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Institutional Racism [W:344]

Does institutional racism currently exist in America?

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In some parts yes, in other parts no.

DP is mainly an American focused site. When you visit sites that talk about international politics, race does not come up as much.

America is hooked on talking about race.
 
Yes, but not in the way people always think. I think holding minorities to a defacto lower standard of performance/expectation whether it comes to academics, college admissions or public assistance programs creates a negative feedback loop of sorts that causes a great many minorities to have lower expectations for themselves. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
As long as the criminal organization known colloquially as the "Democratic" party holds a significant amount of political power there will continually be institutionalized racism in America.
 
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Fisher said:
Yes, but not in the way people always think. I think holding minorities to a defacto lower standard of performance/expectation whether it comes to academics, college admissions or public assistance programs creates a negative feedback loop of sorts that causes a great many minorities to have lower expectations for themselves. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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it didn't stop Barry Soetoro's rise to power. :cool:
 
Yes, affirmative actions is institutionalized racism.
 
Phys251 said:
Does institutional racism currently exist in America?
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Given "inertia" as part of the definition, I would have to say that there is still some inertia going on and that can only be countered so much. I do sometimes wonder if various rights groups (race, SSM, whatever) have way too much of this "We want it NOW" mentality that is so pervasive, especially in our younger generations, and are not willing to take the "Conquer part A, then conquer part B, etc" approach that will slower, would probably result in a more steady progression

Northern Light said:
America is hooked on talking about race.
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On both sides of the coin. Actually in multiple views. You got those who won't let it go, those who don't believe that others have let it go (the automatic "you denied me therefore you must be racist" types), and even those who secretly work to keep it because it's such a cash cow for them ***cough***Reverends J&S***cough***
 
From a non-American perspective:

As far as I know, the African American average regarding education and income is still significantly lower than that of white Americans. Since I don't buy the racist "genetically inferior" explanation, my best guess is that it does at least partly have to do with institutional racism (as defined in the link in the OP). Sounds like a reasonable explanation to me on first glance. But I'm open for better explanations.
 
German guy said:
From a non-American perspective:

As far as I know, the African American average regarding education and income is still significantly lower than that of white Americans. Since I don't buy the racist "genetically inferior" explanation, my best guess is that it does at least partly have to do with institutional racism (as defined in the link in the OP). Sounds like a reasonable explanation to me on first glance. But I'm open for better explanations.
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For that specific example, how much of it is racism and how much of it is the rap/hip-hop culture that shuns learning and real work and berates blacks who are trying as being "too white" for trying to succeed? See Bill Cosby's various speeches on the culture issue. While I will not dismiss racism from the equation, such culture cannot be dismissed either. I'd like to see a good non-biased study done to see which is the higher influence and also if that could shift from area to area (i.e. the culture is the higher influence in large metro areas, while racism is the higher in more rural areas, as a potential result)
 
affirmative action?.

Racism de jure doesn't get any more institutionalized.
 
German guy said:
From a non-American perspective:

As far as I know, the African American average regarding education and income is still significantly lower than that of white Americans. Since I don't buy the racist "genetically inferior" explanation, my best guess is that it does at least partly have to do with institutional racism (as defined in the link in the OP). Sounds like a reasonable explanation to me on first glance. But I'm open for better explanations.
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How we doing on the equality front with those serfs, er, i mean Turks in ze fatherland.
 
vendur said:
How we doing on the equality front with those serfs, er, i mean Turks in ze fatherland.
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Mixed. Some do pretty well, others not so much. And the latter has to do with institutional racism, IMO, among other factors.
 
German guy said:
Mixed. Some do pretty well, others not so much. And the latter has to do with institutional racism, IMO, among other factors.
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Such as?
 
German guy said:
From a non-American perspective:

As far as I know, the African American average regarding education and income is still significantly lower than that of white Americans. Since I don't buy the racist "genetically inferior" explanation, my best guess is that it does at least partly have to do with institutional racism (as defined in the link in the OP). Sounds like a reasonable explanation to me on first glance. But I'm open for better explanations.
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What's inferior is their education, by and large. 70% of blacks live in the inner-city or "inner-ring cities." Those schools are failing.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Background Readings | PBS
 
MaggieD said:
What's inferior is their education, by and large. 70% of blacks live in the inner-city or "inner-ring cities." Those schools are failing.

RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Background Readings | PBS
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Which, depending on your view, qualifies as "institutional racism". Or so many people would argue here when it comes to Turkish immigrants. We won't really stop this type of racism until we provide good education to this minority too, and unless our schools stop advantaging pupils of parents with an elevated social background.
 
German guy said:
Such as cultural factors.
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Welcome to america. I should warn ya, though, security is tight. No way you will get that log passed TSA.
 
German guy said:
Which, depending on your view, qualifies as "institutional racism". Or so many people would argue here when it comes to Turkish immigrants. We won't really stop this type of racism until we provide good education to this minority too, and unless our schools stop advantaging pupils of parents with an elevated social background.
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Stop advantaging pupils of parents with an elevated social background? Since the majority of our schools are public, there's no such thing. Pupils are "advantaged," mostly, because their parents actually give a damn.
 
WCH said:
it didn't stop Barry Soetoro's rise to power. :cool:
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And it doesn't stop Barry and company from exploiting race whenever it suits their purpose.
 
Phys251 said:
Does institutional racism currently exist in America?
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Yes, it exists and it is rampant. We've pushed most forms of overt racism to the margins of society. However, institutional racism still dominates society. It dominates the media in addition to the judicial, educational and other aspects of government. It also plays a huge role in how people relate to each other and perceive themselves. It's pervasive in American society.
 
ReformCollege said:
As long as we continue to make race an issue, racism will always be an issue.
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Sounds like: "If we don't talk about race, racism will go away." Is that an accurate interpretation of your comment?
 
German guy said:
Huh? Guess I just hit the language barrier. ;)
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First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will be able see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s,
-- mathew, something or other.
 
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