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Who? :lol:of course not but I do believe in the Higgs boson
Who? :lol:of course not but I do believe in the Higgs boson
Well now Clax that is indeed an interesting concept Alan Turing committed suicide 7 June 1954 rather than continue chemical castration as an alternative to prison
and now we have rabid activist homosexuals screaming in our faces that we are monsters for not accepting homosexual Scout Masters? yeah I'm gonna go with bending over backwards.
And I am not going to. Your failure to communicate us your problem.
Okay i will play this game with you
Post #553 i quoted you.
" Revolutionary isn't it? sorry i'm tired. I'm saying we are all the same as far as we are all bisexual. On top of that lowest common denominator, the choice to live as a bisexual, homo or hetero are the minor differences among us."
Let's see how little sense this makes
Revolutionary isn't it? sorry i'm tired. I'm saying we are all the same as far as we are all bisexual. On top of that (constant of bisexuality) the choice to live as a bisexual, homo or hetero are the minor differences among us.
Living as this or that didn't alter your orientation. I know first hand.
Why didn't it alter orientation? What is it about orientation that can't be altered? I'm question your underlying assumptions about orientation. I know there is an APA definition of orientation. I also know there are interpretations of orientation. I believe our interpretations are frequently self-serving. We turn ideas around in our mind until we find a version we are comfortable with. I know I do. That's why I try, seriously now, to use phrases like "I believe such in such."
Because your beliefs are absurd.
Opinion.
I can absolutely prove you are dead wrong. You said everybody, I am somebody, I am not bisexual, being that the trem everybody includes me, that statement is dead wrong.
I don't have to ask everybody to know you are wrong when you say everybody is bisexual. I just need one person to prove that because everybody except one is not everybody.
The problem is that generalization is always wrong therefore they are useless.
I said I believe everybody is bisexual. I said I believe we all are bisexual. After saying it once, I may have omitted it from any following statements to you. And that may be the reason why you think I am trying to state my beliefs as fact. Sorry. I will try harder to always include phrases like "in my opinion such-in-such, i believe such-in-such.
I'm using what's known as Proper English. In that case the default pronoun is Male, meaning he, his, etc. Since God would have no sex, "he" could be whatever "he" damn well chose to be eh?
Who? :lol:
In this country? Good luck.I used proper English too. Get your mind out of the phalocentric.
It's amusing how people believe it proves the existence of god somehow. Even more amusing, the guy who theorized its existence was an atheist.
That is what the word bisexual means.Agreed. Why? I think he is bisexual because he can choose to live hetero and homo lifestyles, and you think he is bisexual because? My guess is that you think he is bisexual bec bisexual is a separate orientation describing people who are (somehow) attracted to both men and women.
There you go, your true position has been evident all along.So I will be in your face until I crush you
That is what the word bisexual means.
bi·sex·u·al**
Adjective-Sexually attracted to both men and women.
Noun-A person who is sexually attracted to both men and women.
Its the definition of the word. A bisexual person is a person attracted to both genders. That is what it means
A person that can be attracted to both genders is bisexual, I never argued that. Simply stated that everybody can't do that, I couldn't
It didn't change the orientation because the orientation was constantly bisexual. I don't believe it is possible to alter the orientation. It isn't necessary for a person with the orientation of bisexual to alter it to switch between men and women. Bisexual means that the person is sexually oriented to both. That never changed. Since our species sex is binary a bisexual is all of the above.Why didn't it alter orientation? What is it about orientation that can't be altered? I'm question your underlying assumptions about orientation. I know there is an APA definition of orientation. I also know there are interpretations of orientation. I believe our interpretations are frequently self-serving. We turn ideas around in our mind until we find a version we are comfortable with. I know I do. That's why I try, seriously now, to use phrases like "I believe such in such."
Its a fact I will prove it below.Opinion.
I said I believe everybody is bisexual. I said I believe we all are bisexual. After saying it once, I may have omitted it from any following statements to you. And that may be the reason why you think I am trying to state my beliefs as fact. Sorry. I will try harder to always include phrases like "in my opinion such-in-such, i believe such-in-such.
It didn't change the orientation because the orientation was constantly bisexual. I don't believe it is possible to alter the orientation. It isn't necessary for a person with the orientation of bisexual to alter it to switch between men and women. Bisexual means that the person is sexually oriented to both. That never changed. Since our species sex is binary a bisexual is all of the above.
