, "Yeah, he's a good ol' cracker boy." It is a term of endearment meaning the person is native Floridian settler and not a "tourista," or snowbird or transplant.

Food for thought.
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and here i thought it was becuase i was a Nabisco cracker stock holder.
 
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