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Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

Should the school have banned the reading of the prayer by the student?

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 27.3%
  • No

    Votes: 60 68.2%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 4.5%

  • Total voters
    88
When did I infer that badgering you would be acceptable? In fact, I have been stating that it would not...

this shows that you don't have unlimited free speech, on property not your own.

the idea is, a person or persons should not use gatherings of people, where those people have to do business, or there for a particular reason, to put forth an agenda or a message.
 
All this "liability" bs given as an excuse to restrict speech is just that, bs. Good evening 2m...

Good evening, AP. :2wave:

:agree:

I've been on a business trip, but I can't help but wonder at the amount of hostility this thread has unearthed by a valedictorian reciting the Lord's Prayer at a commencement! I could understand, maybe, if bad language or hate for some group were the subject of the speech, but who could be offended by a prayer in any language? Whatever happened to tolerance for others in this Country? :shock:
 
No. There was a case in a neighboring town where the child lied to the parents, said he was going somewhere else, and he went to the school with a buddy, and they vandalized it. Apparently there was 100,000 dollars worth of damage. A 15 year old and a 16 year old. The parents were held financially responsible. I can get a link to that story if you'd like.

Links are always appreciated but in this instance, I'm not sure what responsibility a parent has...
 
When a function is paid with "tax dollars" equal voices must preside. It is not an avenue to pontificate one''s own ideals exclusively.

Where is that written exactly? I really can't find that anywhere.
 
Good evening, AP. :2wave:

:agree:

I've been on a business trip, but I can't help but wonder at the amount of hostility this thread has unearthed by a valedictorian reciting the Lord's Prayer at a commencement! I could understand, maybe, if bad language or hate for some group were the subject of the speech, but who could be offended by a prayer in any language? Whatever happened to tolerance for others in this Country? :shock:

I'm trying to figure it out myself. Good evening pg...
 
this shows that you don't have unlimited free speech, on property not your own.

the idea is, a person or persons should not use gatherings of people, where those people have to do business, or there for a particular reason, to put forth an agenda or a message.

Is public property not owned by the public?
 
Links are always appreciated but in this instance, I'm not sure what responsibility a parent has...

Well, the point is that minors do not have the same rights as adults and that a minor's parents are responsible for his or her actions still. For you to portray high seniors as "adults" is just rather silly. They really are not adults. They are not self-sufficient.
 
this shows that you don't have unlimited free speech, on property not your own.

the idea is, a person or persons should not use gatherings of people, where those people have to do business, or there for a particular reason, to put forth an agenda or a message.

How in the hell did we ever have a revolution establishing this country?
 
Good evening, AP. :2wave:

:agree:

I've been on a business trip, but I can't help but wonder at the amount of hostility this thread has unearthed by a valedictorian reciting the Lord's Prayer at a commencement! I could understand, maybe, if bad language or hate for some group were the subject of the speech, but who could be offended by a prayer in any language? Whatever happened to tolerance for others in this Country? :shock:

Who is being hostile? Examples please. I thought it was a pretty civil conversation we were having.
 
On functions supported by tax moneys citizens get an equal voice.

Well I guess in the day and age of Everybody Gets an Award, it it just inevitable that Everybody Gets to Be Valedictorian too :roll:

To be honest I am more surprised that they are still allowed to have Valedictorians and Salutatorians since that reveals that all the other kids have worse grades and that is harmful for the world to know most parents' dumbass is, in fact, a dumbass.
 
I happen to think we are all equal under the law.

He is there to speak and you are there to listen. Do you make this point at every speech in a public building or just this one?
 
Well, the point is that minors do not have the same rights as adults and that a minor's parents are responsible for his or her actions still. For you to portray high seniors as "adults" is just rather silly. They really are not adults. They are not self-sufficient.

Both of my children were fairly self sufficient once graduating from HS. One had used delayed enlistment in the military during the junior year, and the other had scholarships for college in hand...
 
Good evening, AP. :2wave:

:agree:

I've been on a business trip, but I can't help but wonder at the amount of hostility this thread has unearthed by a valedictorian reciting the Lord's Prayer at a commencement! I could understand, maybe, if bad language or hate for some group were the subject of the speech, but who could be offended by a prayer in any language? Whatever happened to tolerance for others in this Country? :shock:

Or maybe you view people who disagree with your viewpoints as "hostile?"
 
How in the hell did we ever have a revolution establishing this country?

Well harking back to the Boston Tea Party it was over tax breaks the British gave to tea importers that pissed off tea smugglers.
 
Well harking back to the Boston Tea Party it was over tax breaks the British gave to tea importers that pissed off tea smugglers.

But if no one were allowed to speak about it, then what?
 
He is there to speak and you are there to listen. Do you make this point at every speech in a public building or just this one?

Pay the rent for that night and say whatever you want to. In this case the public paid the rent.
 
The valedictorian was an invited speaker...

Any venue would be allowed to view and preapprove a guest speakers speech if they requested to do so.
 
Or maybe you view people who disagree with your viewpoints as "hostile?"


Or maybe she's just not afraid of free speech and the marketplace of ideas. You were pretty quick to use the word "dishonesty" with me. This valedictorian is a brave and courageous young man who did a fine thing. Ours would be a better country if he were widely emulated.:peace
 
Or maybe she's just not afraid of free speech and the marketplace of ideas. You were pretty quick to use the word "dishonesty" with me. This valedictorian is a brave and courageous young man who did a fine thing. Ours would be a better country if he were widely emulated.:peace

Sneaky and dishonest is what he actually is.
 
Pay the rent for that night and say whatever you want to. In this case the public paid the rent.

Look, you didn't finish first and he did. As such he gets to speak and say what he wants and you don't. Like it is with any other public speaking event the speakers are invited to speak and that is what they do. No one ever said that life was fair and everyone would finish first.
 
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