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Would you vote for a president that was not a christian?

Would you vote for a president that was not a christian?

  • Yes

    Votes: 81 85.3%
  • No

    Votes: 3 3.2%
  • As long as he isn't an atheist

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • As long as he isn't a muslim

    Votes: 10 10.5%

  • Total voters
    95
Not that. Do you always believe everything you're told at face value?

Again, what makes one a Christian...please give examples that demonstrate Mormons are not Christians. I find them to be every bit Christian as Catholics and mots protestant denominations...for example give reasons why Moroni is not every bit as 'Christian' as Paul...
 
John Adams was a dedicated Christian and Jefferson devised his own version of the Bible.


I am pretty sure Jefferson and the first Adams were not christian. In fact, they publicly ridiculed it. The only concern I have related to religion is the born-again types who can't wait for the world to end. Seems like not a great idea to give them a nuclear arsenal. Other than that, I couldn't care less.
 
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.

You Liberals already elected a Muslim for President.

I doubt if I would ever vote for a Muslim.
 
There is so much crap being thrown aroud here.....Lets get one thing straight, Catholics and Christians are one in the same.
 
John Adams was a dedicated Christian and Jefferson devised his own version of the Bible.

Yeah and removed all claims to divinity, a pretty big refutation of some of the core christian tenets. In particular I find this quote revealing as to why he rewrote it:

Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him [Jesus] by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others again of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism, and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Short, April 13, 1820

So he basically thought there were some parts that were worth preserving as moral guidance, but that Jesus was not divine or rose from the dead or any of that. He also slammed other parts of the NT, such as Revelations.


Adams similarly dismissed the claims of miracles:

God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there never will be any liberal science in the world.
-- John Adams, "this awful blashpemy" that he refers to is the myth of the Incarnation of Christ, from Ira D Cardiff, What Great Men Think of Religion, quoted from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief

So I don't know, but I don't think either could be elected today with comments like those.
 
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.

I would vastly prefer to vote for someone with no religious beliefs at all. Maybe one day I'll get the opportunity.
 
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.

Of course! If I thought that he or she would be a good president, I'm sure I could easily put aside their religious beliefs or lack of. I really want my government to be secular though, so no fanatics.
 
The US has had 44 consecutive christian presidents. I wonder if we will ever have one that isnt.

When I was a kid it was remarkable that Kennedy, a Catholic, was elected.
Wouldn't it be a shame if a Jew couldn't be President?
 
When I was a kid it was remarkable that Kennedy, a Catholic, was elected.
Wouldn't it be a shame if a Jew couldn't be President?

Did you hear the joke about the first Jewish president? So his mom's in the audience of his inauguration, and says to the guy next to her "See that guy up their? His brother's a doctor."
 
Guess nothing's wrong in that..if he is that capable and dedicated to the development of the nation and the people..i won't mind voting for him. This is quite a great thread you started out here..i think we are going to have a serious discussion out here..waiting for opinions from others.
 
I knew that about Jefferson but always thought Adams was a devout Christian. I don't believe all of our presidents were Christian, I'm sure there were some who simply used it to help get elected.

Yeah and removed all claims to divinity, a pretty big refutation of some of the core christian tenets. In particular I find this quote revealing as to why he rewrote it:

Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him [Jesus] by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others again of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism, and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Short, April 13, 1820

So he basically thought there were some parts that were worth preserving as moral guidance, but that Jesus was not divine or rose from the dead or any of that. He also slammed other parts of the NT, such as Revelations.


Adams similarly dismissed the claims of miracles:

God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there never will be any liberal science in the world.
-- John Adams, "this awful blashpemy" that he refers to is the myth of the Incarnation of Christ, from Ira D Cardiff, What Great Men Think of Religion, quoted from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief

So I don't know, but I don't think either could be elected today with comments like those.
 
I am going against the grain here but probably not. My moral values are bound to my Christian beliefs. So I would be more inclined to vote for a Christian president. Would I not vote for someone based on religion? Depends on where they stand on the issues.
 
I somehow doubt that Nixon was following Quakerism to the letter.
Definitely not. But then, no one follows their religion in complete obedience, and ironically, anyone who claims they do proves their failure in so stating. Much of the religious affiliations of the presidents is like a marriage of convenience, anyway. Al Gore would've claimed he was a Rastafarian if it would've helped him win the presidency.
 
Mormons are christians, and they call themselves christians. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean you get to relabel them.

They don't believe the same things as Christians. They are Mormons.
 
Definitely not. But then, no one follows their religion in complete obedience, and ironically, anyone who claims they do proves their failure in so stating. Much of the religious affiliations of the presidents is like a marriage of convenience, anyway. Al Gore would've claimed he was a Rastafarian if it would've helped him win the presidency.

Or Reagan suddenly finding the way to a church when running for the Presidency, and rarely after that. Like any good B actor he knew the value of a good prop and used Christian themes ahhh religiously. He was more of a fortuneteller/tarot card sorta guy in his private life. :roll:
 
Or Reagan suddenly finding the way to a church when running for the Presidency, and rarely after that. Like any good B actor he knew the value of a good prop and used Christian themes ahhh religiously. He was more of a fortuneteller/tarot card sorta guy in his private life. :roll:
Yeah. Really, "W" was probably the most serious concerning religion since Carter. Like them or not, they were honest and forthcoming regarding their religious beliefs. The rest, well we know the allure of power causes all kinds of twists and turns. This constant focus on "religion" rather than on "belief" is not helping our political discourse.
 
I think voting based on one's religion is superficial. The religion shouldn't matter so much as the person and the agenda they are promoting.

For instance, Rick Santorum promoted his Christianity in such a way that it made me cross his name off. In that instance, it did matter because it was him promoting it as part of his agenda. You won't get very far promoting a pseudo-theocracy.

Meanwhile Gary Johnson is a Christian, but didn't make it part of his agenda. He went on the ideas of individual freedom and a smaller government. That is what made me vote for him...

Religion means absolutely nothing unless it is part of the agenda being promoted. Therefore, if a Muslim was to run on the idea of Shea laws...he wouldn't get very far. However, if a Muslim were to run on a basis more political than he/she would get votes.
 
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