Its a fact I will prove it below.
Your belief is absurd because it is proven wrong. You believe everyday is bisexual, i am not. If i believed i was a purple flying elephant would I be right?
You can put any prefix in front of an absurd statement out doesn't make it less absurd.
But you also have another way around this, you believe that someone doesn't know their sexuality as well as you do. This is far more absurd than believing in purple flying elephants. You believe you are omnipotent this is more than absurd it's delusional. To believe your labels for people are more correct than the orientation of others, that borders on narcissistic psychosis.
There you go, your true position has been evident all along.
So tell me if there ever was a 'push back' from the 98% of the population what would it look like?
and what's this adoption thingie of which you speak? I thought raising children was a 'breeder thing'
and honestly you've lost me what 'bizarre superstition' are you referring too?
It's just my belief. Does it really make you think I'm suffering narcissistic psychosis? does that mean you are omnipotent and know my mental state better than I do? of course not. that is just your belief. I don't get bent out of shape over it.
You believe things that are proven untrue. It's hard to not think there is something wrong. If you told me you believed that you were a horse it would be the same.
I am not bent out of shape i am stating the facts. You seem to perceivethat I am angry when I state reality. I am sorry if reality offends you.
It's not proven untrue. The APA states that the cause of orientation is unknown. Therefore, it could be a result of choice? no?
Okay, but that doesn't mean we are all bisexual.
I know it isn't a choice through experience.
Your belief that all people are bisexual is untrue because I am not.
As far as you know. I'm suggesting that we don't really know anything. Not even about ourselves. Why? Because we have preferences. Because we are acted on by messages and people in our environment. Bec we notice what others like and dislike and we let that influence us. Therefore, it is possible that we construct and maintain and identity for ourselves, and a logical, fact-based rational for that construct, that suits all those influences to our own satisfaction.
Speak for yourself. I Know plenty about myself.As far as you know. I'm suggesting that we don't really know anything. Not even about ourselves. Why?
I can't really make much of this statement. Having preferences doesn't mean that orientation is chosen. So if I am acted on by messages and people" what ever the hell that means, that is my choice?Because we have preferences. Because we are acted on by messages and people in our environment.
No, we don't. Again speak for yourself.Bec we notice what others like and dislike and we let that influence us.
Simply vote and discuss whether you believe that homosexuals have a choice in the matter, or were simply born that way, with no choice whatsoever.
Speak for yourself. I Know plenty about myself.
I can't really make much of this statement. Having preferences doesn't mean that orientation is chosen. So if I am acted on by messages and people" what ever the hell that means, that is my choice?
No I am sorry but this statement is absurd. Being acted upon is not a choice. Having preferences, not so sure that is a choice either.
No, we don't. Again speak for yourself.
So again how is being influenced a choice?
Therefore, it is possible that we construct and maintain and identity for ourselves, and a logical, fact-based rational for that construct, that suits all those influences to our own satisfaction.
You are referring to a label. Of course we choose those, I am not speaking of the labels of sexuality but the thing that the label represents.
How do we choose what influences us, the way we achieve satisfaction aside? Influence suggests that there is an outside force involved. So if there is something external to us guiding our decisions than is that really a choice?
I finally get what you are saying but the reaction to stimuli in the world at large is the reaction. I don't think the reaction is caused by what we wish it to be. I personally believe the reaction is involuntary based on human behavior in general. Reactions to stimuli are typically the sourceof much of our fear, struggles health problems instabilities to communicate and so on basically the things we make efforts to change. But you never really change it, you simply learn to compensate. I call these reactions instincts. I very much believe homosexuality is an instinct, you can't change it you certainly can compensate but why?
Yes and no.Is Homosexuality A Choice?
No I'm not.
People are different do to many factors. John, for example, is simply not attracted to females. There's no choice. He just isn't attracted to them. Never was and never will be. Sue, for example, could never really be attracted to females either. She just isn't built that way. Again no choice.
My problem s with those of you who insist it s choice, but demonstrate no mechanism for making this supposed choice. Instead, you show people who never once considered any alternative other than the one they always were attracted to. It's like you don't understand the nature of choosing. If I cannot consider any alternative, there is no choice at all.
Except it isn't a choice in my case, and many other cases.