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Would you vote for a president that was not a christian?

Would you vote for a president that was not a christian?

  • Yes

    Votes: 81 85.3%

  • No

    Votes: 3 3.2%

  • As long as he isn't an atheist

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • As long as he isn't a muslim

    Votes: 10 10.5%
  • Total voters
    95
davidtaylorjr said:
No, that is also not Christian.
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Incorrect. A Christian is one who accepts Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

I'll admit the Mormons have many unique traits, but that does not change the fact that they are Christians.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Incorrect. A Christian is one who accepts Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

I'll admit the Mormons have many unique traits, but that does not change the fact that they are Christians.
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They don't call Jesus Lord, they put themselves equal with Jesus.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
They don't call Jesus Lord, they put themselves equal with Jesus.
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They still consider him to be of a higher degree than the rest of the children of Elohim. He is the Elder Brother.

Regardless, this is not the place to debate whether Mormons are Christians. I suggest you open up a thread in religious discussions, and I'm sure Bob Blaylock will be more than willing to discuss this with you.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
They still consider him to be of a higher degree than the rest of the children of Elohim. He is the Elder Brother.

Regardless, this is not the place to debate whether Mormons are Christians. I suggest you open up a thread in religious discussions, and I'm sure Bob Blaylock will be more than willing to discuss this with you.
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I don't need to open another thread, I didn't bring it up.
 
Navy Pride said:
You Liberals already elected a Muslim for President.

I doubt if I would ever vote for a Muslim.
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In case anyone missed it, NP still thinks Obama is a Muslim and that only Liberals can vote, apparently.
 
99percenter said:
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.
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Wait a minute, didn't the Democrats vote for a ....... the last two times? :lol: At least that's what I heard.



j/k
 
davidtaylorjr said:
They don't believe the same things as Christians. They are Mormons.
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They believe the entirety of the christian bible, and follow jesus christ's teachings. They call themselves christians as well. Mormons simply believe in one more book than you.

So let me get this straight:
- Jews believe in only the old testament, so they're WRONG
- Mormons believe in an extra book after the new testament, so they're WRONG
- Christians believe in the exact correct number of books, so they're RIGHT

That's really you're logic?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
They believe the entirety of the christian bible, and follow jesus christ's teachings. They call themselves christians as well. Mormons simply believe in one more book than you.

So let me get this straight:
- Jews believe in only the old testament, so they're WRONG
- Mormons believe in an extra book after the new testament, so they're WRONG
- Christians believe in the exact correct number of books, so they're RIGHT

That's really you're logic?
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Do you know what the Mormons beleive? Do you know what the Jews believe? It has nothing to do with the number of books, it has to do with what they believe.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Do you know what the Mormons beleive? Do you know what the Jews believe? It has nothing to do with the number of books, it has to do with what they believe.
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Yes, I know what both of them believe. Mormons are christians. Just because you hate one of your religion's sects doesn't mean you get to disown them. The nazis and KKK were christians too. Doesn't mean you are. Just deal with it.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Yes, I know what both of them believe. Mormons are christians. Just because you hate one of your religion's sects doesn't mean you get to disown them. The nazis and KKK were christians too. Doesn't mean you are. Just deal with it.
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If that is what you want to blindly believe. Ok.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
They believe the entirety of the christian bible, and follow jesus christ's teachings. They call themselves christians as well. Mormons simply believe in one more book than you.

So let me get this straight:
- Jews believe in only the old testament, so they're WRONG
- Mormons believe in an extra book after the new testament, so they're WRONG
- Christians believe in the exact correct number of books, so they're RIGHT

That's really you're logic?
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That kind of proves his point though...that although they do believe in related text they are not the same.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Yes, I know what both of them believe. Mormons are christians. Just because you hate one of your religion's sects doesn't mean you get to disown them. The nazis and KKK were christians too. Doesn't mean you are. Just deal with it.
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You just blew your own point with this post. Just because somebody or some group self-identifies as something does not necessarily make it so.
 
radcen said:
You just blew your own point with this post. Just because somebody or some group self-identifies as something does not necessarily make it so.
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In the same way, just because someone (or group) doesn't want another group identifying with them, doesn't necessarily make that so, either.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
If that is what you want to blindly believe. Ok.
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If facts are what I'd like to blindly believe, then yes. Do some research. You'll find they actually do call themselves christians. Your ignorance on the subject is appalling.

