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Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

Gay baby

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 45.5%

  • No

    Votes: 42 54.5%
  • Total voters
    77
I wonder how many homophobic anti choicers there are and if these people would make an exception for abortion in this situation like many do in the case of rape or incest?
 
winston53660 said:
I wonder how many homophobic anti choicers there are and if these people would make an exception for abortion in this situation like many do in the case of rape or incest?
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secretly? probably more than a few.
 
I am not ok with this at all, I am pro choice, but its just sounds like your trying to make a perfect race or something. When it is done for genetic breading I THINK it paramount to killing the child for selfish reasons. I do have my moral standers. Shame on the people, who says it is alright to kill this child, because he is gay, liberal, or Atheist ectt...
 
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Originally Posted by Goobieman
Assume for a moment that homosexuality is indeed genetic.
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Defies logic but ok.
Assume for a moment that an unborn child is known to have that gene
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NO. Even if it would possible to determine sexuality, no self respecting society would allow their medical facilities to test unborn childs on something like that.
 
Goobieman said:
Assume for a moment that homosexuality is indeed genetic.
Assume for a moment that an unborn child is known to have that gene
Assume for a moment that the parents do not want to take the chance that their child will be a homosexual

It that sufficient reason to abort the unborn baby?
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Aborting a baby is scientifically impossible so this poll is a moot point.
 
winston53660 said:
Good point.
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Just don't try explaining it to the anti-science/anti-choice crowd. They are to the conservative movement what PETA and the Earth Liberation Front are to the liberal movement.
 
Toothpicvic said:
Just don't try explaining it to the anti-science/anti-choice crowd. They are to the conservative movement what PETA and the Earth Liberation Front are to the liberal movement.
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Goobieman put the straw in the scarecrow :wink:
 
RyrineaHaruno said:
I am not ok with this at all, I am pro choice, but its just sounds like your trying to make a perfect race or something. When it is done for genetic breading I THINK it paramount to killing the child for selfish reasons. I do have my moral standers. Shame on the people, who says it is alright to kill this child, because he is gay, liberal, or Atheist ectt...
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Who are you to dictate a woman's body? If she doesn't want a gay child, why should she be forced against her will to have a gay child?
 
winston53660 said:
I wonder how many homophobic anti choicers there are and if these people would make an exception for abortion in this situation like many do in the case of rape or incest?
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I think you'll find the other side of the coin more prevalent. That is pro-choice people thinking this shouldn't be allowed more so than you'd find pro-life people thinking this should be allowed. While many religious people for one reason or another do not agree with homosexuality; I have not seen many who actually champion their deaths. There are some of course, but it's not true of the whole. Whereas I think more people on the pro-choice side would understand the inherent dangers and injustice which came from aborting a child just because the child was gay. The pro-life side merely extends that to a child just being conceived through no action of their own but the choices of the adults who know better and have some understanding of basic biology.
 
RyrineaHaruno said:
I am not ok with this at all, I am pro choice, but its just sounds like your trying to make a perfect race or something. When it is done for genetic breading I THINK it paramount to killing the child for selfish reasons. I do have my moral standers. Shame on the people, who says it is alright to kill this child, because he is gay, liberal, or Atheist ectt...
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most reasons for aborting are selfish. the point is, it's legal. there's no test of morality required to obtain an abortion. is it disgusting? yes. legal? yes.
 
RyrineaHaruno said:
I am not ok with this at all, I am pro choice, but its just sounds like your trying to make a perfect race or something. When it is done for genetic breading I THINK it paramount to killing the child for selfish reasons. I do have my moral standers. Shame on the people, who says it is alright to kill this child, because he is gay, liberal, or Atheist ectt...
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No one wants a gay child....
However, they may learn to accept it...;)
 
Ikari said:
If people honestly think abortion to be an elective sort of process, then they can't really say it's not OK. If you can choose to get rid of your baby for whatever reason (which is the attitude of many "pro-choice" people), then the baby being gay is the same as not having money or not wanting the responsibility or anything like that. I would find it quite contradictory in fact if the majority of pro-choice people came out against aborting gay babies.
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You think it's ok to abort fetuses who have a genetic gene toward homosexuality?

I don't think its ok to have an abortion. I also don't think it should be outlawed in all cases. We have already been there and done that and it was a disaster with coat hanger back alley abortions and women dying of infection or blood loss.

Whenever it's medically possible, women ought to be counseled and encouraged to carry the pregnancy to term and opt for adoption if they are unable to raise the child for whatever reason.
 
liblady said:
most reasons for aborting are selfish. the point is, it's legal. there's no test of morality required to obtain an abortion. is it disgusting? yes. legal? yes.
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I don't see why that is since it's all subjective, and by scientific fact, a fetus/embryo isn't a homo sapien. Most reasons for eating meat are selfish I guess, but I don't pay attention to PETA and the "meat is murder crowd", just like I don't pay attention to their anti-choice buddies.
 
Toothpicvic said:
I don't see why that is since it's all subjective, and by scientific fact, a fetus/embryo isn't a homo sapien. Most reasons for eating meat are selfish I guess, but I don't pay attention to PETA and the "meat is murder crowd", just like I don't pay attention to their anti-choice buddies.
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Murder is sooooo tasty.
 
windovervocalcords said:
I'm pretty shocked that people think it's ok to abort someone just because they may turn out to be gay.

I wouldn't have thought it possible to see 22 people agreeing on genocide for gays.
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No - it's not "just because they're gay" - I, in particular, fully support abortion.

It's because the parents have a right to abort - and no one has the right to tell them why they can and why they can't abort. It's not a 'gay' issue for me - it's that their reasons are none of my business.
 
Assuming that homosexualism is genetic, then...

Since there are fewer then heteros it's probably a recessive gene, then...

It would take two homosexuals mating to make a new homosexual, then...

It's probably not really genetic is it?
 
Aunt Spiker said:
No - it's not "just because they're gay" - I, in particular, fully support abortion.

It's because the parents have a right to abort - and no one has the right to tell them why they can and why they can't abort. It's not a 'gay' issue for me - it's that their reasons are none of my business.
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Genocide is everybody's business.
 
LowRevs said:
Assuming that homosexualism is genetic, then...

Since there are fewer then heteros it's probably a recessive gene, then...

It would take two homosexuals mating to make a new homosexual, then...

It's probably not really genetic is it?
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Actually, if it were recessive two hetero parents who carry the recessive gene could produce a gay offspring if they both passed on the recessive gene.

Think of G as the recessive gay gene and H as the dominant straight gene.


Parent one is HG, parent two is HG

They each pass on either H or G to their offspring. That means one out of four would be HH or GG and 1 out of two would be HG.

That's assuming the trait was dictated by a single gene. Many traits are dictated by multiple genes. Such as Eye color.

The parents only need to be carriers. They don't have to display the trait when it is recessive.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Oh please. It's not genocide - don't even try that dramatic.
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If you're going to abort gay babies, then its genocide of gays. It's a final solution. Too bad. I can think of plenty of prospective childless parents who would be happy to raise a gay child or any child.
 
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