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Which of these multi-nationals has done the most harm to the world?

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1) big Pharma
2) big oil
3) arms dealers
4) mega-farms and mega-ranches
5) Insurance companies
6) mega-banks skirting tax laws


Feel free to add your own.
For me, it it's big Pharma hands down. Not only have they trashed a new generation of teenagers, the addiction cuts across generations. Doctors, especially the foreign ones in this Country, are no more than pill dispensers. The VA/Tri-Care for Life has been financially raped.
 
The United Nations.
 
Better would have been the League of Nations. Maybe it should have been all Americans in Korea instead of those from Great Britain like my Uncle who died of gangrene. More dangerous R. Paul talk.
 
Why did OPEC form? Up until OPEC, the USA simply stole what they wanted beginning with the Panama Canal. And why were we in South Africa?
 
Monsanto. Make Pfizer look benevolent.
 
Big oil or OPEC. or both.
 
specklebang said:
Monsanto. Make Pfizer look benevolent.[/QU
For starters, I believe families affected by Oxycodone would disagree. The pharmaceuticals and the damage done, as I'll borrow from Neil Young. Lorazepam has turned our elderly into Zombies we externally call Alzheimer's.
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Arms dealers, throughout history.
 
NIMBY said:
Why did OPEC form? Up until OPEC, the USA simply stole what they wanted beginning with the Panama Canal. And why were we in South Africa?
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lol, stole? We paid Panama well over 100 million dollars, and paid Columbia tens of millions, just to get them to recognize Panama as a legitimate state.
 
NIMBY said:
1) big Pharma
2) big oil
3) arms dealers
4) mega-farms and mega-ranches
5) Insurance companies
6) mega-banks skirting tax laws


Feel free to add your own.
For me, it it's big Pharma hands down. Not only have they trashed a new generation of teenagers, the addiction cuts across generations. Doctors, especially the foreign ones in this Country, are no more than pill dispensers. The VA/Tri-Care for Life has been financially raped.
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I'm going to assume by "arms dealers" you mean legal manufacturers and sellers of arms, not the black market guys. That said, in my view, the first four have actually benefited society because they have each improved the quality of and access to the products we need in our lives to survive and thrive in today's world.

The latter two have simply been leeches who have fed off the hard work and enterprise of the "everyman". They generally provide a service we really don't want to purchase and really don't necessarily need and they make gobs and gobs of profit with no real benefit to society.
 
Surtr said:
lol, stole? We paid Panama well over 100 million dollars, and paid Columbia tens of millions, just to get them to recognize Panama as a legitimate state.
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IOW, we paid them off. Paid them or else. Or else with a gun to their heads. Paid them off with future earnings from said canal. And the money benefitted who? The people? How about the future Noriegas?
But this is who we are and why we're hated in the world.
 
NIMBY said:
IOW, we paid them off. Paid them or else. Or else with a gun to their heads. Paid them off with future earnings from said canal. And the money benefitted who? The people? How about the future Noriegas?
But this is who we are and why we're hated in the world.
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We gave them their secession from Columbia, and enough money to start a standing nation. You really should google this before spouting off nonsense.
 
Canada John----Have you seen the every-man farmer run out of business by multi-national mega-farmers? Talk about the 1% of the 1% of the 1%? have you seen the pharms and the damage done--to families--to our economy through insurance? I'll say this. Your post was rationale without my hyperbole.
 
Surtr said:
We gave them their secession from Columbia, and enough money to start a standing nation. You really should google this before spouting off nonsense.
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As Zeppelin would say, the only nonsense is for Britain's imperialist child America to decide "what is and what shall never be".
 
Chemical manufacturing. It has done a lot of good on balance, but when things go wrong they go very wrong with their products.
 
NIMBY said:
1) big Pharma
2) big oil
3) arms dealers
4) mega-farms and mega-ranches
5) Insurance companies
6) mega-banks skirting tax laws


Feel free to add your own.
For me, it it's big Pharma hands down. Not only have they trashed a new generation of teenagers, the addiction cuts across generations. Doctors, especially the foreign ones in this Country, are no more than pill dispensers. The VA/Tri-Care for Life has been financially raped.
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I don't understand much of the hate many people have for "big pharma."

