Public Opinion

So it has come to my attention that every day when I get on here there is a new "scandal" being brought to light about the Obama administration. While some are major like the IRS scandal and Benghazi, they are becoming more irrelevant as time goes on. And it seems people are just trying to find anything to deface the President. I'm just looking to see what these daily "scandals" have done to your opinion of the President?

iacardsfan said:

So it has come to my attention that every day when I get on here there is a new "scandal" being brought to light about the Obama administration. While some are major like the IRS scandal and Benghazi, they are becoming more irrelevant as time goes on. And it seems people are just trying to find anything to deface the President. I'm just looking to see what these daily "scandals" have done to your opinion of the President?

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The people who like him still like him. The people that didn't still don't. No surprise there.

The only scandals that have changed my thinking of him are due to the NSA and AP delio's.

I also don't think a Republican President is any better in those aspects so it's lose/lose.

The "scandals" have done nothing to affect my opinion of the President since, for the most part, he was not directly involved in any of them.

My opinion of him did, however, lower when his pick for the director of the FBI was released. It makes zero sense to choose someone to head the FBI who has never worked in the FBI. I reminds me of how stupid it was of him to choose Arne Duncan as Sec. of Education. The guy has not only never taught; he also headed the Chicago Public School System and failed. In addition, I was turned off by Obama picking Penny Pritzker for hi Sec. of Commerce nominee.

In other words, my opinion of him was lowered by things he actually had control over. All of these "scandals" are based in things he didn't have control over, but that Republicans are trying to make it seem like he had control over. It's hilarious. Republicans can't even figure out how to make Obama look bad even when there's plenty to actually criticize him over.

iacardsfan said:

So it has come to my attention that every day when I get on here there is a new "scandal" being brought to light about the Obama administration. While some are major like the IRS scandal and Benghazi, they are becoming more irrelevant as time goes on. And it seems people are just trying to find anything to deface the President. I'm just looking to see what these daily "scandals" have done to your opinion of the President?

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It's just solidifying my original dislike for the guy since 2008. The year I became a Republican.

iacardsfan said:

So it has come to my attention that every day when I get on here there is a new "scandal" being brought to light about the Obama administration. While some are major like the IRS scandal and Benghazi, they are becoming more irrelevant as time goes on. And it seems people are just trying to find anything to deface the President. I'm just looking to see what these daily "scandals" have done to your opinion of the President?

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I think it shows how ****ed up our two-party system is when Democrats only rant against the wrongdoings of a Republican President and when Republicans only rant against the wrongdoings of a Democratic President.

Look. A "Public Opinion" poll.

With the liberal democrats being as Big Brotherly if not moreso than the GOP hawks, it tells me our society is screwed.

iacardsfan said:

So it has come to my attention that every day when I get on here there is a new "scandal" being brought to light about the Obama administration. While some are major like the IRS scandal and Benghazi, they are becoming more irrelevant as time goes on. And it seems people are just trying to find anything to deface the President. I'm just looking to see what these daily "scandals" have done to your opinion of the President?

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I'm waiting for something if real substance that can actually be linked to him. The IRS so far is the most concerning, but still nothing we can hang directly on Obama.

If Bengahzi didn't shake Obama's fans faith in him, nothing will.

Boo Radley said:

I'm waiting for something if real substance that can actually be linked to him. The IRS so far is the most concerning, but still nothing we can hang directly on Obama.

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In my experience, you all aren't really interested in the truth if it might make Obama look bad.

X Factor said:

In my experience, you all aren't really interested in the truth if it might make Obama look bad.

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More interested than many if you were concerning Bush. But the fact is most of those who hate Obama are hyperbolic in their rhetoric concerning these scandals, large seeing something no where near proven. You don't need any stink'in evidence. Just your irrational hate.

iacardsfan said:

So it has come to my attention that every day when I get on here there is a new "scandal" being brought to light about the Obama administration. While some are major like the IRS scandal and Benghazi, they are becoming more irrelevant as time goes on. And it seems people are just trying to find anything to deface the President. I'm just looking to see what these daily "scandals" have done to your opinion of the President?

