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What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

What say you?

  • Yes. All humans should be protected under the law.

    Votes: 23 26.4%

  • No. Marriage is between one man and one woman, period.

    Votes: 18 20.7%

  • No. Only homosexuals and heterosexuals should be allowed to marry.

    Votes: 5 5.7%

  • I don’t care what they do as long as they stay out of my business.

    Votes: 31 35.6%

  • My cat’s name is Mittens.

    Votes: 10 11.5%
  • Total voters
    87
  • Poll closed .
Dooble said:
Tell me what you know, Lakryte. You're a Californian so tell me how the universe rolls. You people love to do that kind of stuff. ;)
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What do I know? You call everyone who disagrees with you a liberal or a communist. I know that is stupid.
 
Lakryte said:
What do I know? You call everyone who disagrees with you a liberal or a communist. I know that is stupid.
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No, I call anyone who parrots liberal or communist opinions a liberal or a communist. So you don't even know that.
 
I am rather partial to the idea that there should be no legally recognized marriage. I know this presents specific issues (i.e. health care coverage for one's family, etc.), but I'm speaking in terms of a quasi-utopian polisciguy world, haha.
 
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Dooble said:
Figures. You conveniently ignored the follow up edit post.
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It is all satire. The Onion is not a legitimate news source, and in most cases, they are in fact sarcastically countering the argument being made by using them as a source. The same is true here. I guarantee you The Onion writers do not oppose same sex marriage nor homosexuality and that article was meant to purposely be a draw for those like you who think this thing actually happened. (The key here is the fact that "LAGALABATATA" does not actually exist so they couldn't possibly have organized any parade.)
 
I feel that if its not it would seem discriminatory
 
roguenuke said:
It is all satire.
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I'm gonna say bull**** here. Read below:

Non-Satirical Advice from 'The Onion' on How Not to Get Hacked Like 'The Onion' - Rebecca Greenfield - The Atlantic Wire

roguenuke said:
The Onion is not a legitimate news source, and in most cases, they are in fact sarcastically countering the argument being made by using them as a source. The same is true here.
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I told you before that they have a non-satirical arm. I even linked a source from Wikipedia confirming that. True, they're not a very good choice for citing references, but they do step away from satire from time to time. I think they were bemoaning the fact that homosexuals truly are freaks at heart, and when they get in large groups, it looks like Satan's Playground.

roguenuke said:
I guarantee you The Onion writers do not oppose same sex marriage nor homosexuality
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Point out where I said that they do.

roguenuke said:
and that article was meant to purposely be a draw for those like you who think this thing actually happened.
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I thought it was for entertainment purposes only. Are they that malicious? Is it even legal to deliberately mislead the public?

roguenuke said:
(The key here is the fact that "LAGALABATATA" does not actually exist so they couldn't possibly have organized any parade.)
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Perhaps not in any official capacity, but I'm sure there's some informal group running around with that name. Besides, this sort of thing goes on outside of "LAGALABATATA", anyways. I person I met from the SFPD described in some detail what kind of revolting s*** goes on during those idiotic parades.
 
Dooble said:
Of course it does. Alan Keyes is an expert on our Constitution, which is fundamentally opposed to Communism. Gay marriage is as un-American as Red Square. Read below:

Keyes: Gay Marriage Will Lead to Communism and 'The Murder of the Masses' | Right Wing Watch

Yes, the source I'm using is un-American too, but they have no idea what Keyes is talking about anyways. They think this incriminates him.
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Then interracial marriage is communism, and so is giving women the right to vote. Calling gay marriage communism is idiotic at the face.
 
Lakryte said:
Then interracial marriage is communism, and so is giving women the right to vote. Calling gay marriage communism is idiotic at the face.
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No, everything's cool with those two. The problem is gay marriage. It's communistic, and needs to be stopped.
 
Dooble said:
No, everything's cool with those two. The problem is gay marriage. It's communistic, and needs to be stopped.
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No. Gay marriage is not communistic. Using government to enshrine your own religious beliefs, on the other hand, is an evil far worse than communism. Luckily you are on the losing side.
 
Lakryte said:
No. Gay marriage is not communistic. Using government to enshrine your own religious beliefs, on the other hand, is an evil far worse than communism. Luckily you are on the losing side.
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Yes. Gay marriage IS communistic. It's blessed by the Left (Communistic in nature) and does nothing to replenish our numbers.

And this country was founded on "religious beliefs", meaning Christianity, and that's what made us great. You'll notice we've been in a steady decline since the Left has been seizing power.
 
Dooble said:
I'm gonna say bull**** here. Read below:

Non-Satirical Advice from 'The Onion' on How Not to Get Hacked Like 'The Onion' - Rebecca Greenfield - The Atlantic Wire

I told you before that they have a non-satirical arm. I even linked a source from Wikipedia confirming that. True, they're not a very good choice for citing references, but they do step away from satire from time to time. I think they were bemoaning the fact that homosexuals truly are freaks at heart, and when they get in large groups, it looks like Satan's Playground.

Point out where I said that they do.

I thought it was for entertainment purposes only. Are they that malicious? Is it even legal to deliberately mislead the public?

Perhaps not in any official capacity, but I'm sure there's some informal group running around with that name. Besides, this sort of thing goes on outside of "LAGALABATATA", anyways. I person I met from the SFPD described in some detail what kind of revolting s*** goes on during those idiotic parades.
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And you would be wrong. That was satire. What you posted was satire. The proof that it is satire is the fact that the event being reported on never happened and the group that supposedly sponsored the nonexistent event doesn't exist. It never happened. It is all satire. You are simply foolish enough to keep believing the story despite the fact that it is coming from The Onion, which is all satire.
 