There is a prescription drug abuse problem and illegal drug abuse problem (and it's more than teenagers), but the problem lies with the people abusing the drugs, the physicians prescribing them, and the pharmacists dispensing them. Ultimately, the biggest problem is with the people abusing them and the culture that harbors such actions. Most widely abused drugs are not that expensive, "big pharma" makes most of its money developing new drugs to treat chronic condition.
 
digsbe said:
I don't understand much of the hate many people have for "big pharma."

There is a prescription drug abuse problem and illegal drug abuse problem (and it's more than teenagers), but the problem lies with the people abusing the drugs, the physicians prescribing them, and the pharmacists dispensing them. Ultimately, the biggest problem is with the people abusing them and the culture that harbors such actions. Most widely abused drugs are not that expensive, "big pharma" makes most of its money developing new drugs to treat chronic condition.
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You have to take the OP's lean into account when making the thread and its choices. Then you have Goshin and I give legitimate "other" alternatives which may stray from the left-hugging answers and it just sets off the righteous indignation.
 
Fisher said:
Chemical manufacturing. It has done a lot of good on balance, but when things go wrong they go very wrong with their products.
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As tech advanced as we are, West , Texas should not have happened. 1,300 times the allowed amount of Ammonium Nitrate. Lax regs on BO from before Obama all leading to the 80'd when deregulation started. Single-hull tankers. I do not know how to make this a voting poll at the top. Certainly, multi-national chemical problems are huge. Maybe Rand Paul and the renegades should look a little closer to these New World Order problems.
 
digsbe said:
I don't understand much of the hate many people have for "big pharma."

There is a prescription drug abuse problem and illegal drug abuse problem (and it's more than teenagers), but the problem lies with the people abusing the drugs, the physicians prescribing them, and the pharmacists dispensing them. Ultimately, the biggest problem is with the people abusing them and the culture that harbors such actions. Most widely abused drugs are not that expensive, "big pharma" makes most of its money developing new drugs to treat chronic condition.
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Florida should be excommunicated from this Country for what is has done with Oxycodone. You deny it is the fault of Big Pharma and then list several truths making my case. Thank you. Big Pharma is impervious to control. I'm wondering whether these "bad drug" lawsuits are a ruse by big Pharma, including the latest I've seen on Lipitor. And yes I do know a little chemistry.
 
NIMBY said:
Florida should be excommunicated from this Country for what is has done with Oxycodone. You deny it is the fault of Big Pharma and then list several truths making my case. Thank you. Big Pharma is impervious to control. I'm wondering whether these "bad drug" lawsuits are a ruse by big Pharma, including the latest I've seen on Lipitor. And yes I do know a little chemistry.
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Please explain how I listed how it's "big pharma's" fault. "Big pharma" is also probably among the most controlled business models in the world, it's hardly impervious to control.

There is a massive Oxy problem (and other drugs) in Florida and many other states in general. But as I said, the chief one at fault is the individual addict followed by the practitioners that enable it. The state is also at fault, largely Medicaid programs that fund a lot of the addictions. I know a little chemistry too ;)

Do you realize that drugs go through an excruciatingly controlled and expensive process under the FDA in order to develop and release new drugs to the market for use in humans?
 
digsbe said:
Please explain how I listed how it's "big pharma's" fault. "Big pharma" is also probably among the most controlled business models in the world, it's hardly impervious to control.

There is a massive Oxy problem (and other drugs) in Florida and many other states in general. But as I said, the chief one at fault is the individual addict followed by the practitioners that enable it. The state is also at fault, largely Medicaid programs that fund a lot of the addictions. I know a little chemistry too ;)

Do you realize that drugs go through an excruciatingly controlled and expensive process under the FDA in order to develop and release new drugs to the market for use in humans?
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It is so easy for some to blame the individual? I'm sure you've noticed the marketing of over-caffeinated drinks to our teenagers. Peer pressure is their fault. Then they're in their 20's and just another addicted American. It's their fault, just ad with cigs and weed and especially alcohol.
 
NIMBY said:
It is so easy for some to blame the individual? I'm sure you've noticed the marketing of over-caffeinated drinks to our teenagers. Peer pressure is their fault. Then they're in their 20's and just another addicted American. It's their fault, just ad with cigs and weed and especially alcohol.
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Caffeinated drinks =/= abusing drugs. I don't know many kids who started their Xanax addiction because they saw commercials for Red Bull on TV. Addiction and drug abuse is nearly always the majority fault of the individual abuser. They are the ones taking the meds, the are the ones physician/pharmacy hopping to try and fill them and they are the ones who choose to reject recovery and live as an addict.
 
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