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As a republican all of my adult life with the exception of my freshman year in college, back in 2008 I was supporter of the GOP and backed Huckabee in the primary and planned to vote for whoever was the GOP nominee in November. However I was impressed with the groundbreaking nature of the Obama candidacy and although I did not plan to vote for him myself due to differences on the issues, I found his run to be inspirational and historical in light of the sad and tragic history of race relations in American and saw it as a milestone in American history. Then the GOP starts to lose its mind and to say I was disappointed by the demonization tactics and double standards would be an understatement. I still voted for John McCain however because I felt he did not approve of the tactics of others in the GOP and thinking he would bring a wealth of experience to the Oval Office and he is undeniably a legitimate American hero.

However, the GOP insanity only went into overdrive from 2009 to 2012 from the characterization of Shirley Sharrod to cheering for American losing against Brazil to host the Olympics to after school fights caught on tape used to deliberately incite racial animosity to the birther controversy to celebrating the high urban crime rate in Chicago and a list of double standards so long I'd rather not even start. By 2012 I'd had enough and voted for Obama, not because I like his policies so much but because I feel like vomiting over the sick culture of the GOP and I do think some of it is rooted in racism. In fact, I voted for democrats in every single race where a democrat was on the ballot against a republican. Leaders in the GOP I once thought the world of I began to see in an entirely different light.

Boo Radley said:

More interested than many if you were concerning Bush. But the fact is most of those who hate Obama are hyperbolic in their rhetoric concerning these scandals, large seeing something no where near proven. You don't need any stink'in evidence. Just your irrational hate.

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The disinterest and even open hostility to trying to figure out why Bengahzi happened was a sad eye opener to me. I'd be pissed about it and want heads to roll regardless of the party affiliation of the president. You all were more interested in circling the wagons.

X Factor said:

The disinterest and even open hostility to trying to figure out why Bengahzi happened was a sad eye opener to me. I'd be pissed about it and want heads to roll regardless of the party affiliation of the president. You all were more interested in circling the wagons.

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Many have a fictional account if Benghazi and that is why you're so upset. You believe the hyperbolic and lack the ability and rationality to see it for what it is. You have the fever. I recommend turning off the talking heads, spend a few days in the country, say fishing, and try to find your rational mind.

That was some humor. But Benghazi has not been in any shown to be what many pretend it is.

The scandals are further proof that Obama needs to step down from office.

iacardsfan said:

So it has come to my attention that every day when I get on here there is a new "scandal" being brought to light about the Obama administration. While some are major like the IRS scandal and Benghazi, they are becoming more irrelevant as time goes on. And it seems people are just trying to find anything to deface the President. I'm just looking to see what these daily "scandals" have done to your opinion of the President?

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i find the civil liberties aspect of his presidency very disappointing. the IRS targeting of fake charities on one side is also completely unacceptable. if you're going to scrutinize pretend charities, you have to scrutinize all of them. as for Benghazi, we should have never been there in the first place, but the microscope has been put onto the tragedy so that it could be used as a political tool and to stir up people who hate the president so that networks could raise ad revenue. there have been many embassies attacks and many people killed, and not one of the other attacks received saturation coverage for eight months. the one good thing that should have come out of this tragedy is that we should have had a national discussion about getting the **** out of places where we shouldn't have embassies. but they're probably building another one right now, unfortunately, and embassy attacks will happen again and again and again even if we cover them with a twenty foot thick concrete dome. it's sad. i would prefer that we go back to just being a country rather than trying to be a global military superpower.

as for what i think of him, i can't imagine why he or anyone else wants that job. i'm fairly tired of the administration, and i'm dreading the next one. i'm basically kind of meh about it. he ran on stuff that i knew (and he knew) he couldn't realistically do, and the opposition in congress has been almost historic. back when i was a libertarian, i viewed gridlock as a good thing, but it sucks. nothing gets done except fighting, and there are some things we really need to be planning for. i feel like both sides are insulting my intelligence with everything they say. the political teamsports aren't even done well; they're as transparent as glass, and no one sees it because they don't want to see it. people don't want to criticize their team, and they get emotionally attached to anything that they feel might one up the other side. and yet, the same people hang out in right wing or left wing echo chambers and privately hate their own side almost as much as they hate the other.

we need more choices. part of it is legal protection that legislators have given themselves, part of it is inertia, and another part of it is gerrymandering. however, most of the fault lies with us for not demanding more choices.