Dooble said:
Yes. Gay marriage IS communistic. It's blessed by the Left (Communistic in nature) and does nothing to replenish our numbers.

And this country was founded on "religious beliefs", meaning Christianity, and that's what made us great. You'll notice we've been in a steady decline since the Left has been seizing power.
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No it isn't "communistic".

This is the definition of communism: 1
a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2
capitalized
a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d : communist systems collectively

From Merriam-Webster online

Communism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

That in no way connects to same sex marriage at all. Just because one side supports it, does not make something "communistic". And same sex couples procreate using alternative methods.

Oh, and the US was founded on a principle of secularism, where religion was supposed to stay out of the government. Christianity in no makes this country great. Allowing people to believe as they want and to live free from religious persecution and laws makes us great. The closer we get to secularism, the greater this country is.
 
Dooble said:
Should Plural Marriage be legalized too?
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I think that a new policy regarding polygamy should be created. The law that applies to a married couple shouldn't apply to a man married to three women or a woman married to three men. There should be a legal union between more than two people which allows such rights as hospital visitation and things of that nature. For the time being, I would be very slightly opposed to institutionalized polygamy, but if society trends in that direction, it's probably inevitable.
 
My issue is with the legality of marriage, period. It's not illegal for married couples to go swinging, or for consensual sex in any configuration for that matter. Nor is it illegal for any configuration of people to live together. So, I say that it's a matter of whether they are married in the eyes of the law, they can legally have all the aspects of a polygamist marriage right now. So, it comes down to whether or not the government should be able to decide what marriage is. I think they should not give any special significance to any sort of configuration or marriage, it serves no purpose. For those of you who fight for traditional marriage as a positive aspect of society, I say society is whatever we make it. The only actions that should be made illegal are those that harm others. No polygamist marriage, or marriage in any form, has ever harmed a single person outside of the marriage. This is independent of religious polygamy and arranged marriages, which are harmful but are an aspect of religious extremism, not the marriage configuration itself.
 
roguenuke said:
And you would be wrong.
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Actually, I'm right. Just like I'm right that you're a leftist in "slightly conservative" clothing.

You are wrong, and you can't let that go. Allow me to encourage you here: Let it go. ;)
 
Dooble said:
Actually, I'm right. Just like I'm right that you're a leftist in "slightly conservative" clothing.

You are wrong, and you can't let that go. Allow me to encourage you here: Let it go. ;)
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You are wrong. That article was satirical. You must live in the state of denial. It was proven by the fact that there absolutely was no pride parade sponsored for that article to write about and there is no such group as "Los Angeles Gay And Lesbian And Bisexual And Transvestite And Transgender Alliance" (LAGALABATATA). A simple search tells us this. The article was from 2001.

Gay-Pride Parade Sets Mainstream Acceptance Of Gays Back 50 Years | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Show me where exactly it says that this particular article is not meant to be satirical. The "Doctor Henry Thorne", who is supposedly a New York University History professor, mentioned in the article doesn't exist. The group doesn't exist and the event never took place. Instead of simply trying to tell me you're right, show me one piece of proof that the event in the article took place. Something besides the article itself or some Wiki page claiming that not all articles in the Onion are satire (which does not in any way prove that this particular article isn't satire).
 
Dooble said:
Yes, it is. Don't be an aimless roguenuke. Read the Alan Keyes link, and then we'll discuss.
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It's not communistic. Just because you are so partisan that you believe everything that is supported by the left must be communism, doesn't make it true. You need more than your partisan beliefs to support such a statement. Alan Keyes is not a reliable source because he is extremely partisan.
 
Dooble said:
Yes. Gay marriage IS communistic. It's blessed by the Left (Communistic in nature) and does nothing to replenish our numbers.
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If by "communistic" there are certain principles of communism with a family structure then I agree. Which also means that straight marriage and polygamy are also communistic in nature as well.

As to a marriage "replenish(ing) our numbers" I am guessing that you are referring to reproduction? Again I have yet to find anyone who can consistently support that Ideal. Now I will give credit to the concept that a couple who gets married and tries but fails to have offspring due to complications previously unknown to them should not be forced out of their marriage. The inconsistency lies in the fact that those who oppose SSM and make the reproduction argument never seek to withhold marriage from straight couples who know that they are incapable of having offspring either due to medical issues (sterile, hysterectomy, etc) or just simply past child bearing age. Those marriages do nothing to replenish our numbers and by your own argument should not occur.

And this country was founded on "religious beliefs", meaning Christianity, and that's what made us great. You'll notice we've been in a steady decline since the Left has been seizing power.
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The founders of this country were of the "Left", relatively speaking, of their country of origin at that time. BY your own argument then, the decline in this country was caused by the ones that forced us to withdraw from Britain.
 
Dooble said:
Yes. Gay marriage IS communistic. It's blessed by the Left (Communistic in nature) and does nothing to replenish our numbers.

And this country was founded on "religious beliefs", meaning Christianity, and that's what made us great. You'll notice we've been in a steady decline since the Left has been seizing power.
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There's no such thing as left and right, only right and wrong. And gay marriage is not wrong. Calling gay marriage communistic is pathetic. It is clear you have nothing knowledgeable to contribute, so I will leave you to spew your nonsense on your own. Nobody cares about your false ideology.
 
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