Monserrat said:
That kind of proves his point though...that although they do believe in related text they are not the same.
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I never said they were exactly the same. Just that mormons are christians. They are christians that believe in one extra fictional book.

Never mind the fact that they call themselves christians as well.

radcen said:
You just blew your own point with this post. Just because somebody or some group self-identifies as something does not necessarily make it so.
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Mormons do call themselves christians, and adhere to every page of the bible that "traditional" christians do. I'd even argue that the average mormon adheres closer to the bible's morality standards than the average christian. It just so happens those same christians are butthurt about it and don't want to be associated with them. Tough titties.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
If facts are what I'd like to blindly believe, then yes. Do some research. You'll find they actually do call themselves christians. Your ignorance on the subject is appalling.



I never said they were exactly the same. Just that mormons are christians. They are christians that believe in one extra fictional book.

Never mind the fact that they call themselves christians as well.




Mormons do call themselves christians, and adhere to every page of the bible that "traditional" christians do. It just so happens those same christians are butthurt about it and don't want to be associated with them. Tough titties.
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Never said they didn't call themselves Christians.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Mormons do call themselves christians, and adhere to every page of the bible that "traditional" christians do. I'd even argue that the average mormon adheres closer to the bible's morality standards than the average christian. It just so happens those same christians are butthurt about it and don't want to be associated with them. Tough titties.
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I would agree with you on that point. I even said so in a Bible Study I taught many years ago. Let's just say it was not a popular statement.
 
Yes.

As a 25 year old, 6ft, dirty blonde, green eyed Germanic/Scandinavian guy whose parents hail from Catholic and Methodist backgrounds, whether or not our corporate leader..ermmm.. president.. believes in a Jewish zombie god incarnate story from the Middle East is entirely irrelevant to me.


It has nothing to do with my heritage, certainly nothing to do with whether you're capable of morality and, from my personal opinion after 25 years on this planet, is often used as a veiled cover to hide a void ideologues true empty mental closet.

I'll take my heritage and its fun little mythological histories over a Jewish zombie god from the Middle East any day. Give me the Barbarians and the Alans over the Jewish Zombie any day, please. We have a great, rich heritage. I don't want to believe in a Jewish Zombie story developed by one radical against the Romans. Our resistance heritage is much greater and richer than one single Jewish Zombie radical put to death by Rome in a mere day.

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I don't care in the slightest what religion (if any) a candidate belongs to, so long as they do not make irrational or hateful decisions based on that religion. They could be Muslim, Mormon, Wiccan, or Satanist for all I care. So long as they hold allegiance to this country and its people before any kind of supernatural objectives. I would obviously prefer leaders without any religion in the first place, since they would be the most free of this conflict.

Voltaire X said:
I agree, but in the modern era Christianity has been a much more of a peaceful religion.
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Only in the secular west. It is still the source of unmitigated horror and violence in many parts of Africa and Asia. It does not seem to be Christianity that has changed. Rather, secular ideas have displaced religious ideas from power.

Navy Pride said:
You can believe what you like.
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Actually no. I can't. I can only believe what is evidenced and compelling and thus likely true.

ecofarm said:
You have a moving Bible?
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It's running away along with the refrigerator. That is a hilarious image.

radcen said:
You just blew your own point with this post. Just because somebody or some group self-identifies as something does not necessarily make it so.
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Then what does?
 
JC Callender said:
I knew that about Jefferson but always thought Adams was a devout Christian. I don't believe all of our presidents were Christian, I'm sure there were some who simply used it to help get elected.
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I'm sure most of them would say just about anything to get elected. ;)
 
Navy Pride said:
There is so much crap being thrown aroud here.....Lets get one thing straight, Catholics and Christians are one in the same.
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The Catholic Church is Christian in the same way Mormons and Protestants are. They wrap themselves in the mantle of 'Christianity' but in real terms they follow the traditions of men, they celebrate the very holidays they are Biblically admonished not to. The Christianity practiced is actually Pauline Theology and paganism, not the theology of Jesus.
 
I would vote for anyone that I felt was capable of handling the office of the president. I don't really care what someone's religious background is as long as they have a moral compas to help guide them through the tough decisions the president has to make on a daily basis. I thoroughly believe in the separation of church and state, and I have never cared what religion any politician has had.
 
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