Boo Radley said:

More interested than many if you were concerning Bush. But the fact is most of those who hate Obama are hyperbolic in their rhetoric concerning these scandals, large seeing something no where near proven. You don't need any stink'in evidence. Just your irrational hate.

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That's true of those who are irrational, irrespective of party or lean.

But there are many more who don't hate the President and have wished him well, if only for our nation's sake, and who are bitterly disappointed day after day. There is no need for hyperbole; there is plenty of evidence to suggest, at the charitable least, that Obama is incompetent. There is just too much that he claims not to have known and no way at all to justify or spin such scandals as the IRS.

X Factor said:

In my experience, you all aren't really interested in the truth if it might make Obama look bad.

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In my experience mud slingers will pick up any kind of muck they can reach, even if it's their own feces.

I stopped paying attention to that kind of junk a loooong time ago.

nota bene said:

That's true of those who are irrational, irrespective of party or lean.

But there are many more who don't hate the President and have wished him well, if only for our nation's sake, and who are bitterly disappointed day after day. There is no need for hyperbole; there is plenty of evidence to suggest, at the charitable least, that Obama is incompetent. There is just too much that he claims not to have known and no way at all to justify or spin such scandals as the IRS.

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There are real issues, but the incompetent claim is hyperbole.

iacardsfan said:

So it has come to my attention that every day when I get on here there is a new "scandal" being brought to light about the Obama administration. While some are major like the IRS scandal and Benghazi, they are becoming more irrelevant as time goes on. And it seems people are just trying to find anything to deface the President. I'm just looking to see what these daily "scandals" have done to your opinion of the President?

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My opinion of the president hasn't changed at all with all the scandals coming to light. It is my opinion that these scandals are more a highlighting of the corruption of good government and the parasitic nature of our current political landscape. Governing has basically become the mistreated kid, torn between divorcing parents who both want his favor, and as long as American politics is acted out as a war between Democrats and Republicans, our society will continue to slowly be torn apart and our government will continue to function as an emotionally maladjusted teenager.

I've never held a high opinion of Obama, nor was I overly enthusiastic about his victory, but if I didn't support him I was ultimately going against my best interest.

As for the scandals, I have a rule of thumb to wait for the dust to clear before making my opinion known. Too often I've tried to hop in and found myself surrounded by nothing but bull****.

No effect-- I already held his administration in contempt.

Smeagol said:

As a republican all of my adult life with the exception of my freshman year in college, back in 2008 I was supporter of the GOP and backed Huckabee in the primary and planned to vote for whoever was the GOP nominee in November. However I was impressed with the groundbreaking nature of the Obama candidacy and although I did not plan to vote for him myself due to differences on the issues, I found his run to be inspirational and historical in light of the sad and tragic history of race relations in American and saw it as a milestone in American history. Then the GOP starts to lose its mind and to say I was disappointed by the demonization tactics and double standards would be an understatement. I still voted for John McCain however because I felt he did not approve of the tactics of others in the GOP and thinking he would bring a wealth of experience to the Oval Office and he is undeniably a legitimate American hero.

However, the GOP insanity only went into overdrive from 2009 to 2012 from the characterization of Shirley Sharrod to cheering for American losing against Brazil to host the Olympics to after school fights caught on tape used to deliberately incite racial animosity to the birther controversy to celebrating the high urban crime rate in Chicago and a list of double standards so long I'd rather not even start. By 2012 I'd had enough and voted for Obama, not because I like his policies so much but because I feel like vomiting over the sick culture of the GOP and I do think some of it is rooted in racism. In fact, I voted for democrats in every single race where a democrat was on the ballot against a republican. Leaders in the GOP I once thought the world of I began to see in an entirely different light.

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Almost forgot; add to all that the targeted but backfired voter supression tactics of the GOP to reduce minority voting.

I voted for Obama in 2008 and was cautiously optimistic. I lost confidence in him well before the scandals, though. He is just another politician beholden to the corporatocracy. I love what he says. But I hate what he does.